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AC 767 Incident At YYZ Right Now?  
User currently offlineNRA-3B From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 167 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12835 times:

I just got a text message from my son, Kevin. He just landed at YYZ and said there is an AC 767 on the runway (didn't say which) with fire trucks all around. He also said he was in atc holding for 10-15 before landing. Anybody see anything about this on the news yet?

Cheers,
Bob

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User currently offlineLrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12793 times:

Flightaware said a AC 762 just landed from flight 423 from YUL. It landed about 20 min. ago as of this post. Probley just some glitch. It looks like it may have circled the airport because it departed 30 min. late, but arrived 1.5 hrs late. Bottom line, all a/c might of been going in to holding patterns and the a/c could of started to run out of fuel. Maybe. Theres nothing in the media about it so it can't be to bad. Also, this flight usually seems to run late. Hope this helps. Peace Out.


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User currently offlineNRA-3B From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12730 times:

Just talked to Kevin a moment ago, He said the aircraft is still on the runway, and the ground crew was fussing around, probably trying to move it. That's all he could tell me right now, they were busy putting their airplane to bed. He will let me know more later if he can....

Cheers,
Bob


User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12663 times:

It looks like AC878 to Zurich, a 763, turned around over Quebec and went back to YYZ.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA878


User currently offlineBoeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1844 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 12432 times:

This is interesting. If there was some sort of issue why did they turn back to YYZ instead of just going to YUL or YOW?

User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12288 times:

Quoting NRA-3B (Thread starter):
Kevin. He just landed at YYZ and said there is an AC 767 on the runway (didn't say which) with fire trucks all around.

Saw this as I was coming off shift at 1930 tonight. It was either sitting on 33R/15L or the Echo taxiway. At least three fire trucks (that I could see) as well as various other emergency and airport authority vehicles surrounding it.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25983 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12191 times:

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 4):
This is interesting. If there was some sort of issue why did they turn back to YYZ instead of just going to YUL or YOW?

Possibly because AC has more late departures from YYZ to several other points in Europe (FRA/CDG/LHR) than from YUL which may have made it easier to reroute passengers if the ZRH flight had to be cancelled. ZRH is one of their earlier departures from YYZ I believe.

If they went to YUL or YOW the passengers might be stuck overnight. Obviously in an emergency they would divert to the nearest suitable airport.


User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12191 times:

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 4):
This is interesting. If there was some sort of issue why did they turn back to YYZ instead of just going to YUL or YOW?

Burn off a bit more fuel, perhaps?


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12145 times:

Yes it would be quite easy to be put on one of the late flights to LHR and connect through to ZRH. However if it is still on the taxiway, for that to happen though the passengers would have had to deplane on the taxiway and their baggage removed the same way. Availability of spare aircraft, crew's home base and a number of other factors could have come into play in choosing to return to YYZ. Obviously not a serious enough problem to warrant an immediate landing. Any landing with warning lights etc. of sufficient nature require the firetrucks to be dispatched.

User currently offlineLailaiYYZ From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11695 times:

It should be ACA084. It landed about 6:30pm-ish EDT.

I was listening to ATC while driving home from work. ACA1130 flying above it reported some trail of smoke (as far as I can recall listening). It landed on Runway 15 (probably 15L). I worked under the approach path of runway 15 however, I just leave workd 15 minutes before it happened.. Missed seeing what had happened on the plane.


User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11582 times:

Listening to the liveatc archives last night for 2200-2300z. Apparently, from what I can piece together, ACA084 had, what the tower termed as a "considerable amount", a fuel spill as it departed 24R last night. The runway was subsequently closed for a while and arriving traffic diverted to 15R while the runway was inspected.

You can here ACA084 make a call about having the emergency vehicles available in case they were still venting fuel here: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/cy...CYYZ-Toronto-Sep-24-2007-2230Z.mp3 (at the 5:03 mark he makes the call).



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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 10401 times:

How often do aircraft "vent fuel"? I have heard of dumping to fuel to meet landing weights in an emergency, but not this.


