LAXdude1023 From Lebanon, joined Sep 2006, 6779 posts, RR: 25 Posted (5 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 5748 times:
I was doing some work today and I was looking at flights to DXB. It looks like EK is upgrading IAH service to 5x weekly at the end of January, and then going daily in Febuary.
WE 30JAN HOU / DXB +10:00 HR
DL 8 S T W S 08JAN-09FEB IAHDXB 410P 705P+ CHG 1
UL 2312 S M W F S 28JAN-03FEB IAHDXB 625P 735P+ 77L *0
EK 212 S M W F S 28JAN-03FEB IAHDXB 625P 735P+ 77L 0
WE 20FEB HOU / DXB +10:00 HR
DL 8 S T W S 12FEB-08MAR IAHDXB 410P 705P+ CHG 1
UL 2312 S M T W T F S 04FEB-08MAR IAHDXB 625P 735P+ 77L *0
EK 212 S M T W T F S 04FEB-08MAR IAHDXB 625P 735P+ 77L 0
I havent seen a press relase, but seats are for sell on all of the dates.
I appologize if this has been discussed, I looked and couldnt see if it had been.
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Da man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 5662 times:
This was planned from the beginning of the route when EK announced it. They decided to start the route with the aircraft they had and then ramp-up to daily when they had more 77Ls.
N77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 5583 times:
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 5): I'm talking about the lounge full of red-neck Halliburton oil barons!
Hardly. Along with their expertise in the oil service industry, these are extremely savvy negotiaters and playmakers when it comes to making deals. With their connections and access, it makes the difference between meeting with another middle east oil ministry flunky, and the emir himself, when a major contract is on the line.
102IAHexpress From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1154 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5510 times:
Quoting Da man (Reply 3): This was planned from the beginning of the route when EK announced it.
Indeed, It was annouced from the very begining.
But I'm getting conflicting answers about a CO codeshare on this route, anyone have the definative world on that?
CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 63 Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5496 times:
Quoting N77014 (Reply 6): Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 5):
I'm talking about the lounge full of red-neck Halliburton oil barons!
Hardly. Along with their expertise in the oil service industry, these are extremely savvy negotiaters and playmakers when it comes to making deals. With their connections and access, it makes the difference between meeting with another middle east oil ministry flunky, and the emir himself, when a major contract is on the line.
Have you seen Syriana?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
Sure. Just a Hollywood movie. If movies reflected real life, Tokyo would have been plowed over dozens of times by Godzilla already.
As far as choice of aircraft, EK wants the best performing aircraft for the route, and the ability to carry tons of time sensitive oil and gas equipment on the shortest available route will be critical here.
CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 63 Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5431 times:
Quoting N77014 (Reply 10): Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 9):
Have you seen Syriana?
Sure. Just a Hollywood movie
Just asking.
Quoting N77014 (Reply 10): As far as choice of aircraft, EK wants the best performing aircraft for the route, and the ability to carry tons of time sensitive oil and gas equipment on the shortest available route will be critical here.
...and the fact that they bought the 77L specially, and rostered their A345s elsewhere. Does EK SkyCargo fly to IAH yet?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
N77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5405 times:
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 11): ...and the fact that they bought the 77L specially, and rostered their A345s elsewhere. Does EK SkyCargo fly to IAH yet?
Have yet to see their aircraft, although that might change once the passenger air service begins.
Keep in mind IAH is not just an energy company HQ; it also is home to industrial companies that produce diamond studded drill bits to imaging software used by prospectors in the search for oil. With CO's middle east route network a bit thin on their own metal, this is a good opportunity for EK SkyCargo to make a dent.
CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 63 Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 5358 times:
Quoting N77014 (Reply 12): Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 11):
...and the fact that they bought the 77L specially, and rostered their A345s elsewhere. Does EK SkyCargo fly to IAH yet?
Have yet to see their aircraft, although that might change once the passenger air service begins.
Keep in mind IAH is not just an energy company HQ; it also is home to industrial companies that produce diamond studded drill bits to imaging software used by prospectors in the search for oil. With CO's middle east route network a bit thin on their own metal, this is a good opportunity for EK SkyCargo to make a dent.
Oh totally yeah - im not disputing that. EK are going to absolutely clean up on that route. I'm surprised EY havent looked at it as well. Maybe QR may consider it when they get their 77Ls?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
Not at the moment. The only Cargo heading directly to the Middle East from IAH, to my knowledge, is the services performed by Global Supply Systems about twice a week at this time with their B747-400Fs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's flown on behalf of BA Cargo and it eventually heads to Sharjah.
