Nomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 4215 times:
Does anyone recal (or have photos) of TWA 747s operating out of Denver Stapleton Airport in the early 1970's
If I am correct, the 747 was used on a DEN/JFK/CDG/FCO routing. I was attending college at the University of Colorado at the time and I seem to remember ads in the Denver Post promoting the service "Only On TWA...same-plane 747 service to Europe!")
I also believe that the 747s did not stay on the route too long. There were problems taking off with a full load en route to New York on a hot summer day (read- mile-high field level and a runway not quite long enough )
If there are any of you that can cooborate any of this, I would love to hear from you.
Nomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3917 times:
As a follow up...anyone remember when TWA 'originated' ther round the world flights in Denver? It was during this same period. It was a 'through' flight number but with a change of equipment in New York.
Quickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3732 times:
I remember seeing L1011s and 767s at DIA in the mid 90s during ski season. 747s were never scheduled into DIA (not sure about Stapleton), but I do remember a 747 substitution into DIA once.
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3645 times:
I remember TWA routing 767's AND L-1011's from SLC to DEN
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N905TW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 40 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3603 times:
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 3): I remember TWA routing 767's AND L-1011's from SLC to DEN
You have a great memory..... That was flight 743.... JFK-DEN-SLC. A late evening arrival, which turned the next morning back the same way it arrived... Flight 742, SLC-DEN-JFK to connect to the European bank.....
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 30 Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3447 times:
**I remember sitting in the 94th Aero Squadron restaurant one evening...I saw two L1011s land within 20 minutes of each other on the east-wests.
**I know TWA had the 707 to JFK in the 1970s and maybe even 81-82.
**Pan Am did have a 747 on the DEN-JFK run in the early 1990s (Was this what you were thinking of?)
***PeoplExpress also had a 747 on the DEN-EWR run, before People was taken over...
***The only TWA 747 I've seen at Stapleton was the one that took the Broncos to England to play a football game (before the real season started) This was in the late 1980s when they lost three superbowls...
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Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5671 posts, RR: 29 Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3433 times:
Quoting Quickmover (Reply 2): I remember seeing L1011s and 767s at DIA in the mid 90s during ski season
I remember flying to and from DEN on TWA L1011s in the 1980s. I was young. My parents and I flew a lot to PIT from DEN then and many times it was on an L1011. I remember the flights were continuing to Europe. I forget where. I think CDG or LHR.
Quoting DIA (Reply 5): I remember sitting in the 94th Aero Squadron restaurant
That was a cool place. I remember going there with my dad.
Nomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3095 times:
Quoting DIA (Reply 5): **I know TWA had the 707 to JFK in the 1970s and maybe even 81-82.
I flew frequently between Denver & New York on TWA from 1970 through the mid 1980's and every flight was a 707. Some of them featured TWAs wonderful Ambassador service (with the 707 'Coach Lounge'.) At the other end of the scale, some of the Boeings were configured as all-economy 'Super Coach' flights.
The 747 service I mentioned at the top had to have been quite short-lived as I never had a chance to take advantage of the bigger plane.
FlyPIJets From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 822 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2915 times:
I have a few TW timetables from '75 and '76 - TW 810 was routed Denver --> Boston --> Paris --> Rome --> Athens --> Tel Aviv. It was not a widebody (747 or L1011) so I guess it was a 707. I'm betting the routing stayed the same during the regulated era, could be they used a 747 early on.
RyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 818 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2836 times:
Heyas,
Went thru Steve Gustafson's amazing Stapleton site and found these photos of TWA at Stapleton. Couldn't find any L-1011's or 747s; however, its fun to look back at these anyways -- Ryan
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WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2830 times:
God that Convair 880 looks fantastic!
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
Cross757 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 143 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2689 times:
Quoting DIA (Reply 8): I am always quick amazed (and pleased) to see just how many of us remember that restaurant...it certainly built a lot of memories over the years.
