LY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2456 posts, RR: 2 Posted (5 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 1562 times:
Are LY a/c younger than they really are? I mean, if LY works roughly 300 days per year (ie 82% of the year), can we say that their a/c are younger than they really are? Does this mean that a 767 that is 23 years old is in reality only 19 year-old?
Swiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 1547 times:
They still can leave TLV, say, on a Friday night, and fly over a Saturday. They won't land or depart TLV on Saturdays though. Again, they may leave JFK on a Saturday night and land Sunday morning. So they can operate 7/week.
LY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 851 posts, RR: 16 Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 1507 times:
Aircraft age is aircraft age. It's the number of cycles that count. If LY were to sell its aircraft, the new operator would be interested in how many cycles the aircraft had. Maintenance is usually measured this way also, for the exact reason you ask your question. Different airlines have different route frequencies, so calendar-year age is kept out of maintenance and aircraft life. Of couse, calendar year age does have an affect on potential corrosion, etc. that will happen regardless of the number of cycles. If the airplane sits on the ground, it's more likely to have potential corrosion if it's at an airport such as MIA (high humidity, salty air).
JasonMiller From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 23 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 1463 times:
Quoting B747forever (Reply 1): Has it something with the religion to do??
They don't fly on Saturdays.
Quoting Swiftski (Reply 2): They still can leave TLV, say, on a Friday night, and fly over a Saturday. They won't land or depart TLV on Saturdays though. Again, they may leave JFK on a Saturday night and land Sunday morning. So they can operate 7/week.
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22240 posts, RR: 51 Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1299 times:
While LY might only operate 6 days per week, the carrier does manage quite good utilization of its fleet.
For instance, from Boeing utilization statistics, El Al managed the following daily averages (365 day year) thru 2006.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21679 posts, RR: 23 Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1227 times:
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 8): While LY might only operate 6 days per week, the carrier does manage quite good utilization of its fleet.
One factor that increases utilization is LY's inability to overfly Arab countries on TLV-Asia routes which means much longer routings. I believe their TLV-BKK flights fly down the Red Sea and then make a left turn over the Indian Ocean, resulting in a flight time of almost 11 hours, 2 hours longer than RJ's AMM-BKK nonstops. TLV and AMM are 59 nm apart.
JasonMiller From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 23 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1191 times:
Quoting Swiftski (Reply 5): Rarely, you're right. The next I could find is this one.
06OCT 06OCT .....6. 2215 (TLV) 0415 (JFK) LY 033 777 0 EL AL
Quoting David_itl (Reply 6): IF they don't fly Saturdays, how come this is showing in the LHR timetable:
TodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2754 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1153 times:
....in any case, El Al's planes look rather "older than they really are"......
For instance, I was always impressed by the 2 737s El Al was operating, I flew on both of them numerous times between GVA and TLV; they looked very old already in the late 1980s, when they were not even 10 years old....
Maybe the management is calculating the age of its fleet in some kabbalistic way and comes to the conclusion that its antiquated 742s and outdated 767s are still the very best option available in the 21st century....and thus the "imminent fleet renewal plan" that never comes.....
I bitterly miss the livery that should never have been changed (repetition...)
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