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EK 77W Stuck In The Grass At GLA  
User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1983 posts, RR: 11
Posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 15192 times:

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More than 200 passengers have been delayed at Glasgow Airport after their aircraft became stuck while preparing to take off.

The Emirates Airline flight to Dubai was heading towards the runway at about 1420 BST when it rolled on to grass as it turned a corner.

The 237 passengers were taken off the aircraft to allow workers to try and return it to the tarmac.

An airport spokesman said no other flights had been affected.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7001366.stm

Gaz


Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
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User currently offlineLH121GLA From Germany, joined May 2004, 458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14882 times:

What a pain in the grass ....  laughing 

User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14839 times:

Quoting LH121GLA (Reply 1):
What a pain in the grass ....

I see what you did there...  yes 


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14708 times:

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 2):
I see what you did there...

She couldn't hold it any longer.....  butthead   embarrassed   ashamed   yuck   covereyes 



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14625 times:

Joking apart, guys, not going to be easy for the crew to explain this when they get back to DXB.

"Which one of you was looking at the main gear camera?" is one the questions they'll probably be asked.


User currently offlineExpress1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14613 times:

I bet the pilots had that sinking feeling of being a stick in the mud!!!!  duck 

User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14110 times:

Thats what happens when airlines send the worlds 2nd longest aircraft to a small regional airport, which doesn't really have facilities (aprons & taxiways) to handle aircrafts of this size!

I think BHX has experienced similar problems on one two occasions when they have sent 777-300's there!


User currently offlineBy188b From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 13564 times:

some excellent pics here:

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User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 13459 times:

Quoting By188b (Reply 7):
some excellent pics here:

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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13542 posts, RR: 100
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 13360 times:
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Quoting LH121GLA (Reply 1):
What a pain in the grass ....

A little too early applying power in those GE-90's?  Wink  duck 

This will muck up the EK flight system... Good thing they have so many 77W's.  Wink

Thought, this will happen with an A388. That would be a challenge to tow out of the grass... Did they de-fuel this plane? I have photos of a United 747 stuck in the mud so deep that it had to be completely offloaded before being pulled out. Ugh.  yuck 

Note: I'm a fan of the A380 for the right missions. But this is something that will have to be considered.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineMX77W From Mexico, joined Apr 2007, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12949 times:

Ok, Stupid Question, but would it have been fiesable for the plane to just power out of the ditch??? I mean, compleately unloaded of course, but with the powerful GE90's, I think it could easily get out of anything, obviously I do not know the position the aircraft was in, or if it had enough taxiway in front of it to attempt a power-out or if there was potential damage to the landing gear if that was attemped... but just a thought! Big grin Let's just hope she gets back into service ASAP, I hate seeing any 77W getting into trouble...

MX 77W



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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3707 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12866 times:
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Quoting MX77W (Reply 10):
Ok, Stupid Question, but would it have been fiesable for the plane to just power out of the ditch??? I mean, compleately unloaded of course, but with the powerful GE90's, I think it could easily get out of anything, obviously I do not know the position the aircraft was in, or if it had enough taxiway in front of it to attempt a power-out or if there was potential damage to the landing gear if that was attemped... but just a thought! Let's just hope she gets back into service ASAP, I hate seeing any 77W getting into trouble...

In theory yes, but in reality no. When you throttle those engines up in the grass there is a good chance that they will suck up some large chunks of sod. Last thing that they want is to FOD out an engine.



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User currently offlineMX77W From Mexico, joined Apr 2007, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11814 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 11):
In theory yes, but in reality no. When you throttle those engines up in the grass there is a good chance that they will suck up some large chunks of sod. Last thing that they want is to FOD out an engine.

 checkmark  True, very true, I totally forgot about the all-too-important FOD...

Thanks for the input!

MX 77W



When Will MX Fly to Europe??? I guess '09 is the year!!!
User currently offlineBAW076 From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2006, 750 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11366 times:

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 9):
This will muck up the EK flight system... Good thing they have so many 77W's

I don't see how it will have much effect on the EK flight system, as you rightly stated, they do have a lot of 77W's.



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User currently offlineQslinger From India, joined Apr 2006, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11138 times:

what happens to the pilots in these situation? Its obviously pilot error, so will they be sent back to training or will they have a black mark on their report card?


Raj Koona
User currently offlinePlatinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10829 times:

Ok everybody... PUSH!!!  scared 


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User currently offlineSB From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10800 times:

This ... incident ... completely messed up operations for other airlines as well, tower had to backtrack aircraft full length for departure, which caused noticeable delays.

S.



