Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2572 posts, RR: 59 Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 18205 times:
Heathrow circa 1955
The photo appears to be "upside down" ie the Southern side of the airport where T4 is now is at the top of the photo.
You can see the runway that runs parallel to T3 in this 1967 photo (before T3 was extended) Even then the runway was being used for additional parking.
BoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1588 posts, RR: 18 Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 17827 times:
Quoting Amirs (Reply 10): Heathrow circa 1955 looks like a star of david.
Readytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 2597 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 17674 times:
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 17573 times:
Quoting Amirs (Reply 10): Heathrow circa 1955 looks like a star of david.
Voodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 1962 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 16888 times:
Next time you find yourself watching the film Dr. Strangelove, take a look at the office of the SAC/USAF base commander. He has the same 1955 (or slightly later) photo of LHR on his wall.
SPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2097 posts, RR: 10 Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 16286 times:
Quoting Voodoo (Reply 15): Next time you find yourself watching the film Dr. Strangelove
And IF you have never seen this movie, you need to. Funniest military spoof movie ever made, yet makes you wonder how we managed not to blow ourselves (the whole world) up back then.
Much like the movie Airplane, you have to be alert or half or the humor will blow right past you.
I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 16027 times:
Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 16): , yet makes you wonder how we managed not to blow ourselves (the whole world) up back then
yes, because it's soooo realistic.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Eaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 956 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 14747 times:
Wishful thinking I guess. If Heathrow were still like this it would certainly change the economics of sending a 250 person 787 there. It wouldn't be as slot restricted and you wouldn't need to use A380's due to slot restrictions.
Readytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 2597 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 14558 times:
Shuggie From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 120 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 14475 times:
Quoting Eaa3 (Reply 18): Wishful thinking I guess. If Heathrow were still like this it would certainly change the economics of sending a 250 person 787 there. It wouldn't be as slot restricted and you wouldn't need to use A380's due to slot restrictions.
Hotelmode From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 459 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13848 times:
Crossing runways would not help the slot problems at all. Crossing movements cause a great deal of trouble at the airfields that operate them. Thats why ORD is going for sets of multiple parallels facing the same way. 23 was only ever any use in strong crosswinds and it reduced the departure rate on whichever of the 27s was the departure runway massively.
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10696 posts, RR: 100 Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13848 times:
Quoting Eaa3 (Reply 18): If Heathrow were still like this it would certainly change the economics of sending a 250 person 787 there.
If Heathrow had been build with four parallel runways it would change the economics too... but that is just wishful thinking. But as Shuggie noted, the "Star of David" configuration doesn't allow for much terminal space. But it sure is neat! Makes you realize how rare air traffic was back in circa 1955.
Its going to be interesting to see how London meets its long term growth needs. For you either grow or you rot... Man I wish for that 3rd runway at LHR. It would be perfect to open it for the olympics! Correct me if I'm wrong, but the T2 rebuild is scheduled to be done by then. It would be amazing to have LHR able to meet the growth between now and then! (Notice I didn't say demand... that would take five or six runways at LHR!)
Eaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 956 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13552 times:
At SFO they usually use runway 1L and 1R for departures while runways 28R and 28L are being used for arrivals. There they can have 2 simultaneous departures and 2 simultaneous arrivals while at Heathrow I believe they often use one for arrivals and the other for departures.
SFOHORIZON From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 78 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12034 times:
Is there any update on a 3rd Runway. There's always rumors, tentative plans, studies, etc... But look at those maps, where the heck would you put that thing?
25 JetJeanes: The great LHR only has 2 main runways>>>?????
26 Viscount724: And LGW is the world's busiest 1-runway airport. The parallel taxiway is designed for use as a backup runway when the main runway is closed for maint
27 Ikramerica: Yes, isn't England a bit ridiculous in this respect? And despite the lack of runway capacity and the slots and all, LHR ground staff and security and
28 Glom: It's supposed to go on top of Sipson to the North. Don't count on it any time soon. Greeniness is the new religion in the Westminster Village. John R
29 Zvezda: The 3rd LHR runway would be located north of and parallel to the western portion of the existing runways with similar spacing between. Have a look at
30 Joost: Local residents, environmental groups, etc, etc are very powerful in England. The fact that LHR is located very close to densely populated areas does
31 BTCCMan: Actually, 23L does still exist, it is just not used any more. It was still in occasional use during high crosswinds in the mid-80s...
