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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12411 posts, RR: 37
Posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7287 times:

Good evening to you all!

Well, here's another bout of Irish aviation, to avoid the danger of withdrawal symtoms!

More routes (FR), more problems (US Immigration), more protests (Shannon) and sod all in the way government action (so what's new!). Well, what do we have to look forward to ...

The government has imposed a deadline for the acceptance of a new routes package for SNN, so hopefully something will happen there. I know, from my own involvement with the JER-LHR route, that there is a lot of concern about the loss of the connection - and connectivity, but I hope that if they can get either CDG or AMS, it will be seen for what it is - even better than LHR.

Thinking over the whole situation today, independently of the new thread, it just beggars belief how badly this was handled at govt level. Sure, we can look at it from the perspective of cold hearted economists, but they had kept a share with the objective of protecting routes and they fluffed things completely; it's not hard to appreciate the anger in the west and even if - as I genuinely hope - they do get a link to a major hub, there will still be a lot of residual anger. Going forward, lessons need to be learned. It's more than just Aer Lingus; it's the whole of air transport policy - develop an interest, particularly as we may be heading into an economic downturn - see aviation as a vital contributor to growth, growth which can - through interest policies - be maximised.

October looks like being a very interesting month for airliner orders, with BA, TG and EK on course for orders which could, together top $40 BILLION. Great, so what does this have to do with Irish aviation. Well, the A350 is in with a good shout at TG and EK, possibly BA too; I know EI has already chosen it and while it is a highly respected carrier internationally, it does no harm to have big guns backing the A350 too.

Things have been a bit quiet on the EI/FR front recently, but I guess that they will remain so until the FR appeal comes to the ECJ. Plenty of time for both sides to plan their next moves, but I think FR has the more wriggle room ... Incidentally, Michael Cawley was interviewed recently (today, I think) and he said it was most unlikely that FR would set up a long haul operation (which was never in doubt anyway - it's MO'L's intentions we're interested in.)

So, here we go again folks; line up, yellow priority passes to the front! We're walking, we're walking ...

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7281 times:

Another good intro Kaitak .

Just saw the mistaken runway report on RTE news. I wonder if they will change the lights on the hotel building !!! Could have been a very bad situation . For anyones that interested the movie ''The Terminal'' is on RTE1 now !!!


User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7271 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
it just beggars belief how badly this was handled at govt level.

On that note, I've always wondered would it be possible to have a junior minister at the Dept. of Transport with special responsibility for Aviation and Aviation policy. It's such a crucial and controversial section of the transport portfolio, and with all the delays and problems encountered with the various infrastructure, I just feel that it mighten't be a bad idea. It would be interesting to hear others opinion on the idea.


User currently offlineEXTspotter From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7269 times:

The terminal is such rubbish, like UA would have crew who don't want to kill you with their dagger eyes.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7260 times:

Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 3):
The terminal is such rubbish, like UA would have crew who don't want to kill you with their dagger eyes.
LOL...I actually like UA !! Never had a problem with them . Where was the movie made??? Dont recognise the building??

[Edited 2007-09-19 22:52:56]

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7237 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Well, the A350 is in with a good shout at TG and EK, possibly BA too; I know EI has already chosen it and while it is a highly respected carrier internationally, it does no harm to have big guns backing the A350 too.

I'm hoping for some big A350 orders! I really hope BA order it but I think the 787 is more likely especially if the 787-10 is included.

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Michael Cawley was interviewed recently (today, I think) and he said it was most unlikely that FR would set up a long haul operation (which was never in doubt anyway - it's MO'L's intentions we're interested in.)

Aer Lingus has just enough time to sort out fleet, product and keep their fares as competitive as possible before MyWay starts however when you dont know what form your competitor is going to take, its hard to compete. All Aer Lingus and other airlines can do is continue there long term plans. Just because FR worked out with MO'L doesn't mean MyWay will.

I just want EI to sort out that product, they are getting there just slowly!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7229 times:

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 5):
I'm hoping for some big A350 orders! I really hope BA order it but I think the 787 is more likely especially if the 787-10 is included.

I would like to see A350 and A380 orders!! Fingers crossed. The BA livery would look class on an A380 . Not to mention the innovations they could have inside it and features. The black and white picture frames that they have on the bulk heads would look really nice with some British themes inside.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12411 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7224 times:

Quoting Rineanna (Reply 2):
On that note, I've always wondered would it be possible to have a junior minister at the Dept. of Transport with special responsibility for Aviation and Aviation policy. It's such a crucial and controversial section of the transport portfolio, and with all the delays and problems encountered with the various infrastructure, I just feel that it mighten't be a bad idea. It would be interesting to hear others opinion on the idea.

I think that would be a very good idea. The odd thing is that one of the arguments against this is that aviation needs to be the responsibility of a minister at the cabinet table. I agree that there should be a minister with responsibility for managing day to day aviation issues - an "enforcer" if you wish. However, down through the years, if you look at the set up of govt departments over the last 20-25 years, it has almost never been in the same place twice (well, consecutively). Yes, there was a Department of Transport under Brennan, Geoghegan-Quinn and Cowen, then it became Public Enterprise under Mary O'Rourke, now it's back to transport again, but really, the make-up of any department is far LESS important than the interest and the drive of those charged with responsibility for it. If the minister is good and dedicated, you can give him any title you want, "Minister for Silly Walks with special responsibility for aviation" and it will work.

The role of the civil service is of crucial importance, but really, the attitude and drive at govt level is much moreso. Like an army, if the generals don't have the vision or direction, you can't expect the troops to be motivated; that's what we face. The interest simply isn't there at govt level and the only way to address this is to focus on it. Sure, there may be an element of obstructionism at civil service level, but that can be addressed with the appropriate will.

To borrow another quote from the wonderful Yes Minister, it's often a battle between the political will and the administrative won't. Unfortunately, in Ireland, it's a combination of the administrative won't and the political "can't be bothered".


User currently offlineEXTspotter From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7224 times:

I thought it was meant to be set in O'hare, american people think it sounds exotic and foreign because it has a piece of punctuation they've never seen before.