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User currently offlineAlitis From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10723 times:

Quoting MX77W (Reply 10):
Ok, Stupid Question, but would it have been fiesable for the plane to just power out of the ditch??? I mean, compleately unloaded of course, but with the powerful GE90's, I think it could easily get out of anything

Only if Petroni was at the controls..... Smile


User currently offlineStickers From South Africa, joined Sep 2007, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10486 times:

Quoting LH121GLA (Reply 1):
What a pain in the grass

 laughing 

Bummer - But i guess these things happen from time to time. At least its just a minor incident with no casualties.


User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1983 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10094 times:

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 6):
Thats what happens when airlines send the worlds 2nd longest aircraft to a small regional airport, which doesn't really have facilities (aprons & taxiways) to handle aircrafts of this size!

1 Such incident since the upgrade to 77W was introduced (Dec 15th 2005 i think?) isn't that bad. Also, I wouldn't call an airport with flights to Newark, Philadelphia, Boston, Orlando, Las Vegas, Cancun, Puerto Plata, Toronto, Hamilton, Vancouver, Calgary, Halifax, Ottawa, Dubai and we did have Lahore/Karachi/Islamabad a regional airport. Fair enough lots of seasonal demand however.

Gaz

[Edited 2007-09-19 08:13:54]


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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9947 times:

Quoting LH121GLA (Reply 1):
What a pain in the grass ..

 bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineWINGSOFMAN72 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5821 times:

Quoting MX77W (Reply 10):
Ok, Stupid Question, but would it have been fiesable for the plane to just power out of the ditch??? I mean, compleately unloaded of course, but with the powerful GE90's, I think it could easily get out of anything, obviously I do not know the position the aircraft was in, or if it had enough taxiway in front of it to attempt a power-out or if there was potential damage to the landing gear if that was attemped... but just a thought! Let's just hope she gets back into service ASAP, I hate seeing any 77W getting into trouble

This could work, if only Joe Patroni can get there in time to drive it!!!


User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5767 times:

Quoting Alitis (Reply 17):
Quoting MX77W (Reply 10):
Ok, Stupid Question, but would it have been fiesable for the plane to just power out of the ditch??? I mean, compleately unloaded of course, but with the powerful GE90's, I think it could easily get out of anything

If you want to see something like that watch the last scene in Airport 1970 when they try to power out the 707 Big grin  Big grin

But seriously, those pilots are going to get slammed by the chief pilot when they get back to their base
 Sad  Sad



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User currently offline808TWA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 701 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5552 times:

Hasn't this happened a few times in the past at EGPF? I seem to remember a Russian type aircraft being stuck in the grass not too long ago. I also believe it was in a similar location. I also remember it took quite a while to extricate the beast due to different jacks being required.

Personally, I say ban the rain from falling in Glasgow, this would solve the soft grass (silly sod)  Smile

-Alan



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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5182 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5399 times:

Quoting Qslinger (Reply 14):
what happens to the pilots in these situation? Its obviously pilot error, so will they be sent back to training or will they have a black mark on their report card?

Not the pilots fault, ATC was to blame, according to a post on Taxiway Alpha

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 19):
1 Such incident since the upgrade to 77W was introduced (Dec 15th 2005 i think?) isn't that bad. Also, I wouldn't call an airport with flights to Newark, Philadelphia, Boston, Orlando, Las Vegas, Cancun, Puerto Plata, Toronto, Hamilton, Vancouver, Calgary, Halifax, Ottawa, Dubai and we did have Lahore/Karachi/Islamabad a regional airport. Fair enough lots of seasonal demand however.

Gaz

Its scotlands secondary airport - if that doesnt qualify as regional I dont know what does  Silly



That'll teach you
25 Post contains images RobK : Thanks for the answer there AirTran737, I was thinking the exact same solution as MX77W. I kind of imagined that the grass would probably end up in q
26 6YJJK : Perhaps ATC shouldn't have asked them to take that route, but it wasn't ATC who drove the thing off the side. It's still the captain's responsibility
27 FlyLKU : One thing every pilot learns is that even if ATC could be "blamed" you are still the final authority and in the end every aspect of the flight is you
28 Post contains images Can258 : Totally agree with you. It's captain's decision and responsibility. I don't think ATC is the only one to blame !
29 ULMFlyer : That's what the word "unable" is for. PIC is called that for a reason.
30 SA006 : Yep. At least all of EK's do.
31 Post contains images Gkirk : Aye, you wouldn't think they'd been operating the 77W to GLA for the last 2 years or so Only due to BAA forcing pax to fly through EDI
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