Zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 4716 posts, RR: 13 Posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6246 times:
The UA Boeing 720 thread got me looking at old cabin layouts. When perusing the 707/720 selections I happened to notice a Pan Am cabin that had these unique overhead passenger controls. Now, bare with me as I explain myself.
Hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2117 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6101 times:
Venturing a guess...see the split in the overhead? It's a 707-321CF I think...convertible freighter running as pax which would make sense for a charter. Would suspect that the flat PCU's are so they can fold up to the ceiling to allow pallets in.
Iflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5950 times:
I remember what your talking about- PanAm had 3 or 4 707's that were dedicated to charters, but IIRC, (by my dad) it wasn't until the mid 60's. They pretty much did LAX-HNL and a couple of European Charter markets. And they changed the overhead controls and I think it went the way DL's L-15's were for a while. I never understood that concept, because no matter what, the AC was always hot. I was on one as a kid and remember it and asked my dad why. I remember my dad pointing out on charters, you don't always get the full serviice you would on a regular scheduled flight-circa 1966. And your right, just had a light switch and maybe a port for movies. And when the 747's came on board, they were more interested in keeping the 747's coming and weren't too concerned about updating the 707's including the charter versions. AA and TW did that and the rest is history.
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Zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 4716 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5837 times:
Quoting Iflyatldl (Reply 3): And they changed the overhead controls and I think it went the way DL's L-15's were for a while. I never understood that concept
Were you referring to DL L 1011's? Sorry those flights were overheated. I'd think back in the day if you told a stewardess. Yes thats what they were called back then. They would tell the flight engineer (that third crew member) who would make the adjustment.
Thanks to everyone's answers.
Quoting Iflyatldl (Reply 3): AA and TW did that and the rest is history.
AA birds got the redo but, TWA birds kept the classic pods.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21444 posts, RR: 24 Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5069 times:
Quoting Zippyjet (Reply 4): AA birds got the redo but, TWA birds kept the classic pods.
There were at least a couple of other companies that did 707 interior conversions with larger overhead bins etc. They also did similar conversions on many DC-8s. 707 example below:
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