*putting up flaming shield*



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7215 times:

Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 8):
I thought it was meant to be set in O'hare, american people think it sounds exotic and foreign because it has a piece of punctuation they've never seen before.

*putting up flaming shield*

LOL...your right though it is crap. 25 mins and I switched back to Sky News lol....


User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7203 times:

Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 8):
I thought it was meant to be set in O'hare,

It's meant to be JFK, I think. The terminal was constructed in a Hangar at Palmdale Regional airport, with the ramp shots and others shot at Mirabel airport in Toronto. According to Wikipedia, Star Alliance were a major sponsor of the film with UA providing the 747.

Some interesting trivia if anyone's interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminal#Filming_locations

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 7):
the make-up of any department is far LESS important than the interest and the drive of those charged with responsibility for it

That's it in a nutshell. What the Transport portfolio needs (I suppose even more than a dedicated junior minister for Aviation) is someone with fresh ideas and enthusiasm for the post. It just seems to me that Dempsey and certain other Ministers are just "portfolio hopping", so to speak; just being moved from Ministerial post to Ministerial post in order to keep them in cabinet without any real emphasis on their ability to do the job in question. This may seem harsh, but none of them have done anything to convince me otherwise. I'd loved to have seen some of the backbenchers (aswell as Lenihan) brought up to the front-line. Fresh ideas and enthusiasm/drive is badly in need.


User currently offlineAerArann From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7193 times:

OA260,

The Monarch SFB service operates via SNN, However, The crew often go "Out Of Hours" conveniently and skip SNN and go straight to DUB!!!


User currently offlineIrish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 964 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7181 times:

Quoting Rineanna (Reply 10):
It's meant to be JFK, I think. The terminal was constructed in a Hangar at Palmdale Regional airport, with the ramp shots and others shot at Mirabel airport in Toronto. According to Wikipedia, Star Alliance were a major sponsor of the film with UA providing the 747.

You mean Mirabel in Montreal. There were various Air Transat aircraft in the ramp scenes, including some of their TriStars which were being withdrawn around the time the movie was made.


User currently offlineTonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7150 times:
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Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
The government has imposed a deadline for the acceptance of a new routes package for SNN, so hopefully something will happen there. I know, from my own involvement with the JER-LHR route, that there is a lot of concern about the loss of the connection - and connectivity, but I hope that if they can get either CDG or AMS, it will be seen for what it is - even better than LHR.

Unfortunately Kaitak, I believe even if SNN gets connections to CDG or AMS but not LHR (which I believe is not bad thing giving that LHR is nearly as much a mess as DUB) I'm sure we will continue to hear the Atlantic Connectivity Alliance saying it is not enough & that nothing less than 4 dailies to LHR will do.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
For anyones that interested the movie ''The Terminal'' is on RTE1 now !!!

I saw it last night.

Quoting Rineanna (Reply 2):
On that note, I've always wondered would it be possible to have a junior minister at the Dept. of Transport with special responsibility for Aviation and Aviation policy. It's such a crucial and controversial section of the transport portfolio, and with all the delays and problems encountered with the various infrastructure, I just feel that it mighten't be a bad idea. It would be interesting to hear others opinion on the idea.

That would be a sensible thing to do i.e. its never going to happen.



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User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7138 times:

Quoting Irish251 (Reply 12):
You mean Mirabel in Montreal

Yes, sorry, Montreal.

Quoting Tonymctigue (Reply 13):
i.e. its never going to happen.

That's why it's so frustrating! We need a new political party methinks!!


User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4161 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7126 times:

BMI almost a certainty for SNN-LHR according to what i've been hearing....


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User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7099 times:

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 15):
BMI almost a certainty for SNN-LHR according to what i've been hearing....

Same here but I think SNN is guaranteeing to much in order to win them over. I hope it dosen't come back and bite them on the arse.



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User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4161 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7091 times:

Agreed smokey, but anything has to better than leaving themselves open to being hostage to Ryanair's every whim.


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User currently offlineSeanjohn From Russia, joined Aug 2007, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7091 times:

Often wondered if you bite people on the arse, or in the arse??
Be interesting to see BMI at Shannon. I wonder will their service be any better than it is on the Dublin route? Oops better be careful or I will have OA260 after me!!!!!  Wink

Happy landings
J


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7083 times:

Quoting Seanjohn (Reply 18):
I wonder will their service be any better than it is on the Dublin route? Oops better be careful or I will have OA260 after me!!!!!

LOL....You must just be on the wrong flights MR!!!! Full BMI TR coming up on the 5th October!!! lol....

With regards SNN-LHR BMI are going to get a very good deal if as is expected they finally sign on the dotted line. They have been offered a very attractive deal and would be in a win win situation. The amount that SNN is offering will be far out weighed by the benefits gained by SNN.


User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7069 times:

On the Border protection facility, I've noted from Business Ireland which has some lovely pictures of Declan Collier in very artistic poses but not of Dublin Airport which is pretty much what the article is about, anyway as I was saying I took a quick skim through the article (will read it fully later when I have some time) and I note the T2 will not be the new home to US flights, the DAA planning

Quote:
an expansion of the existing Pier B, with a unique Customs and Border Protection (CBP) facility to handle their US flights. This will mean passengers can clear customs and immigration this side of the Atlantic and by the time they reach the US they will be treated like a domestic flight.



John Hancock
User currently offlineAl2637 From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7041 times:

Ryanair in talks about opening SNN-AMS

http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0920/ryanair.html


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7027 times:

Quoting Al2637 (Reply 21):
Ryanair in talks about opening SNN-AMS

Would be a waste of time. No thru check and interline to KLM's network. This would benefit very few. A Cityjet/KLM service would be far more desirable. Alot of businessmen want to connect to KLM's Asian/Middle East network.


User currently offlineEIDAA From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 828 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7006 times:
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Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 5):
before MyWay starts

This must be another one I missed... when did MOL mention MyWay? I know he talked about a long haul operation but didn't know he had already named it. Funny, because the company I work for has an aircraft on lease with My Way down in Italy.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 7):
"Minister for Silly Walks with special responsibility for aviation"

Love Monty Python... thanks for the laugh!



