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WTF.. Boy Survives Flight Hanging On Wing?  
User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2000 posts, RR: 23
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16744 times:
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Did a search and didn't come back with anything on this... This is beyond bizarre, to the point of incredible. The news report cannot be accurate. How is this possible?

A 15-year-old boy from the Urals suffered acute frostbite after riding the wing of a Boeing-737 plane on a two-hour flight from Perm to Moscow, Russian radio station Mayak reported on Monday.

After clinging on for the entire 1300-kilometer (808-mile) flight to Vnukova Airport, the boy, named Andrei, collapsed onto the tarmac. His arms and legs were so severely frozen that rescuers were at first unable to remove his coat and shoes, the radio station said.

The airport did not confirm the report. "We have no information on this," the Vnukovo press service told RIA Novosti.

However, Moscow's air and water transport control department said the radio's claim was true.


For full story, see http://www.en.rian.ru/russia/20070924/80694850.html


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User currently offlineLrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16696 times:

How would you be able to hold on to a slick, apparently icy surface for two hours. That does not make any sense. Furthermore, if he was so icy, wouldn't his fingers stop holding onto what ever they were . finally, don't you think a pax or pa would see him? I'll bet you $1000 (monopoly money), that this is totally false. That's pretty much impossible. You're right WTF?  scratchchin   worried 


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User currently offlineSkyguyB727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16697 times:

It can't be true. The guy would have passed out and died from hypoxia and then been blown off the wing from the wind.

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30899 posts, RR: 87
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16685 times:
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More BS Soviet Propaganda.  Smile

They have to one-up the folks who fly inside the wheel-wells, so they claim they can do it on the outside of the plane.  rotfl 


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16661 times:

This is the same story, translated incorrectly, about the boy in the wheel well of the wing for 2 hours. He didn't "ride on the wing" but "in the wing."

There is already a thread about this...  Smile



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30899 posts, RR: 87
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16614 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
This is the same story, translated incorrectly, about the boy in the wheel well of the wing for 2 hours. He didn't "ride on the wing" but "in the wing."

That is kind of what I was thinking - had to be "in the wing" somehow (or, wingbox, in reality).


User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2741 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 16277 times:

 rotfl 

Just

 rotfl 



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 16196 times:

"MOSCOW, September 24 (RIA Novosti) - A 15-year-old boy from the Urals suffered acute frostbite after riding the wing of a Boeing-737 plane on a two-hour flight from Perm to Moscow, Russian radio station Mayak reported on Monday."

Comrades, I think we have a classic case of "something lost in the translation" here.

While some have construed "riding the wing" as being the wing's upper surface (an obviously impossible situation for the many reasons already given), I suspect the original situation was actually one where the boy was attempting to ride in the main gear well. Some may have erroneously conclude that "the wing" of the 737 runs from wingtip-to-wingtip, straight through the fuselage, and be oblivious that the main gear well even exists.

Not that there's much room inside a main gear well, but then again, it was a 15 year-old boy. Was he a small one? The tireburst screens on the 737s disappeared about a year or two after the 733s came out, so maybe there was just enough room for this teen to avoid getting killed by the retracting gear, not that the cold and hypoxia did him any good.

[Edited 2007-09-26 01:06:51]

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26935 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 16176 times:

It did sound a bit off the wall but nothing surprises me these days. Thanks for the laugh LOL....

User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 16037 times:

LOL for real on this one.

Quoting Lrdc9 (Reply 1):
don't you think a pax or pa would see him?

Haha



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User currently offlineSFORunner From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 16005 times:

Quoting Lrdc9 (Reply 1):
finally, don't you think a pax or pa would see him?

Of course!



User currently offlineToast From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15998 times:

Definitely a mistranslation. The French and Spanish versions both say "inside the wing", which I can only presume was supposed to mean in the main gear well between the wings. Unless he rode in the wing's fuel tanks?  scratchchin 

Still hard to believe, though. How much free space can there be in a 737 gear well?


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15942 times:

Quoting Toast (Reply 11):
How much free space can there be in a 737 gear well?

Not much....

http://www.b737.org.uk/wheelwell.htm


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15924 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 7):
While some have construed "riding the wing" as being the wing's upper surface (an obviously impossible situation for the many reasons already given), I suspect the original situation was actually one where the boy was attempting to ride in the main gear well.

There is no reason to guess at anything. There is ALREADY A THREAD ON THIS and the boy was inside the wheel well of the 737, one of the main gear (not the nose).

The OP said he did a search, I pointed out there was another thread about it already, so he didn't search that hard...  Wink



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15806 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
The OP said he did a search, I pointed out there was another thread about it already, so he didn't search that hard...

The story he found is different than the "other" thread...regardless if the story was wrong.