32 Planesavvy: The old runway 23 is definately closed for good. There are major taxiway changes being built around that area in preparation for Heathrow East termina
33 Zvezda: 2 main runways? 2 runways. Full stop. BAA should be buying every property that goes up for sale in the area bounded by the M4, M25, A312, and Bath Ro
34 HangarRat: Actually, this article is a bit of an eyeopener... http://www.slate.com/id/2173108/pagenum/all/
35 FlyDreamliner: This is where Europe differs from the US to some degree. In order to make room for the ORD expansion an nearly an entire town (Elk Grove Village, I b
36 Ncelhr: That picture in today's Sunday Times is ridiculous. Not only does it use a 1950 runway layout, but it oversizes LHR's size, and looks at noise West of
37 SFOHORIZON: I think this is a bit of an exaggeration. But I think this is an example that shows how alike Elk Grove and Dupage County is to Europe, or to any com
38 747fan: M25 is the road that runs north to south in the upper left-hand corner of the recent photo in reply 9. Its the major motorway you see when you take o
40 Boeing4ever: How so? One once looked like a Star of David. The other would have made LHR-DEN flights, errr, interesting in some tripped out philosophical perspect
41 Zvezda: Some people want to be near an airport. Why should they not be allowed to build if they own the land? Less and less each year. Also, it's not difficu
42 Trent900: Not to forget there is a heck of a lot more un-populated land out in the US. Our countryside here in the UK is under so much pressure from housing de
43 Hotelmode: Theres very little of it left, it has been unuseable for at least 6 years due to extra t4 stands and the touchdown end got dug up around 9 months ago
44 Glom: Can we get past this myth? Runway 23 has had its declaration rescinded. Check out theAIP. And you can see on Google Earth, the runway numbers have be
45 Ellehammer: I wonder how much space could be saved by moving all buildings underground? Getting off the plane and being whisked directly underground to a network
46 BosWashSprStar: Well . . . that may just be where Chicago differs from the rest of the western world to some degree. Mayor . . .*ahem* dictator *ahem* . . . Daley an
47 Readytotaxi: Just another thought, the "New" proposed runway north of LHR, you land there and then have to taxi to Terminal 4, crew would probably have time to do
48 Jacobin777: ...it actually depends on winds and time of day (as well as season) also.... having spotted at SFO no less than 50 times... I've seen many times wher
49 Glom: I would hope they'd plan the approaches better than that.
50 Aloges: Oh, sweet heavens, no! I admit that at first it can sound like a good idea to free up some space, but have you ever been to Penn Station in New York?
51 FlyCaledonian: It would be more than two new runways required! Add in terminals, cargo terminals, hotels, additional road links (M25/M4 is already a major bottlenec
52 OldAeroGuy: One of my favorite things in the movie is the low level flying with a B52 model but with the shadow of a B17 on the ground.
53 Positiverate: One of things I find so interesting about this photo is the number of PAA DC-8's vs. 707's. Were the DC-8's used primarily to serve LHR?
54 Viscount724: I think there was a mix of 707s and DC-8s, although the 707-320B/C was the only type used on the longest routes to/from LHR (e.g. nonstops to LAX/SFO
55 Boeing4ever: Indeed, some do. I'm referring to people who build near an airport, then sue because they've just discoverd noise. The airport was there first. Deal
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But it sure is neat! Makes you realize how rare air traffic was back in circa 1955.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the T2 rebuild is scheduled to be done by then. 
It would be amazing to have LHR able to meet the growth between now and then! (Notice I didn't say demand... that would take five or six runways at LHR!)
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