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User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4161 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6993 times:

SNN-AMS would be a good performer, but I wonder who is Ryanair trying to warn or damage? EI with the ORK-AMS service or scare off cityjet / AF from SNN?

If Cityjet / AF do set up shop in SNN, I think they would be better considering an AMS route rather than CDG.

CDG will have to contend with the FR service to BVA, which will take most if not all of the leisure traffic. Even with Connecting pax, you still need a certain amount of O&D pax to rip off with high fares to balance out the lower yield connecting traffic.

At least with AMS, Cityjet would have that market to itself.



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25 JWMD123 : just seen that between today and tomorrow there are 43 departures to the 3 airports in Paris, CDG, BVA and LBG. Anyone spotting out a DUB either today
26 Al2637 : I think if FR were to start one route to AMS, more would follow. EI have a monopoly on the DUB-AMS route, 5 times a day, with frequent A321 roations.
27 Dstc47 : Stories in the Northern Ireland media today suggest that a rail link to Belfast International might be on the cards. There is, apparently, a disused r
28 Shamrock604 : There is already talk of WX operating DUB-AMS at high frequency, but KL seem to be extremely unwilling to give up the EI codeshare agreement, even if
29 Shamrock604 : Was just on Pe@rson's FR routes thread and Teahan made an interesting contribution: "An interesting Ryanair news day. - In addition to the SNN-AMS tal
30 OA260 : Yes AMS is alot easier to transit through. I doubt EI would do this. They would loose alot of revenue. EI pick alot of KLM bound traffic on this rout
31 Al2637 : I guess my point is that if EI need to reduce capacity on the route (due to competition from FR), and not having anything smaller than an A320, the o
32 OA260 : Im all for competition and would actually love to see a KLM 737 into Dublin. I dont think id like to see any LCC replace a carrier that offers codesh
33 Shamrock350 : Just the nickname it got on this thread for his new airline. If he failed in getting Aer Lingus he would start this new long-haul airline and do it h
34 Post contains links Smokeyrosco : http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0920/ryanair.html
35 Bramble : In my opinion the junior ministries as just a way to reward loyal soldiers of destiny. Can you see Bev Flynn (she will be there soon unfortunately)ac
36 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Here's an interesting review about Aer Lingus Premier class. http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/aer_ling.htm
37 EIDAA : Thanks
38 OA260 : I cant wait til the 1C flights DUB-EVN and DUB-TBS start LOL.....
39 Post contains links Kaitak : Well, MO'L is certainly having a busy day today, between speculation about SNN (possibly also DUB-) AMS and now, speculation that he may take legal ac
40 Post contains links Kaitak : Incidentally, saw a thread just started on the forthcoming Routes conference, starting in Stockholm on Sunday next. http://www.worldroutesstockholm.co
41 Tonymctigue : That's good news. Hopefully we can get confirmation of this soon. Lets hope it all works out. The Atlantic Connectivity Alliance really do need to th
42 Tonymctigue : SNN-BVA must be doing all right so. Its good to hear at least one of FR's European services are doing well out of SNN seing as so many that were intr
43 EXTspotter : He is doing what he does best, whinging his smug face off. If smug could be turned into electricity, MO'L would be the only power plant the world woul
44 EISHN : Does any lucky sod have a ticket to Paris for tomorrow? And any word on N272WA since his excursion into the unknown that is Bordeaux last week?
45 Tonymctigue : You'd be in line for a Nobel prize if you could figure out how to harness that power. Maybe you could start with all the hot air he expels & take it
46 OA260 : A few weeks back the packages were Eur 899 then they reduced them to Eur 299 !!! Apparantly due to a larger AC being put on !!!! Just shows you what
47 EXTspotter : It is kinda naughty, but fairplay to them, if they can sell them at that price. Its not uncommon as you probably know. I hope that we get better, last
48 Post contains links Kaitak : New ORK-BTS route this winter, to be operated by Sky Europe: http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishex...qqa=ireland-qqqid=43231-qqqx=1.asp
49 Shamrock604 : Tony, I cant provide a source for LF stats, but they werent all that good to be honest. I used the flight roughly every two weeks and it was empty ex
50 Tonymctigue : I would be furious if I were one of the guys who paid Eur 899 & wound up sitting next to a guy who paid Eur 299. Well in all fairness, it seems it wa
51 Tonymctigue : Hey, anyone watching Ireland AM this morning? They were interviewing rugby fans queuing up in DUB to check in for their charter flights to France. Tho
52 Shamrock604 : Tony, to be fair on them, they did sort these issues out, but starting ops before your credit card system is in place isnt good. Their website at the
53 OA260 : Well there was a radio program on it up here a few weeks back. It always comes up every few years . When I see a train on the rails then I will belie
54 Post contains links JWMD123 : Another new 738 heading to DUB for FR http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RYR800C
55 Post contains links EIDAA : " target=_blank>http://flightaware.com/live/flight/R...R800C Presumably EI-DWC and it looks like EI-DWB flew across on Tuesday. http://flightaware.com
56 Bramble : Bloody Air Corps nearly made me spill me tea................ 7 IAC choppers just buzzed my home. I live beside the basketball area. The came in from t
57 Tango29 : Last day of active service for these aircraft, sad day for irish aviation we'll miss the sound of these great helicopters, congratulations to the iri
58 OA260 : Jet-set fans grounded by airport jam - Demand for slots for private jets at Dublin airport has soared, to the point that dozens of high-net-worth rugb
59 Smokeyrosco : Absolutly, I saw one of these on desplay at the Bray Airshow at the beginning of the month, I was amazed how it could be thrown around. They served u
60 EXTspotter : FlyGlobespan's TA routes are going downhill (mainly because GSM is a rubbish airline) how have the irish flights been doing?
61 OA260 : Their reputation has been soiled to put it mildly after this summer. I would say it will affect their operations next year. People will be cautious a