They served the best French Onion soup in town...and remember sitting at a table by the windows and getting to put on the headphones and listen to the tower controllers?
I was still somewhat young at the time, but we once took my grandmother to Stapleton in 1979/1980 for her flight back to BOI, and my Dad saw a 747 parked at one of the gates and took a picture through the glass of it. I can't remember what concourse/airline it was (could have been "B", therefore it would have been UA), but I'll dig around and see if I can find the photo again.
However on one of our many Saturday spotting trips to Stapleton with my Dad (remember the observation room between, if I remember correctly, between Concourse B and C?) I distinctly remember seeing a TWA 707 and a CO 707 as well. I miss those days...
Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6465 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2638 times:
Quoting DIA (Reply 5): Pan Am did have a 747 on the DEN-JFK run in the early 1990s
Looks like PA started DEN in May 1989 and dropped it between July and October of 1991. Anybody find a timetable/OAG showing a 747 on that run?
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 30 Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2618 times:
Quoting Timz (Reply 17): Looks like PA started DEN in May 1989 and dropped it between July and October of 1991. Anybody find a timetable/OAG showing a 747 on that run?
I've got photographic proof in my basement...with dates on the prints! Man I wish there were more spotters back then...
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Nomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2538 times:
In addition to all of my flights from DEN to the East Coast, I flew quite a bit DEN-SFO and these flights were almost always on a Convair. It is still one of my favorite aircraft.
Thanks for the photos!
P.S. Despite my interest in TWA, my only 747 flight out of Denver was with Continental - DEN-LAX in 1972.
Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6465 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2493 times:
Quoting DIA (Reply 5): Pan Am did have a 747 on the DEN-JFK run in the early 1990s
Airport Activity Stats shows a total of four PA 747 departures from DEN during the three years 1989-1991-- also one A310-300 and one A300. Substitutions or diversions? (Except two of the 747 departures were unscheduled flights, so presumably charters out of DEN.)
I checked maybe ten OAG/timetables-- all show 727s out of DEN.
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2426 times:
The only flights I ever took out of Stapleton were on TWA L-1011's 767's and MD-80's to JFK from SLC...
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
WA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2037 posts, RR: 13 Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2257 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 22): Did TWA have a around the world flight? Did they have any Asia service? I thought only Pan Am and for a short time United.
TWA's Europe routes extended as far as India and Bangkok in the 1950s and 1960s. In India, TWA was allowed to serve Mumbai, and Pan Am was allowed to serve Delhi.
In 1966, TWA was allowed to extend their European routes further east, to Hong Kong.
In 1969, TWA was allowed to fly around the world, routing Hong Kong-Taiwan-Okinawa-Guam-Honolulu-Los Angeles / San Francisco. However, TWA was not allowed to stop at Tokyo; the US government originally planned to give TWA Los Angeles / San Francisco - Tokyo authority, in competition with Pan Am, but the Japanese government would not allow another US airline into Tokyo, so the California - Tokyo authority went to Northwest Orient. The lack of Tokyo authority turned what might have been a profitable route for TWA into a highly unprofitable route.
TWA suspended their round the world flights in the mid 1970s, and gave their Asian route authority to Pan Am as part of a complicated route swap between TWA and Pan Am that also saw Pan Am dropping flights from Chicago, Boston, and Philadelphia to London, TWA pulling out of Frankfurt, Pan Am pulling out of Paris, TWA dropping Detroit - Europe flights, and Pan Am dropping New York - Lisbon-Barcelona. A separate swap between Pan Am and American saw AA suspending flights to Hawaii, Fiji, American Samoa, Australia, and New Zealand, in exchange for Pan Am giving AA their authority to serve Bermuda, the Dominican Republic, and Barbados.
MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6242 posts, RR: 51 Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2239 times:
PA ran JFK-DEN-SLC with 72S aircraft. 747's were likely equip. subs or charters.
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