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Facts About AC You May Not Know.  
User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2379 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11686 times:

OK. I'm hoping this topic is new so here it goes,

AC has quite a few firsts or tied for firsts that many travellers may not know about:

-First to order Combi version of 747.
-One of first to install TECAS - Collision Avoidance System
-Launch customer (along side Ethiopian) of 767 ER verision
-First North American Airline to order A320 and A319.

That's all I can think about right now...


The engine is the heart of an airplane, but the pilot is its soul.
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User currently offline744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11664 times:

First tho install a personal entertainment system on all it's fleet (short haul and long haul).
First to operate 777-300 ER (77W)


User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11594 times:

Quoting 744 (Reply 1):
First to operate 777-300 ER (77W)

Sorry, AF started 77W flights three years ago.

[Edited 2007-09-17 18:47:12]


The engine is the heart of an airplane, but the pilot is its soul.
User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1920 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11578 times:

Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
-First North American Airline to order A320 and A319.

Not quite right.
Pan Am ordered 16 A320 on 30.05.85. These orders were later taken over by Braniff but 0n 04.01.89, after Air Canada on 26.09.88 (34 A320) and Canadian on 30.09.88 (17 A320)

[Edited 2007-09-17 18:46:06]

User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11438 times:

Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
One of first to install TECAS - Collision Avoidance System

First and only AFAIK.

I know alot of other airlines are installing TCAS though.  Wink


User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4638 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11430 times:

This list is actually quite impressive. Of course this won't stop Canadians bitching about AC, even if they've never flown with them.

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/media/facts/innovations.html

One interesting fact is that AC was the first airline in the world to go totally non-smoking on all aircraft.

Kris



Word
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11411 times:

First to use the 767 as a glider Wink

User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3075 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11360 times:
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here's a few more:

1st airline to order jet cargo aircraft (Dc-8-55 Jet Trader)
1st airline to fly the atlantic non-stop in scheduled landplane service (Lancaster conversions)
and by proxy:
1st airine to operate a supersonic airliner (look this up, and it was a DC8-40) via CP
1st airline in North America to order jet aircraft, again CP (Comet... never successfully delivered)



Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11246 times:

Pioneered the "Black Box".


Above and Beyond
User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11116 times:

First airline to call themselves Air Canada


There isnt really a dark side to the moon, as a matter of fact its all dark!
User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11041 times:

First North American airline to fly turboprops - Viscount, 1954.

User currently offlineLH648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10949 times:

Quoting NEMA (Reply 9):
First airline to call themselves Air Canada

First Canadian airline to enter StarAlliance  Smile



I hate Lufthansa
User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10825 times:

First and if I'm not mistaken only airline to put PTVs on a CRJ.... almost as if Air Canada wants people to like CRJs


"Let the world change you, and you can change the world"
User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10756 times:

First airline to offer telephones at arms reach in all A/C.



AF340


User currently offlineDiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10736 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 6):
First to use the 767 as a glider

Ah, yes - something about saving fuel on flights to Gimli, right?

Where is Gimli, anyway?


User currently offlineBakersdozen From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10671 times:

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 14):
Where is Gimli, anyway?

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en...6048,40.869141&z=5&iwloc=addr&om=1

Middle of Manitoba, flight was in between Edmonton and Montreal. Lots of info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider. It gives me shivers reading the article and thinking about what it must have been like flying that long and landing with no engines.

" As they grew nearer it became apparent that they were too high, and Pearson executed a maneuver known as a "forward slip" to increase their drag and reduce their altitude. This gave passengers the sensation of plummeting sideways toward the ground. As Pearson executed the slip, the aircraft was flying over a golf course, and one passenger reportedly said, "Christ. I can almost see what clubs they're using".[3] A slip is commonly used with gliders and light aircraft, either to lose height quickly or to execute a cross-wind landing. As soon as the wheels touched the runway, Pearson "stood on the brakes", blowing out several of the aircraft's tires. The unlocked nose wheel collapsed and was forced back into the housing causing the nose section to scrape along the ground. The aircraft came to rest only a few hundred feet from the people gathered at the end of the runway for Family Day."