62 EIDAA : They just flew over the office here in Dun Laoghaire - impressive to see six Alouettes in formation.
63 EI787 : Yes, saw the six of them around 3.15pm above the RTE studios in Donnybook. It was class!
64 Post contains links and images Kaitak : SR Technics has won a contract to perform heavy maintenance on seven SAS A340s and four A330s. (Source: Speed news) Should add a nice bit of colour to
65 OA260 : Yes will be great to see them coming into DUB. Would be great if they used them for a DUB-CPH after they have finished the maintenance!!!
66 EIDAA : Yes, that is a nice bit of work for the guys in Dublin. When I first heard the news I thought they were sending them to ZRH but ATI confirms DUB.
67 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : A380 nose for the A350XWB has been confirmed by Airbus. I prefer the original XWB nose but if it's a better design and better for Aer Lingus as a cust
68 Post contains links OA260 : Something to cheer you all up at half time in the rugby!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZsP4kWdUwk
69 Post contains links OA260 : This is un real. Tunis Air tail strike !!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIuFzi83Lr4
70 Smokeyrosco : SAS A340's have been in a few times recently (in the last two years) for maintenance in FLS.
71 Post contains links and images Kaitak : Dear old 'SHN, looking very smart in its new colours! View Large View MediumPhoto © Norman Yusof Also, it seems that new coach company operating
72 Post contains links and images Smokeyrosco : The First of FR's 737's to be withdrawn was so during the week. Here's a photo of a SAS A330 in for maintenance. View Large View MediumPhoto © Al
73 BestWestern : Yields on SNN BVA are appalling, but loads arent bad... theres no way this will go x2 daily, unless FR are really struggling to maintain their hub in
74 Shamrock604 : just a warning to WX/ AF i think, and anyone else who has the audacity to actually try to compete with Ryanair..... as bad as Aer Lingus ever were bac
75 OA260 : Man Arrested After Firearm Found On Jet Updated: 15:56, Saturday September 22, 2007 A man arrested on suspicion of smuggling a firearm into Britain on
76 AC747 : Just noticed this on the DUB website, - Genoa Air Caribe CAJ910 23-09-2007 14:15 - Is this the same as Air Caraibes ? Can't find any info on them on l
77 BestWestern : CityJet know all about competing with Ryanair... Both FR and WX announced their respective DUB BVA and DUB CDG services in the same week. CDG DUB now
78 EISHN : Any word on our friend, N272WA? Did he make it back from Bordeaux?
79 Shamrock604 : BestWestern, Indeed, and WX have done an impressive job on DUB-CDG. However, it is transit pax that fill the WX aircraft. It is to be hoped that it wo
80 OA260 : Yes exactly. WX would find it hard to compete if it wernt for the AF flight number on those flights!! Majority are connecting onto AF's global networ
81 Shamrock604 : OA260, Exactly. Try standing at the baggage belt for the DUB flight at CDG... you will be lucky to have 20 pax standing waiting for bags after steppin
82 Shamrock604 : Incidentally, can anyone in the know about these things tell me what the standby situation is on the SIN-SYD route for travel in december? good availa
83 OA260 : When I flew them the last time as far as CDG the only people standing at the belts were weekend city breakers and people bound for Eurodisney. They m
84 Post contains links OA260 : Its not great but not impossible either , seeing as the A380 has more seats . You may get on stand by . To check availability try this link :: http:/
85 Shamrock604 : Precisely OA. Any DUB-CDG pax will inevitably take the lower fare option. (EI if you actually want to land somewhere within the Paris Metropolitan Ar
86 Kaitak : I can't say I'm in the know, but I'd imagine that this is the worst possible time to try for sby on that route, with all of the Christmas traffic. Ve
87 OA260 : No your right Kaitak, Xmas traffic is huge to OZ. Its busy at the best of times but from say 5th December onwards it really hots up. Im sure they mig
88 Post contains images BestWestern : CDG is easier to transit, as long as you stay AF Skyteam, than Heathrow. I even prefer it to AMS. Its a pity that the AF ground staff are so stuck up
89 Post contains images OA260 : I always would give myself 2-3 hours transit time in Paris. One reason why is that if you misconnect you have to deal with the CDG AF ground staff wh
90 Shamrock604 : Yup, AF are still handled by Sky Handling at DUB. On the subject of connections, Yes, AF would have most pax connecting, EI to AMS has many connecting
91 Smokeyrosco : actually it's about 50% that transit with AF obviously depending on the time of day or day of week. you sure? generally there's only about 30 - 60 ba
92 Post contains images Shamrock604 : True, but there arent many seats on the aircraft either!!
93 OA260 : AF must be telling porkys with their figures!!! The first and second flights get the bulk of onward transit pax according to them . I guess any given
94 Smokeyrosco : That is correct, but the other flights have less transit passengers by a long shot. Will 50% even so is nothing to be sniffed at.
95 Post contains links OA260 : True. I just saw this and I have to say its the worst cross wind landing Ive seen!!! Scary . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOnfGKCqDAg
96 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : Does anyone know what this sticker is on the A321s? View Large View MediumPhoto © Mark Kwiatkowski I thought it could be a UNICEF sticker like wh
97 OA260 : Your right it looks different. Is it to cover the Oneworld logo maybe?? Shamrock350 did you register as a volunteer for the T5 tests???
98 BestWestern : In terms of Transit - PRG is superb, as is CPH - however the sheer volume of WX flights to CDG makes it an excellent choice for 2 day trips to Europe
99 COEI2007 : How old was EI-SHN when EI got rid of it? Did they get rid of it after 9/11? It was nice to see all of the Rugby charters. It was nice to see an AF 3
100 Post contains images Shamrock604 : Just a quick observation folks.... So far, this must be the most balanced Irish Aviation thread yet! Most of what we have discussed has been about Sky
101 Post contains links BestWestern : Unbeknowns to Pe@rson - the Ryanair cheerleader - there is a secret Aer Lingus love in going on over in the members only ... http://www.airliners.net
