LY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2603 posts, RR: 2 Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2064 times:
Are LY a/c younger than they really are? I mean, if LY works roughly 300 days per year (ie 82% of the year), can we say that their a/c are younger than they really are? Does this mean that a 767 that is 23 years old is in reality only 19 year-old?
Swiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2049 times:
They still can leave TLV, say, on a Friday night, and fly over a Saturday. They won't land or depart TLV on Saturdays though. Again, they may leave JFK on a Saturday night and land Sunday morning. So they can operate 7/week.
LY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 857 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2009 times:
Aircraft age is aircraft age. It's the number of cycles that count. If LY were to sell its aircraft, the new operator would be interested in how many cycles the aircraft had. Maintenance is usually measured this way also, for the exact reason you ask your question. Different airlines have different route frequencies, so calendar-year age is kept out of maintenance and aircraft life. Of couse, calendar year age does have an affect on potential corrosion, etc. that will happen regardless of the number of cycles. If the airplane sits on the ground, it's more likely to have potential corrosion if it's at an airport such as MIA (high humidity, salty air).
Quoting Swiftski (Reply 2): They still can leave TLV, say, on a Friday night, and fly over a Saturday. They won't land or depart TLV on Saturdays though. Again, they may leave JFK on a Saturday night and land Sunday morning. So they can operate 7/week.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 23900 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1729 times:
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 8): While LY might only operate 6 days per week, the carrier does manage quite good utilization of its fleet.
One factor that increases utilization is LY's inability to overfly Arab countries on TLV-Asia routes which means much longer routings. I believe their TLV-BKK flights fly down the Red Sea and then make a left turn over the Indian Ocean, resulting in a flight time of almost 11 hours, 2 hours longer than RJ's AMM-BKK nonstops. TLV and AMM are 59 nm apart.
TodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1655 times:
....in any case, El Al's planes look rather "older than they really are"......
For instance, I was always impressed by the 2 737s El Al was operating, I flew on both of them numerous times between GVA and TLV; they looked very old already in the late 1980s, when they were not even 10 years old....
Maybe the management is calculating the age of its fleet in some kabbalistic way and comes to the conclusion that its antiquated 742s and outdated 767s are still the very best option available in the 21st century....and thus the "imminent fleet renewal plan" that never comes.....
I bitterly miss the livery that should never have been changed (repetition...)