[Edited 2007-09-17 23:38:49]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10651 times:

Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
-First to order Combi version of 747.

They were also the launch customer and first operator of the DC-8-50F Combi.

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 14):
Quoting Someone83 (Reply 6):
First to use the 767 as a glider

Ah, yes - something about saving fuel on flights to Gimli, right?

Where is Gimli, anyway?

About 60 miles north of YWG.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10579 times:

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 10):
First North American airline to fly turboprops - Viscount, 1954.

They took delivery of their first Viscount (CF-TGI, the 40th Viscount built) in December 1954 but didn't put the type into regular scheuled service April 18, 1955, by which time 6 had been delivered. Some history re their first Viscount, courtesy of www.vickersviscount.net.

13 October 1954
First flight from Weybridge, Surrey, England.

8 December 1954
Delivered to TCA - Trans-Canada Air Lines with fleet number '601' by G R 'Jock' Bryce with George Edwards on board.

First aircraft for TCA - Trans Canada Air Lines and the first delivery to a North American operator. Routed via Prestwick, Scotland, Keflavik, Bluey West, Goose Bay, Montreal - Dorval to Winnipeg, Canada.

23 February 1955
Operated a pre-inaugral service from Toronto, Canada to Idlewild, New York, USA carrying members of the press in 99 minutes compared to the 120 minutes previously taken by the Canadair DC-4M.

March 1955
Demonstrated to US operators at Idlewild, New York, USA by flying to Montreal and Toronto, Canada.

18 April 1955
Operated the first turbine powered scheduled service in North America from Toronto, Canada to New York, USA with 40 passengers on board, departing at 09:00.


Photo of the first TCA/AC Viscount, and first turbine-powered aircraft in scheduled service in North America:


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Photo © Mel Lawrence



User currently offlineReidYYZ From Kyrgyzstan, joined Sep 2005, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10420 times:

First to eliminate a huge debt, TWICE. And get a different group each time to pay it.

User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9276 times:

Early "HUB" system: YQL for Alberta...in 1939


AC.WA.CP.DL.RW.CO.WG.WJ.WN.KI.FL.SK.ACL.UA.US.F9
User currently offlineDgehfx From Canada, joined May 2001, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9276 times:

Were they also the first airline with a computer reservation system?

User currently offlineBWI757 From Israel, joined Dec 2004, 429 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9202 times:

First airline to use toothpaste as inspiration for new livery


I live in the US but my heart is in Jerusalem!
User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8993 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 6):

That was good!


User currently offlineAcey From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 1051 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8515 times:

Quoting BWI757 (Reply 21):
First airline to use toothpaste as inspiration for new livery

It's one of the nicest liveries out there; at least it's refreshing from the same old boring all white schemes. You guys all sound pathetic when you keep making these redundant toothpaste references. They're not, and never were, funny.



If a man hasn't discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
User currently offlineCslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8427 times:

The airline and a predicessor were owned as subsidiaries of railway companies. CP was owned by Candian Pacific, and AC was owned by the Canadian National Railway.