102 Shamrock604 : ha ha..... How about we set an official EI fan club thread up, just to really rub it in? Sorry pe@rson...we mean no offence, all good humoured banter!
103 OA260 : LOL...too funny !!! Anybody got any trip comming up on Luxair??? Id love to see a TR on them. Never seen one from DUB-MAN-LUX. Saying that Ive never
104 Shamrock350 : I was going to but all the days I need to be at college, those dates are around the time when all my work is due in or when I start getting more work
105 Rineanna : There was one on here a couple of days ago; I think it was a LUX-CDG-JFK routing.
106 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus is expected to start it's Belfast advertising campaign tomorrow. Aer Lingus have sold only 176 seats from BFS-LHR while FR have sold 1,100
107 OA260 : I wouldnt have minded taking part but October/November are totally out for me . I will be travelling alot already. Will look out for them , hope they
108 EXTspotter : I am flying FR3124 STN - VLL on Wednesday Morning. I want to see how they compare to my other FR Flights FR3124/5 STN - VLL, last year and FR7??/? STN
109 Shamrock350 : They've taken long enough so they better be good. It's also going to be the big first impression of EI in Northern Ireland and EI are a very differen
110 Post contains links Kaitak : Helicopter makes emergency landing on UCD Sports ground. 1 on board survives. http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhcwsnkfkfcw/ With me, it's the other
111 Smokeyrosco : Last night I was thinking about FR's offer to Dublin Port and how they are not afraid to advertise anyone in their aircraft etc, In a moment of drunke
112 EXTspotter : I wish I had got my camera out now when I was on the apron at EXT, I could have got 5 Flybes, 2 E195s and 3 Q400s, G-JECU (BE371 to MAN - mine), G-JED
113 Rineanna : Errrr....I hate to burst your bubble but I think someone beat you to that in one of the last threads!!!
114 EXTspotter : pop!
115 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : Sound like EXT is the place to be if your a Flybe fan! A bit like DUB for EI and FR fans. I miss the Aer Lingus 737s, they were great aircraft. We us
116 Smokeyrosco : apologies
117 OA260 : Id love to see a TR on that !! I flew TS L10-11 from YYZ-PUJ when I went on vacation a few years back. It was great . I stayed at the Melia Tropical
118 BrianDromey : I flew LG about 12 months ago DUB-MAN. They are a very decent little airline. The FAs tend to speak German Frenchand English fluently. All passengers
119 Post contains links EI787 : Here's a link to the Pay & Conditions for new Belfast pilots: http://www.aerlingus.com/Corporate/BFSPilot_Pay_And_Conditions.pdf
120 JWMD123 : Thanks for the link OA260 (and EI787). Was looking up my flight to OZ in October and came across the below details 26OCT FRI LHR/ Z#1 SYD/#9 13VS 200
121 Shamrock350 : I remember the hot breakfasts, they were great and everyone loved them. Nobody would eat anything at the airport because they were looking forward to
122 EIDAA : Ok, a question for OA260 - a man in the know... how do you interpret this? I just wanted to check how full the EI inaugural from SFO to DUB is. Anyway
123 OA260 : Flight it very full. Prem Y is 100% full , Y is almost certainly very full. The flight is around 60-70% full. Haha probably !!! The last time I went
124 Post contains images BrianDromey : OA260, might be able to give you a better idea, but from my understanding of SABRE, 7 (sometimes 5 or 9) is the magic number. This, generally, means
125 EIDAA : Thanks for the link and the info.
126 Post contains images EI787 : Haha! I didn't think I posted it! I was trying to rack my brains to work out if I did or not. Thanks for the praise anyway OA260...Even though the cr
127 Post contains images OA260 : LOL...I thought it was EI787!!! Didnt hear him deny it !!!lol.... am I supposed to remember 100% from thread No. 23452 ?? Im good but bot that good S
128 BrianDromey : You are more than welcome. That is such a handy tool for looking into flights, especially if you are not sure what carriers are on the route, or you
129 Post contains links OA260 : Just reading on RTE . This guy has gone missing in Paris!! Sounds very strange . http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0923/kennellyj.html
130 JWMD123 : Thanks for the info. We are lucky enough to have 2 of those premium Y seats!!!!!!!
131 JWMD123 : Thanks Brian, we plan to have a ball (have a few internal flights on Virgin Blue, Qantas and Jetstar so should make for a good TR) We have already bo
132 EXTspotter : You could say that, I live under the arrivals off and departures for the Berry Head (BHD) VOR, I see the underneath of E195s coming back from spain a
133 Post contains links Sawtooth : Interesting, article about a new Donegal - Rotterdam route, any one know who is planning on operating this? http://www.highlandradio.com/news.php?arti
134 Tonymctigue : Great news for CFN airport. I just checked out their website but it does not mention who the operator is.
135 OA260 : I think we must have had the new Terminal then caus when we landed we came down the steps and walked to the terminal and it looked quite nice. There
136 Smokeyrosco : Saw the EI 9 new destionations advert twice toinght, last time just now on Network 2
137 Post contains links Kaitak : T2 to be close to capacity soon after opening? http://www.independent.ie/national-n...l-soon-after-it-opens-1086159.html McEvaddy is lobbying again fo
138 Post contains images EIDAA : Enjoy Virgin Blue, they are great to fly with! I had a few hops with them between SYD and MEL back in March/April. I flew with QF on the same route a
139 Tonymctigue : So let me get this straight. You have FR saying the new terminal is too big & now we have McEvaddy saying it is too small. Someone has to be wrong he
140 Shamrock350 : I thought it would have stopped by now, good to hear it's still running. The Belfast campaign starts today in the North, so EI have a good amount of
141 OA260 : Bit of a con to be honest. I looked for a few dates in November to LHR and cheapest is still €71 return all in. On the ad is says €23 oneway all
142 Smokeyrosco : Well I think these guys are looking at it in two different ways and they are both right (if you take their point of view). I believe MOL is saying th
143 Smokeyrosco : Oh yes and that was the government when they where responding to accusations by FR, apparently competing terminals have worked quite well according t
144 EI564 : The situation in the US is a lot different from Ireland. I think Istanbul is the only instance of competing terminals in Europe (and that hasn't work
