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User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Posted (6 years 10 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Can anyone help me in what the major points of the US-Brazil bilateral aviation agreement are, and where I can find the particulars?

I know it is fairly restrictive, but I was curious what the exact structure was, how many frequencies, and how it is decided who can fly where?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32581 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

104 weekly flights for each country's carriers, which are currently used as follows:

AA: 53x
CO: 14x
DL: 21x
UA: 14x

JJ: 35x

There are also exemptions beyond the bilateral. AA and DL both have exemptions that allow them to operate additional flights during peak periods, but they have to re-apply every season for them. This year, AA has five additional frequencies, and DL has four. There are actually two US-carrier frequencies that are unused, believe it or not.



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User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2015 times:

many thanks! do you know if there have been any recent talks on a concluding an open skies agreement? Is there cargo open skies between Brazil and the US?


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User currently offlineGreenair727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 555 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

Does the bilateral also stipulate which cities in each country can be served?

User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5602 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 2 days ago) and read 1945 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Thread starter):
Can anyone help me in what the major points of the US-Brazil bilateral aviation agreement are, and where I can find the particulars?

The following url is the US State Depts "Treaties in Force" database which may have what you are looking for:
http://www.state.gov/s/l/treaty/treaties/2007/index.htm

Gemuser



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User currently offlineAF086 From France, joined Jan 2007, 1059 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Quoting Greenair727 (Reply 3):
Does the bilateral also stipulate which cities in each country can be served?

Yes. Airlines from the US can serve: MAO, BSB, GIG, GRU, REC, POA, BEL, CNF and SSA and from these cities to Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina and Chile.

They can also codeshare to up to 30 destinations in Brazil, 14 of which were alredy selected by the american airlines: CGR, CGB, CWB, FLN, FOR, IGU, GYN, JPA, JOI, MCZ, NAT, RAO, SLZ and VIX.

The brazilian airlines can serve: JFK, ATL, MIA, ORD, DTW, IAD, IAH, MCO, LAX, SFO, BOS, SJU and from these cities the flight can go on to destinations in Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Canada, Taiwan, Macau, ICN, PEK and BKK. Also from LAX to one or two destinations in Japan.

They can also codeshare to up to 30 destinations in the US, 26 of which were selected: DEN, LAS, SAN, SEA, HNL, CLE, PDX, PHX, TUS, MSY, MSP, DFW, PHL, CVG, TPA, PIT, STL, SLC, RDU, BNA, AUS, SJC, TUS, JAX, CMH and IND.

[Edited 2007-09-17 16:35:00]


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User currently onlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11409 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1797 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
104 weekly flights for each country's carriers, which are currently used as follows:

In fact it's 105 weekly frequencies Mark, not 104.

http://www.anac.gov.br/arquivos/pdf/...rdosBilaterais/E/EstadosUnidos.pdf

And i believe AA holds only 52 weekly flights not 53:

GIG-MIA 7
GRU-MIA 26
GIG-GRU-JFK 7
GRU-DFW 12

And considering Brazilian side, Ocean Air holds 7 LAX and Varig 13 MIA, 10 JFK plus 4 LAX frequencies.


Felipe



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