Saudia also has B747-200F services through Ostend on a 1-2 x weekly service as well.
JSD
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Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3723 posts, RR: 25 Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months ago) and read 5202 times:
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 13): Maybe QR may consider it when they get their 77Ls?
QR execs have made a number of visits to H-Town in the past and HAS (Houston Airports Systems) have publicly announced that talks are in progress. Though I suspect they are likely going to observe EK's IAH ops for a year or so to measure how the route works out.
LAXdude1023 From Lebanon, joined Sep 2006, 6779 posts, RR: 25 Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months ago) and read 5158 times:
Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 8): But I'm getting conflicting answers about a CO codeshare on this route, anyone have the definative world on that?
Ive been wondering this from the get go. It would be nice for the CO FF's because otherwise they wont get Elite Qualifying miles. I sure hope they do, but would it be in CO's best interest?
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Yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5157 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months ago) and read 5107 times:
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 18): I sure hope they do, but would it be in CO's best interest?
But not be in EK's, so they might not......why would EK want all these skyteam member getting CO FF miles, only to have CO pull the rug from under them once the 787s come on board.
you can bet your bottom dollar that CO is itching to launch IAH-DXB, IAH-KWI and IAH-Lagos
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
NateDAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 416 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5031 times:
Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 7):
And I have no doubt it wll go 2Xdaily before a year is complete on the route...
I think so too.
Some here have said that the bookings are already very strong, particularly in premium classes. Can anyone verify this?
Wdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 958 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5021 times:
CO won't be able to compete with EK on the IAH-DXB route... continentals BizFirst product is nothing compaired to EK or almost any other European carrier who all operate routes into IAH. Don't get me wrong I like CO alot and I am from Houston.. but EK will have the upper hand here
Yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5157 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4978 times:
Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 21): CO won't be able to compete with EK on the IAH-DXB route... continentals BizFirst product is nothing compaired to EK or almost any other European carrier who all operate routes into IAH. Don't get me wrong I like CO alot and I am from Houston.. but EK will have the upper hand here
Don't be so sure.......two words.....Corporate Contracts.....
My brother works for an oil company and the firms policy is fly CO (aka Skyteam) whenever possible...so he flies CO to POS and AF/KL to LOS/KWI/LAD and those other hairy places. He only flies BA etc when they can't get a Business Class seat on the day he needs.....which is more often than you think....
He told me he once flew on BA IAH-ORD-LHR . The premium cabin was overbooked and economy only had 2 pax on the IAH-ORD segment. BA offered him 2 roundtrips to take the downgrade..which he took
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
Triley1057 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 1999, 445 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4847 times:
Quoting NateDAL (Reply 20): you can bet your bottom dollar that CO is itching to launch IAH-DXB, IAH-KWI and IAH-Lagos
The thing is I doubt CO would start these routes from IAH. They would launch "convenient" one-stop services through EWR. When they previously applied for LOS, it was from EWR and not IAH. If they keep expanding out of EWR rather than IAH, then other carriers are going to come take their place at IAH. Just look at EK, City Star airlines starting service to ABZ, Arik Air planning on serving IAH from LOS, etc.
25 Thomasphoto60: I don't know, they gave IAH the cold shoulder when the first applied for the LOS via EWR a few years back. Th did not even consider (at least publicl
26 Amax1977: Any good news on nonstop DXB-SFO??? Thanks...
27 Wdleiser: I am not going to lie.. that would just be awesome!
28 Worldrider: that's a point of view, along many and different points of view.
29 UAEflyer: This company will move to DXB early next year.
30 Jacobin777: ...probably not happening for another couple of years unfortunately...I see LAX and ORD on the list first....
31 Yellowtail: Don't think the Big bus can make it non-stop to IAH.....
32 ABQopsHP: A good number of oil company employees from CRP go via IAH and AMS to get to DXB. This will take away the stop in AMS, Europe, or North American East
33 A360: Well, the DXB-IAH (longest leg) will take 17 hours. EWR-HKG (772-ER) is 16 hours (and that route is flown also (from JFK by an A346), so it will be 1
34 A360: Anyway, when it comes to Emirates using the 380 in the US, I guess the most "confortable" routes for it would be the East Coast and possible Chicago..
35 Drerx7: Those are just high level jobs though - the bulk of the work force will still be in Houston.
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