145 Post contains links Smokeyrosco : I was just pointing out what was said. http://www.rte.ie/business/2005/0518/airport.html With 7% growth in 2005 and nearly 15% growth in 2006 is that
146 Post contains images OA260 : Just some news snippets:: New airport terminal 'could be full soon after it opens' - Dublin Airport may need a third terminal just two years after the
147 BrianDromey : I think these are, in fact, owned and operated by the IAA. Certainly the runways are. I think it would be benificial alright. If the terminal would b
148 Post contains links OA260 : http://home.eircom.net/content/irela...m/breaking/11169362?view=Eircomnet Aer Lingus 'may leave Midwest' 12:53Monday, 24th September, 2007 Aer Lingus
149 EXTspotter : MAN T3 isn't a shopping haven as it is the domestic terminal. If you want shopping haven, you have to go to T2 where the majority of the outside EU fl
150 EIDAA : Any chance this SIPTU/SAG person might have their wires crossed? Forgive me if I am being cheeky with a highly sensitive issue on here, but I can pic
151 Post contains links EI564 : Admittedly, there is a lot of confusion about T3. But this is what the DoT actually said… http://transport.ie/viewitem.asp?id=6658&lang=ENG&loc=185
152 Rineanna : Yes, I found that article quite strange actually; not most because someone decided to write it based on what someone might or might not have heard wh
153 Bx737 : I haven't seen it, but could it be something to do with the Special Olympics and the fact that EI are the carrier of the Irish team to London for the
154 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : Here's a nice photo of EI at MAN, the pilot is waving and it looks like the aerlingus.com logo is slowly fading, probably because of air stairs and je
155 Humberside : Donegal-RTM seems a bit of a random route
156 Smokeyrosco : Where does it say it won't be operated privately? The article I posted above said nothing about the PD's so if they where spinning it, they must have
157 Tonymctigue : Sure I'm not surprised. The last four times I've come back from the US through SNN & when I got to customs not only did I not get asked but there was
158 EXTspotter : Like you would've admitted anyway?
159 Post contains images Smokeyrosco : No doubt there will be a crack down starting the day I return, I've never admitted to it and the two times I was asked (4 or 5 years ago) I was coming
160 OA260 : On my way back from the USA I give myself 3-4 hours between flights and clear luggage through UK customs. There are so many people comming out of Term
161 Post contains images EI564 : I posted a link from the Department of Transport (who presumably should know) which contradicts your article. You may be right but I think the DoT is
162 Post contains images Irish251 : This is not a great shot but you can see that the decal is a Special Olympics one. This is EI-CPC on takeoff at Dublin on 23 September.
163 OA260 : That solves the mystery!! Nice to see EI supporting such a good cause.
164 Post contains images Smokeyrosco : The article you linked to does not state if it will be publicly or privately run, just that there will be a third terminal.
165 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Anyone seen the Aer Lingus BFS adverts yet? I read that there was a full page advert in the Daily Mirror for EI. Someone on the bus was reading the Lo
166 Tonymctigue : Very true. I didn't want to say too much in case there was customs officers amongst us here on this thread. As someone mentioned, all you have to o i
167 OA260 : Interesting program on RTE1 using Dublin airport to explain the Irish economy. We are the 6th largest spenders in New York city !!!!lol....
168 Shamrock350 : Just read on PPRUNE that Cork is to get covered walkways and that work begins in October/November with completion expected towards the end of the year
169 OA260 : I doubt unless it was a large amount that they would . For most normal people $1000 would be the most they would bring back for an average 3-4 night
170 Bramble : I would estimate about 40% of our pax are connecting. I get a lot of questions when we are leaving DUB late. AMS is nice to transit as I can usually
171 EI564 : Exactly. I don't think its decided one way or the other. Allows the governement to choose whatever suits it best whenever the decision needs to be ma
172 Tonymctigue : That's no surprise. It seems that starting about now, everybody you talk to is on their way to New York to do some Christmas shopping & with the weak
173 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Some interesting comments by Enda Corneille. http://www.independent.ie/business/e...-from-open-skies-deal-1087938.html If EI drop DXB in favour of a m
174 Dstc47 : USA shopping trips. Do not say that you do not know what the customs limits are. From the Customs notice If you are travelling to Ireland from any cou
175 OA260 : EUR175?? Thats a stupid amount!!! Might have known it was dictated from the EU !!! Its a joke . Anything to stop people getting a bargain and saving
176 ABC9 : The EUR175 limit is for goods "free of duty" only. Tony is right on the 200-300 limit for goods that are duty paid, i.e. bought in a downtown shop. I
177 ABC9 : For the record (and for what it's worth), so too do Labour, Tommy Broughan, from my constitutency, Dublin NE, which at least borders on Dublin North
178 Smokeyrosco : Huh? Ireland and the EU? Completely agree
179 OA260 : EUR 300 is nothing these days . Sure anytime you go into a shop its a note your handing over!!! I think the allowance should go from EUR300 to EUR600
180 Dstc47 : Nope ABCD9, read the post again The total limit is for all goods imported by an adult free of duty ( in Ireland , whether bought tax free or tax paid
181 Shamrock604 : To be fair though, the limits are rarely enforced unless you are taking the total piss. I came back from NY last year around xmas, and was stopped at
182 OA260 : Well thats not too bad then . I guess its who you get on the day and if your stopped etc.... I intend to go out with an empty suitcase and come back
183 CTRL_ALT_DEL : Leaving Dub for Muc on Saturday morning last (scheduled 07:20 with EIN) we left nearly 40 mins late, the reason being that there were not enough stand
184 Post contains images OA260 :
185 Shamrock350 : Just saw that while looking at BFS flights on aerlingus.com! I wonder is that a scene from the new adverts, it looks good.
186 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Ryanair will do anything to damage Aer Lingus! http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0925/aerlingus.html
