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United's Widebody Plans.  
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4466 posts, RR: 5
Posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 891 times:

I was just wondering if anyone had an inside scope on what United was planning with their widebodies. Currently they operate the Dc-10, 747, 767, and 777. What are their current orders for?


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 890 times:

Off the top of my head: United has orders for 24(?) 777's, 9(?) 747-400's and 4(?) 767-300's. The 767-300's have been and will replace the DC-10's on many routes (some are a two class 251-seat layout).

FLY777UAL


User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 890 times:

All I know is that in the future their entire widebody fleet will consist of:
B747-400
B767-300
B777-200

While their narrowbody fleet will consist of:
A319-100
A320-200
B757-200



User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4466 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 890 times:

Doesn't United also operate 767-200s? Also, what will happen to their 737-300/500s? I heard that they were looking at the 737NG. They do hold options for 153 737s.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 890 times:

UA operates 19 767-200's which will be staying in the fleet for quite a while. United will not order the NG's, as they have already chosen the Airbus A320/319 to be better suited for the mix of flights that UA has them assigned for. Options shmoptions...

FLY777UAL



User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 890 times:

Hey, I'm pretty sure, UA will replace all these very old A320s and A319s by B737NGs as they offer such a high range, such high comfort and such high cargo capacity. UA's coming home, wow!

Regards
Udo


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 889 times:

Did I detect a 'hint' of sarchasm there?!!!      

see ya UDO

FLY777UAL


User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 888 times:

Hey FLY777UAL,

I think you detected absolutely right. Sometimes IRONY is needed! It sweetens life...

Regards
Udo


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6672 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 889 times:

Hi United Airlines widebody orders are: 2 747-400, 8 767-300ER, 24 777-200ER.UA canceled orders for seven 747-400s when they ordered 9 more 777-200ERs recently, according to Flight International. As for narrowbody replacement, I think it will wait for awhile, but I think LH and UA may place an order for 733 and 735 replacement at the same time. I wouldn't rule out 737NGs or A318s.


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User currently offlineN777UA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 889 times:

United has chosen the Airbuses instead of the 737NG. The cabin is 7 inches wider at floor level, and is therefore more comfortable.

User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 889 times:

Thank you, N777UA! I was about to say, "How can you not rule out NG's when UA has already ordered a boatload of their competition!"

 

FLY777UAL


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6672 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 888 times:

Hi The A319s and A320s are replacing 727-200 and also replacing 737-300 and 737-500 on a lot of routes. They also fly new routes. I think it's a bit hasty to say what will replace 737-300 and 737-500s. ALso, It probably will be tie up wtihLufthansa/Star alliance. I like the A319 and the A320, but don't jump to conclusions of something that's yeaars away.Sincerely THe777Man


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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 888 times:

The A319's were also bought to replace the 737-200 aircraft, and eventually when the time comes (in a few years...) the A320 family (excluding the A321) will be replacing the early make 737-300/500 aircraft.

FLY777UAL


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4466 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 888 times:

Udo, how much I have missed you. Anyway I didin't say that United was going to order 737NGs I just said that they were looking at them as replacements for their shuttle aircraft. They are also looking at the A320 family obviously. I would find it hard to believe that United would order the 737NG but there have been statements that the 737 is better suited for the shuttle routes than the A320s. This information is from an orders site that is usually quite on the money.


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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (15 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 888 times:

CX747 wrote:
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there have been statements that the 737 is better suited for the shuttle routes than the A320s. -------------------------------
Certainly not the NG's! United and LH (among many other carriers) have found the NG's to be horribly ineffecient on short flights, such as what the United Shuttle would require. On the otherside, though, the NG's are more effecient than the A320 family (in particular the 737-800) on most other types of flights, ie: Transcon.

FLY777UAL


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4466 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 888 times:

Well, only time will tell what they will order. An order for the NG is unlikely but from the sources I mentioned above a possibility for shuttle routes. Do you have a list of the flights that all 737NGs are used on by carriers that operate them. I have a friend who flies 737NGs for CO and they use them on short haul sectors. It just depends on what variant of NG you use.


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User currently offlineMAC_Veteran From Taiwan, joined Jun 1999, 726 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 888 times:

Widebodies as in what mission?

I believe the next order round that could be coming from United are to address the DC-10's that will be gradually phased out. The prime candidate planes for replacing these are the Boeing 767-400 and the A330-200.

Now..given the way UAL has been quite pleased with the Airbus narrowbodies I'm wondering if they would be so bold as to go for the A330-200s and quite possibly explore the benefits of it's CCQ capabilities. It could happen.

On the other hand they are very committed to the 767, of course they could opt for the 767-400 as a natural progression. It's a question if UAL sees the existing 767 fleet as sufficient along with the 777, or if it's worth adding a new type to the fleet to cover that "middle area". It would be unique if they go for either type.

I believe they are awaiting the initial reaction and service experience garnered from CO and DL before any sort of commitment to the 767-400 is ever entered into, that's why the orders are so thin for that type at the moment. While at the same time they are most probably getting data on the A330-200s as it now enters it's second year of service. The service results from this type are reported to be quite excellent, with Emirates operating the largest fleet so far. Some anticipate EK to operate a fleet upwards of 30+ A330-200s.

Regards
MAC_Vet


User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 889 times:


Has I told in another topic, United is slowly knowing the way, now they've already the A319 and A320 and the next step I think ( and most of us think that too! ) is a good replacement for those old B. 767-200, they're almost 20 years old and I think that nothing better to replace them by the new A330-200 with P&W engines!!!
Great plane we have comming now!


User currently offlineMAC_Veteran From Taiwan, joined Jun 1999, 726 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 889 times:

CV990

The A330-200 would look handsome as ever in their livery and the role it would serve would be perfect. I really wonder if this is the next AI product UAL purchases. They could do it.

Regards
MAC_Vet


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