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DC8pax Airline In 2001!  
User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1586 times:

Hello everybody,I just wanted to tell everyone about an upcoming article I wrote for Airliners (April 2001).It is about our passenger DC-8s. I am an airline pilot for Air Transport International. We fly pax/combi DC-8-62s and cargo DC-8-63/71s! I have lots of video from a recent trip, flying a pax DC-8 from California to Honolulu to Johnston Atoll and Kwajalein Is, Marshall Is in December 2000. We have no plans to retire our DC-8s. They come from many airlines:JAL,Braniff,SAS,UTA,Alitalia and United.
Thanks Mark B.
e-mail:DC8paxFLYR@msn.com

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User currently offlineThe Ticketor From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 434 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1396 times:

Welcome to Airliners.net!
What's the capacity/config of your DC-8-62s?


User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2005 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1373 times:

Wow! I certainly look forward to your article! I didn't know that ATI flew -CF models - I thought all ATI's DC-8s were full freighters. I'd love to see another passenger DC-8; this fine aircraft holds a special place in my heart as it is the type on which I had my first flight.


The aeroplane has unveiled for us the true face of the earth. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery
User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

The configuration of our DC-8-62 combis is currently 32 passenger seats in the rear portion of the aircraft. With 10 pallet positions up front.

The configurations vary upon demand. We have had as many as 76 seats with 3 pallet positions.


User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

We fly daily to Europe, the Middle East, Asia, Pacific, Central America, and the Caribbean from the U.S.

User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

I was sitting in the ATI crew room in KTOL and was told that the only planes left are the 71 series planes. The 60's were taken off line.

How many pilots did you guys just lose?

How many 70's do you have? 6 if I remeber.

Anyhow....What's the prognosis for ATI now. Does managment still plan to bring 727's online paying 25 bucks an hour?

What's the latest info?

I have a few buddies working for you...Barry Weinzirl, and Tim Witriche



User currently offlineSouthflite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

As far as I tell, the only photo we have of one of those -62CFs:
Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Eddy Gual - Aviation Photography Of Miami


In another operator's c/s, which seems to have been retained for ATI (or was it the other way around?).
This looks like the same aircraft (N41CX), but one cannot be 100% sure:
Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Carlos Borda




User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1243 times:

ATI just parked 7 DC-8-63s.Most will not return.ATI furloughed about 48 F/Os and 25 PFEs due to BAX cutting the DC-8 routes in half in TOL. No pax -62s were effected, and they will keep some DC-8-63s for international adhoc.
The pictures shown are N41CX in ICX colors, which was acquired by ATI.


User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1197 times:

What's going on with the 727 program?

User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

The 727 program is moving forward. They could be delivered in Aug/Sep 2001.

User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1176 times:

Will the furloughed pilots be recalled into the 727's?

Can you explain the current pay scale proposal on the 727. I have bits and pieces of info from here and there. I heard that initial FO pay will be in the neighborhood of $25 per hour.

As I understand the DC8 pilots will have to take a pay cut to move into the 727's?

Does BAX still have plans to sell the airline?

If you sould give me any info you have instead of small niblets it would be appreciated.

Thanks

JET


User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1172 times:

One more question....Does BAX plan to do away with subcontractors all together?

JET


User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1158 times:

I will get back on the pilot contract stuff later

User currently offlineBRN2FLY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1133 times:

That is great!!!!

User currently onlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1116 times:

I am looking forward to your report in Airliners! As a DC-8 lover, I was very exited when I read this subjectline...
but I technically don't consider ATI's operation a REAL passenger operation. I believe your only 'passengers' are military and CIA staff. There are other DC-8s around with seats installed, like the French Air Force ones and a few private ones. But still I consider the final true passenger flights of the DC-8 happened in the mid 90s, when Marshall Air, Rich Air and Advance (Canada) ceased ops.
Any comment? Are there any ATI flights where a normal fare paying passenger (like me) can get on? I'd be the first in line !



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1104 times:

ATI is a supplemental carrier, just like World, Emery, Arrow, or past airlines like RICH International or Capitol or MGM Grand.
ATI is a full service airline. It is true that most of our customers are military personal or their dependents or contractors of the goverment. We fly the same routes all over the world with a published route structure and timetable for AMC. You, as a civilian cannot fly on the French DC-8-72s. You can fly on an ATI DC-8. Get a group together and fly!!!! It wont be cheap though.


User currently offlineBRN2FLY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1085 times:

The DC-8-62 combis can be seen several times a month for regular maintenance checks at Sacramento,CA Mather Field.

User currently offlineBRN2FLY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1062 times:

GSO is one place they go for maint.

User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1038 times:

ATI pax DC-8s can be found late at night at the international terminal at BWI!!!!! They fly nonstop to Greenland, Germany, Azores and New Jersy! AMC gate. Pax board by mobil lounge, pilots by jet bridge.

User currently offlineBRN2FLY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1015 times:

DC-8-62 pax combis can be seen at Norfolk,NAS

User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1006 times:

DC8paxFLYR,
since you in your initial post here stated that you fly ex SAS-machines, could you please supply me with its/their full data, as I'm REALLY interested to know...

- caravelle



Trains and boats and planes....
User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 997 times:

I just flew both SAS birds back-to-back!!!! I also took all my video from these aircraft, some of it with both pax DC-8s next to each other in Honolulu DEC 2000. I flew one,N799AL ex SAS OY-KTE sn45922/335 from PHNL-PJON-PHNL and the next day N41CX exSAS
SE-DBI sn46129/523 PHNL-PKWA-PHNL.


User currently offlineBRN2FLY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 972 times:

One pax DC-8 flew in Aug from Las Vegas to Turkey.

User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 955 times:

DC-8s for ATI (pax) can be seen in PHNL everyday!!!

User currently offlineDC8paxFLYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 940 times:

DC-8-62 pax are at KSUU alot.

25 LOTVIRTUAL : Which airport in NJ are you guys flying into? Thanks for the info.
26 DC8paxFLYR : Attention everyone: The article on the pax DC8s will be in AIRWAYS April 2001!!!!!
27 AKelley728 : Yes, I would also like to know where in NJ we can find these birds! Also, what would be the cost (per person) of getting a group together to fly a cha
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