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Upside Down MD-11's?!?!  
User currently offlineTrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 891 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1920 times:

I was looking through some of the accident pictures and even though it happened awhile ago, what in the world did the MD-11 pilots do to get their jets upside down sitting on the ground? I saw the Madarnian (not sure if I spelled it right) and the FedEx MD-11 both upside down after the crash. I never looked into the details of these accidents but I would think if the aircraft flipped to land like it did howcome they did not get destroyed to as where it wouldnt even look like a plane. Those two jets looked fairly intact. Was this another case of major pilot error? kinda makes me upset to see new aircraft like that destroyed. If I remember correctly most lives were saved?
thanks for the help guys.

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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1852 times:

Well, the Mandarin (properly spelled) MD-11 was B-150. It flew into a... what's the word for hurricane? Oh yeah, typhoon. They landed in typhoon conditions.

The FedEx, I am not quite sure about. Something makes me want to say that the cargo shifted and threw the plane off balance. But I am not sure about that.

R


User currently offlineDelta777-XXX From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1017 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1828 times:

I thought that it landed hard and bounced and then hit down on the wing. The wing breaks off and the plane rolls on that side. Isn't that how it happend? That is very wierd to me!

User currently offlineAerotech From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 259 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Yes, on the FedEx one, they were making an approach at night into ERW, came down a little hard on the glideslope, hit hard, bounced, and when they came back down, they hit left wing low, sort of tore it off, the right wing still provided lift, therefore rolling the aircraft over on it's left side, where it proceeded to skid upside down to a halt.

User currently offlineBH346 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3265 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1798 times:


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User currently offlineDirkSavage From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1792 times:

The FedEx accident did happen as Aerotech stated. The crew contended that it was a bad CAT IIIb landing (i.e. the aircraft lands itself). I do not know if this was ever proven or not. The MD-11 did(does?) has a history of bad CAT IIIb landings, but this was mostly tail strikes (Garuda, a couple of times that I know about).

User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2541 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

The Mandarin Airline crash was the Fault of the pilot and weather


User currently offlineSenliture From Australia, joined May 2000, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

Hi Airnewzealand,
I had posted a message here saying that the pilot was not the main cause of the crashing, the main cause is the computer program error of the MD-11.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/336933/

Senliture


User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2541 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

Thanks for that info!!!

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