187 Smokeyrosco : Um, was that not the case anyway?
188 Shamrock604 : 11,000 more for their most senior captains eh? It also says "could earn"... so it may well be productivity linked. A far more interesting comparison w
189 BrianDromey : The EI BFS ads look interesting, hopefully EI will use more EI sepecific images/staff in future advertising. Quick question for Bramble/Bx737. How com
190 ABC9 : Apologies Dstc47, you are correct - an even smaller limit than I thought
191 Bramble : The second wave of departures (0700 onwards) are often stung like that. The a/c is being towed on stand but departing a/c get prority to taxi which d
192 Smokeyrosco : Correct, or at least had 10 options, there is suppose to be one execised for 08 according to Jethros (prusibly for BFS). I don't know the full break
193 CTRL_ALT_DEL : Thanks Bramble for the background information. I must admit Area 14 represents a slight improvement, and is well run at this rush hour period with mos
194 Shamrock604 : Bramble, I agree with you to a point, but I think i remember reading somewhere that the free capacity would be used to get SFO up to at least a 6x we
195 OA260 : Do we have a date for Pier D opening yet???
196 Shamrock350 : Just to see what's happened in the past two years I had a look at all the new routes announced and aircraft orders. All the new routes announced since
197 Smokeyrosco : 1 in 06, two in 07 received, two(?) more this year, and one next year. I'm not sure if it's one more this year and one next year but EI are to receive
198 Shamrock350 : I think these are the A320s, delivered and yet to be delivered. EI DET - June 2006 EI DVF - May 2007 EI DVE - May 2007 EI DVG - Due November 2007 (Bel
199 Smokeyrosco : Actually just looking at them I'd imagine that DET was ordered by WW.
200 Shamrock350 : That's what I was thinking but I checked the Airbus press release and it says that all the aircraft would have been delivered by the end of 2005 and
201 OA260 : What about ATH ??? So the 1st flights out of BFS will be on brand new EI metal???
202 Kaitak : So, it's pretty much official at this stage that DXB is going? That's a real shame, very disappointing - particularly because it was COMPLETELY avoid
203 Rineanna : Hopefully Vermot will look towards Montreal or Toronto with the arrival of the new a/c. That's impressive when it's laid out like that, on short haul
204 Shamrock350 : Sorry forgot about ATH. Not entirely sure but EI-DVG will arrive just in time for the BFS opening in December so I expect that will be based in BFS.
205 Post contains links Kaitak : I think 'DVH is also due before the end of the year. I don't think it necessarily follows that the new aircraft will automatically go to BFS; after al
206 EISHN : Going to Seattle this weekend. Fl;ying with Delta from SNN-ATl-SEA, and then SEA-JFK-SNN. Should be an interesting trip altogether. From SNN-ATL, we'r
207 Shamrock350 : Carsurvey is good for reviews, shame to see the bad ones for Aviajet. That's worrying. Surely inhaling fumes like that on an aircraft is very bad for
208 Smokeyrosco : Possibly but it looks like there is an aircraft coming through early next year which makes sense as thats when the last of EI's routes from BFS will
209 EISHN : December. Pretty sure about it. Know, know, I'd never dream of taking a trip and [i]not[/] doing one. Forgot to mention that I'll have a 07:00 flight
210 Shamrock350 : Great! I'm looking forward to it! Sound about right, it will probably be around late December or January ready for LHR and the new routes starting in
211 BrianDromey : Its likely, but not certain, I guess. Last June I flew DVH ORK-AMS and 17 days later I flew -DVH AMS-ORK. I would guess that it had been in ORK all o
212 Shamrock350 : Sounds nice, whats different about the seats exactly?
213 OA260 : Looking forward to the pics. Especially of the DUB-ATL with pics of seats and seat pitch etc... Meal service / IFE . Should be interesting. I havnt f
214 F1eddie : I was over in EMA for a wedding there last weekend. Was good craic. Ryanair got me over and back all on time. Horrible turblence though coming into d
215 OA260 : Not good to keep EY waiting !!! DAA's bread and butter !!! Yes well yesterday and today have been very windy if its anything like its been up here. T
216 BestWestern : DL transatlantic service is quite good actually, and the 764 is a great aircraft. If you dont already have a first class seat, beg for one at the tic
217 Tonymctigue : That's a very good point. I we weren't getting screwed so much when we go shopping in this country then we wouldn't need to go abroad looking for bar
218 Post contains images EI787 : The Revenue heard you all talking about shopping abroad!!! In tonight's news: A bit of a coincidence! Talking about the Revenue and then a story pops
219 Tonymctigue : I'm just after reading it on the RTE webite & thought the same thing. I hope we haven't ruined many peoples plans to buy all their Christmas presents
220 OA260 : Didn't know Bertie was in NYC !!! And he spent Eur 15,740?? Are you sure it was Euro and not Stirling or was it Dollars LOL.... Haha you would be sur
221 F1eddie : Em you think they would fill us in on whats coming down the line then and do as we say!!!!
222 Post contains images EI787 : Jesus! Talk about RANDOM!
223 Tonymctigue : I hope MOL is not one of them!!! Talk about a small world. This is why I generally try not to be too insulting because you never know who is amongst
224 Pe@rson : And you're MO'L's younger sister! Aer Lingus Fan Club, over and out.
225 EI564 : I presume we don't know where that last A320 is going for sure yet? Its arriving in June 2008 if I recall correctly. You can make an argument for BFS
226 Tonymctigue : Next time you drop into out thread can you please think of something new to say.
227 Pe@rson : Ryanair. Ireland's favourite airline.
228 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Anyone seen the new bmi website, I prefer the old one. I like the look of the new lie flat seats they are getting on the A330s but I'm not sure on the
229 Post contains images EISHN : Arrive Saturday evening, leave Tuesday morning!!! DOing the Everett tour on SUnday morning, and the Boeing Museum of Flight! Will have to look out fo
230 OA260 : Yes , although the first few days it was a nightmare to get anything booked or done on it was so slow and kept breaking down. I like the new section
231 OA260 : I suggest you get this remark removed !! Because I for one am not amused and am reporting it . If you want to say derogatory things about Greeks do i
