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DL & CO Much More Expensive From NY To HEL  
User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3463 times:

Once again, when selecting flights from NY area to HEL, I noticed that both DL and CO can be almost double the cost compared to KL and AF on the same dates! Cheapest was KLM with a few options less than $700, when DL could be close to $2,000. This in about two weeks from now. NW is reasonable especially from BDL, but they are of course, working very closely with KL. Why this huge variation? Is it maybe due to code-share arrangement from AMS or CDG (AY)?

Before somebody suggests it: no AY for me...Skymiles miles...

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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3432 times:

Quoting FFlyer (Thread starter):

Before somebody suggests it: no AY for me...Skymiles miles

You better take the opportunity to fly on one of the last pax MD11s around than earning miles  duck 

Quoting FFlyer (Thread starter):
Is it maybe due to code-share arrangement from AMS or CDG (AY)?

AF does not fly CDG-HEL, they indeed codeshare with AY on this route while KL flies AMS-HEL with their own metal, and does not codeshare with AY.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7122 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Which means you dont earn DL miles on the AY codeshare


The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineFlyHoss From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

Or have DL and CO already sold out of the (relatively) cheap seats?


A little bit louder now, a lil bit louder now...
User currently offlineFFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3119 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 1):
You better take the opportunity to fly on one of the last pax MD11s around than earning miles

Well, I have spent enough of long hours on DL, SR, KL and AY MD11's so that possibility is not really tempting enough for me now.


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

Quoting FFlyer (Reply 4):

Well, I have spent enough of long hours on DL, SR, KL and AY MD11's so that possibility is not really tempting enough for me now.

Same here, I think I have got my share of MD11. I rather wait couple of years, we'll probably see AY A330-300E flying JFK-HEL around 2009.


User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2666 times:

Quoting FFlyer (Thread starter):
I noticed that both DL and CO can be almost double the cost compared to KL and AF on the same dates!

Why is that a surprise? KL is the only one of those that actually flies its metal to HEL.



AY and ANA rock!
User currently offlineDL173 From Sweden, joined Sep 2007, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

You have to remember that for both CO and DL HEL is an offline market, which means paying expensive prorates
to other carriers for the connection to/from the DL/ CO gateway, especially as KL is the only SkyTeam carrier flying to HEL. Both OK and AF have codeshares on AY operated flights out of HEL. I don't think that either DL or CO has
any SPA agreements with AY. Example: The SPA agreement BW had when they existed cost SEK1100 each way ARN - LHR on SK connecting to their flight LHR - BGI before they ceased operations 31Dec06 and became Caribbean Airlines. SEK1100 x 2 equiv EUR 239 of the total fare.


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