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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8498 times:

The aircraft arriving from YYZ today was C-FMWV with more than 5 hours delay. Is it the same aircraft that had the incident or was there an equipment change after all?

User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6382 times:

The incident involved AC084 which is not YYZ-ZRH but rather YYZ-TLV.

User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6147 times:

Quoting ChrisA330 (Reply 13):
The incident involved AC084 which is not YYZ-ZRH but rather YYZ-TLV.

Well, why did the Zurich flight turn around?


User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5866 times:

Quoting Sebring (Reply 14):
Well, why did the Zurich flight turn around?

No idea - however the incident that the thread is referring to is AC 084. Or perhaps I should say the flight that left a considerable amount of fuel on the departure runway, circled back, requested emergency services and landed on 15L is AC084.


User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Perhaps the considerable amount of fuel for a YYZ-TLV flight caused a pipe/tank to crack and leak?


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User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3956 times:

Quoting MattRB (Reply 5):
Saw this as I was coming off shift at 1930 tonight. It was either sitting on 33R/15L or the Echo taxiway. At least three fire trucks (that I could see) as well as various other emergency and airport authority vehicles surrounding it.

I saw this as well - I was on an AA 737 waiting to depart YYZ-LAX. We were taxing northbound to the northern most East-West Runway, when we first noticed several emergency vehicles of various shapes and sizes waiting side by side on our right, all flashing many red lights, as if they were waiting to see if they would be summoned to the emergency. We sat there for about 10 minutes before moving again.

Then two fire trucks raced past us on our left, southbound down either RW33 or the taxiway next to it. I couldn't see where they were going until we lined up facing west to take off. As we took off I could see the large twin in the distance in AC colors with many emergency vehicles around it. It did not seem to be moving. I thought it was a 330 because it looked larger than a 767, but it was several thousand feet away. It was dusk by this time.

I figured there would be a post about this once I got back to L.A.

Ironically, when my flight landed, we landing on 24R (is that correct - the Northern most runway?) and we waited quite a while before making our way to the gate. Finally the captain said they were waiting for ground crews to "move an emergency A/C," whatever that means...



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User currently offlineATHYEG333 From Greece, joined Jun 2007, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3822 times:

sorry but I am a little confused!
can anyone tell us EXACTLY what happened?


User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 17):
24R (is that correct - the Northern most runway?)

That would be RWY 23. RWYs 24R & 24L are both situated at the south end of the field



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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Quoting Sebring (Reply 14):

Well, why did the Zurich flight turn around?

Maybe this flight was only delayed on the ground due to technical problem with the aircraft / late arrival etc and didn't take off before?


User currently offlinePsyops From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3501 times:

From Transport Canada report:

"The Air Canada Boeing 767-300 series aircraft (operating as ACA084) was departing on a scheduled IFR flight from Toronto (LBPIA) (CYYZ) to Tel Aviv (Ben Gurion) International Airport (Israel) (LLBG). Shortly after departure (2224Z) from Toronto (LBPIA) runway 24R, it was determined that the aircraft was leaking/venting fuel even before departure. Air Traffic Control (ATC) cleared the aircraft into a hold at 5 ,000 feet to burn more fuel before returning to the point of departure. ACA084 landed without incident on runway 15L at Toronto (LBPIA) at 2254Z (winds were 170º at eight (8) knots). Some tires blew during the landing and the aircraft stopped on the runway. The passengers were deplaned with airstairs and taken by bus to the terminal. ATC and the Greater Toronto Airport Authority (G.T.A.A.) handled the situation as a declared emergency."


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25983 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

Quoting Psyops (Reply 21):
From Transport Canada report:

Could you please advise the link to the Transport Canada incident reports site where you obtained that AC incident report. I often refer to the US FAA and NTSB incident/accident report sites but have never been able to find the equivalent Transport Canada site (except the TSB site with final reports of major accidents). Thanks for the information.


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