232 Shamrock350 : I do like BD, they are a good airline and have some great people working for them. When Aer Lingus had staff at LHR I used to see them talking and hav
233 EISHN : Don't worry, I'll back you. Low blow Pe@rson. OA260 was having a laugh with ya, but you had to turn and resort to racial slurs.
234 OA260 : Yes I agree there. I hate those ''BMI time'' ads. They are very budget and not really doing anything for them . Yes your right . I used to know a gir
235 F1eddie : Is it BMI that mention both BA and Virgin on there telly adverts. I was sleeping in bed hungover on Sunday and only caught the tail-end of some adver
236 Post contains images Pe@rson : [quote=EISHN,reply=235]Low blow Pe@rson. OA260 was having a laugh with ya, but you had to turn and resort to racial slurs. LMAO. I'm a Devonian. You'
237 Shamrock350 : I remember watching Airport on BBC a few years ago, there was a few episodes about EI getting it's new A321 and a particular staff member, I think he
238 Shamrock350 : Nope but would love to see what airline is comparing themselves to BA and VS! Here's the BD advert, it's hard to tell it's even about an airline unti
239 Rineanna : I'm kind of on the proverbial fence about it; in one way I think it's a bit bland. Then again, it's well laid out and looks that bit more professiona
240 OA260 : Yes they show it on SKY now . The re runs. She was in T3 the last time I saw it. Handling PIA and a few others. Then there was another one when EI go
241 Shamrock350 : EI have 9 inches in both classes. Bmi have 15 inches in Business and in economy they have 9 inch PTVs.
242 Shamrock350 : I have seen that a good few times, all the singing they were doing, all she could do was laugh! I saw her in LHR once a few years ago, she was busy w
243 Rineanna : Really?! J doesn't get anything bigger than Y?
244 F1eddie : God well that is awful. Sorry cant help you on who that advert is which i barely heard. Must be some asian or middle eastern carrier though!!! Well i
245 OA260 : I know her brother and then by default met her. They are a really nice family. The guy who was leading that group to Cyprus was Gerry McMahon who own
246 OA260 : Haha not at all. I just have never had a bad experience on UA . Then again as said before most of my flights have been Trans Atlantic and in their J
247 Shamrock104 : As much as I dislike bmi, how can anyone claim EI's latest ads are better. They are cheap and tacky looking compared to bmi's.... and i've studied med
248 OA260 : To be honest both BMI and EI's are low budget!!! I think the best Ads at the moment at EY and KE . Especially KE , its so different. Also the DL ad i
249 Shamrock104 : Agree with you OA260 on those observations, for those of us who spend hours of our time (wasted? surely not) on cable TV, but seriously, if anyone her
250 OA260 : Well in fairness I dont think they blindly support EI !! They have said on many occasions that they wish they were dishing out better catering. They
251 Shamrock104 : OA260, couldn't have put it better myself. not a staff problem, a management one, but that said ROI sympathy doesn't lie with EI workers, due to numer
252 OA260 : Its not official but highly likely . Unless they get a second blast of enthusiasm . They really did nothing to promote links with EK or link websites
253 Shamrock104 : gotcha OA260. Upcoming trip report from me, albeit with much reluctance, next frew weeks i'll be on these birds (unfortunately the the 'real' definiti
254 Tonymctigue : You lucky devil. I've vowed to myself that I'm going to Seattle to see the Boeing factory before I die & by God I am going to do it. I'm half plannin
255 Shamrock350 : I dont like the BD adverts and everytime a new EI ad comes out I hope it's going to be the next "You're Home" but it never is. However with EI advert
256 Sawtooth : Back in Irish Aviation news... XL airways have begun taking bookings online for Knock - Gatwick, flights M T W T F_ S from December. Took a quick look
257 Rineanna : That just strikes me as a bit non-sensical. You'd think J would get a few more inches to acknowledge the money they've put into EI's coffers! Right,
258 JWMD123 : Will they be using one of the aircraft based in DUB to do this route.
259 BrianDromey : I dont think they are low budget, they are kind of 'arty farty'. They are not clearly about an airline, but about a 'travel process' or 'journey' so
260 OA260 : Send me a PM and I will give you the person to contact once you have got you GC card renewed!!! Welcome to SKY ....lol . You will be able to watch Ai
261 Sawtooth : No idea, I'm guessing they are using spare capacity between Irish holiday flights, or utilising ferry routes to Gatwick.
262 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Nice to see Aer Lingus doesn't talk about it's competitors in anyway to the press, it only makes Aer Lingus look tacky if they did. It's a shame Ryan
263 OA260 : Interesting to see that OZ/JL have similar lay flat type seats to EI's new ones. The BMI ones look a bit weird in colour and I wonder if they really a
264 Bramble : Actually I find the EI long haul economy service to be embarassing....as i have always said. We have a decent LAX service but the east coast is not g
265 OA260 : If DXB is axed and no more routes to be announced until after Oct 2008 . Where will the DXB AC go to ??
266 BrianDromey : I would guess that if EI launch a new route, then it woudl be to one of the destinations which are currently available for bookin on aerlingus.com, wi
267 JWMD123 : Brian refer to the below quote you never know, someone might pick up on your idea!!!!!!
268 Post contains links Smokeyrosco : And it drags on. http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0926/ryanair.html
269 OA260 : Looks like no going back !!! I think BA were holding off until the final curtain. Quote::: From 14 January 2008 British Airways codeshare Aer Lingus (
270 Kaitak : Sad news to report yesterday; a man in his 50s suffered a horrific accident at DUB, when he fell down two flights of escalators; unfortunately, died l
271 OA260 : Yes heard it on the news. Freak accident. Very sad indeed. RIP.
272 Post contains images Rineanna : That's terrible, as is every death of course, but this in particular was such a freak accident, as OA260 said. No pressure!
273 Post contains links Kaitak : Here we go folks ... Line up for No. 42/07 The Answer Is 42; The Question: Irish Aviation (by Kaitak Sep 26 2007 in Civil Aviation)
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