--cslusarc from YWG
25 Boeingluvr : From what I understood, the process is still underway... And will be a timely one...
26 Ba777-236 : Well if that's not true, they're still the first airline in North America to operate the A340-300, A340-500, 777-300ER and 777-200LR. Not bad eh?
27 TreeHillRavens : Not really. EK, SQ and CX are the first to install PTV on all it's fleet (short and long-haul flights).
28 Jetdeltamsy : Look it up for us. I can't find anything. Link please.
29 Post contains images Ag92 : {/quote} Regards Ag92 Edit 1: HTML error, tried to correct but failed Edit 2: Still trying [Edited 2007-09-18 11:32:34][Edited 2007-09-18 11:37:05]
30 AirCanada014 : Air Canada will be the first airline in North America to install EFB 3 ( Electronic Flight Bag 3 ) on their B777s and along with B787s. After AC all a
31 LX64A332 : pardon me, but what is an electronic flight bag ??
32 Post contains links BeechNut : Here's one of may links I dug up describing this flight. Although CP never operated it as a "supersonic" aircraft; the event happened during a Dougla
33 Post contains links Wolflair : A piece of software installed in the cockpit. It contains electronic versions of the approach charts plus some other "goodies" and useful documents.
34 LongHauler : At Air Canada it also contains the MEL, Dangerous Goods Manuals, and takeoff performance and fuel drip software. The move to the EFB was the main thr
35 Brilondon : I agree. I use toothpaste that is white so I really don't get why the AC livery is referred to as "toothpaste". I think it looks darn good on an airp
36 LongHauler : I think they are referring to the (now tired) comparison of the new colours to pale blue toothpaste. But, it IS a paint scheme best seen in person. Wh
37 SEPilot : Isn't TCAS now required on all airliners flying in US airspace?
38 Amazonphil : Just so nobody thinks(that don't know airliner specs) a DC-8 normally does Mach 1, the aircraft in this case was in a slight dive for some reason and
39 LASOctoberB6 : i thought that it was AA with SABRE...no?
40 Birdbrainz : LMAO! Very cleaver. Actually, there are probably a lot of airlines that could qualify for that. Alitalia kinda looks like one version of Aquafresh.
41 Futurecaptain : I can't say for sure one way or the other. The US has alot of older planes flying still. I was referring to mention of TECAS and the extra E in there
42 Post contains links AirCanada014 : " target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...t_bag Here's another link from Boeing site too. http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q1/06
43 FURUREFA : LMAO
44 Acey : Shame another Canadian airline was the first to use the 330 as a glider, too. And the only thus far...certainly a fact every aerogeek should know.
45 FraT : There's a long article in the new Air Transport World about AC's 70th anniversary. Lot's of interesting details.
46 VonRichtofen : Should be completed next year. Nice try to put a negative spin on it though.
47 Boeingluvr : Well you can try and make me sound like that... But I was just stating that as the said it was installed on all of their fleet. I have been told almo
48 Cslusarc : Isn't AC the one of only two airlined in the world to fly all four aircraft types mentioned? The other is EK.
49 Acey : Yeah...one would instantly think that it would not be economical to do so and that is indeed the case for AC; the 343 and 345 are leaving shortly.
50 Boeingluvr : How bout all their A333's?
51 Acey : They're staying. XM for the A333's will be done by next year. Maybe all of them will be replaced by the 787, I'm not sure...
52 BeechNut : My understanding is that the A333s will eventually leave in favour of the 787, however they will be the last of the Airbus widebodies to go. They are
53 AirCanada014 : Don't forget AC still have B767-200ER and B767-300ER
54 Drgmobile : First and if I'm not mistaken only airline to put PTVs on a CRJ.... almost as if Air Canada wants people to like CRJs Have you ever flown on the plane
55 Post contains images YULYMX : First airlines in north america to operate the B777W and B772LR First either B741 or B742 combi in north america First to get head office in smaller h
56 Post contains images OzarkD9S : Perhaps most importantly, AC was the first airline in the history of commercial aviation to fly Yours Truly LGA-YUL-YQB-YUL-ORD in 1976!
57 Viscount724 : Actually there were no factory-built 741 combis. Many 741s were of course later converted to freighters. The first combi off the line was a 742 and A
58 Ayqzbr : I flew the CRJ-705 twice recently and the extra legroom plus PTVs made a very positive impression - I think it is better than the ERJs, and miles ahea
59 BeechNut : I believe they also operated an ex-QANTAS 747-238 combi. Beech
60 Robsawatsky : First publicly-traded company to have its head office location enforced by legislation.
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