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User currently offlineJerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 253 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 15416 times:

This boy is VERY lucky to be alive.

http://www.russiatoday.ru/features/news/14724

http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/4809/

The youngster had managed to sneak into a niche in the jet’s wing without being noticed by airport authorities in Perm airport in Russia's Volga district

http://newsfromrussia.com/society/stories/25-09-2007/97676-boeing-0

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstor...ve-boy-in-jet-wing-89520-19842112/

Looks like he might be losing both of his hands. The last link mentions the boy stowed away inside the landing gear of a Boeing 373. The other links mention he rode out the flight in a niche in the jet's wing and a few articles mention he was 'clinging' to the wing.

I wonder if we'll ever really know the exact story...



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User currently offlineRemcor From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 15291 times:

Quoting SFORunner (Reply 10):

Of course!

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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 15270 times:

Quoting Jerion (Reply 15):
The youngster had managed to sneak into a niche in the jet’s wing

Maybe this will open up a new niche market for those desiring a new type of aeronautical challenge.


User currently offlineElpinDAB From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 473 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 15076 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 17):
Maybe this will open up a new niche market for those desiring a new type of aeronautical challenge.

 Silly
Maybe along with mega-extreme skydiving without a parachute.
I actually heard a story, from Russia too, where somebody did survive a fall from 30,000 ft...

Amazing that the wing niche kid came out alive too! Seems too often that you hear of people dying while attempting this.


User currently offlineHowSwedeitis From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 15029 times:
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Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 7):
Reply 7

I agree.

Now, if it WAS on the wing.... that'd be a case for the MythBusters!!  Wink



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User currently offlineMATURRO727 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 14844 times:

WOW thats impressive

he is really lucky to be alive cause if he was in the main gear the temperature out there probably could have been something like -20º to -30ºC because if it was a 2 hour flight, then the altitude must have been something like 30.000ft. Besides how can you breath sufficient amount of oxygen at that altitude????
cause if i'm not wrong the 733 doesn't have main gear doors. or at least doors that cover up the tire itself.



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User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2000 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 14359 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
The OP said he did a search, I pointed out there was another thread about it already, so he didn't search that hard...


Save the glib comments dude. I searched terms such as stowaway, runaway, Russian child, Perm, Vnukovo and nothing came up. Where is this other thread?



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 13881 times:

Must have strong arms. Big grin

If this was possible I am sure we had seen it in a Bruce Willis movie already.


User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 13731 times:

Quoting MATURRO727 (Reply 20):
cause if i'm not wrong the 733 doesn't have main gear doors. or at least doors that cover up the tire itself.

Doors or not, the main wheel well is outside of the pressure hull. On a B747, A340 or any other jet you wish to pick, he'd have suffered a similar fate... Very cold and very little in the way of oxygen. One possibility is that if you look where the plane was departing (Urals) it is already very cold and the boy was probably wearing thick clothing (in comparison to the people who try and ride from africa wearing nothing but their thin cotton clothes.

The wheel well is also a VERY scary place to be. Can you imagine for a young boy how terrifying it would be to have the wheels coming in towards you. They wouldn't be spinning but would definatly be making a racket. Heck, i shit myself everytime i'm in the wheel well and someone switches the electric pump on.

Interesting read non the less...



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User currently offlineGeorgebush From New Zealand, joined Jul 2006, 679 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 13607 times:

Ture or not, this give a new definition to "Low Cost Carrier"


Al Gore invented global warming.
25 APChigoSea : Believe it or not, there is more room than realized in the main gear well of a 737. I have been in the well many times to repair fasteners and structu
26 Post contains images InbarD : May be the kid is like superman or something. But seriously if that is real that's pretty unbelievable, as he probably would of froze and he probably
27 Mika : " target=_blank>http://www.b737.org.uk/wheelwell.htm It's pretty easy to understand how incredibly complex the systems of a modern airliner is when se
28 Chrisjdurber : Best end this thread, if BA think people can survive on the outside of the aircraft they'll probably................. WORLD TRAVELLER MINUS ' Feel The
29 Ogre727 : What is with this forum that some people think it is a horrible crime to post something that has been posted before? You know, some people (like me)
30 Soon7x7 : Last Sunday Mahmood Ahmadinejad flew into New York directly over my head as I was on my sailboat, but surprisingly, he being a man of stature I was ta
31 Aogdesk : Oh Miss....(as in F/A) ...i just noticed that there's a boy out on the wing. (Flight Attendant bends down and peers out of window) "Oh, thats just Bil
32 OzTech : I agree mate... Unfortunately some on this site are not to accomodating of us "mere mortals" who were not blessed with the superpowers some of our pe
33 BeechNut : There is a possibility that the hypothermia in fact helped him survive as it would significantly reduce his oxygen demand. There have been cases of p
34 SkyexRamper : yeah......mmmmmm......the kid what be dead...sooo..wtf is right.
35 Post contains images DeltaDC9 : Yes, the search engine on this site being so effective and all.....   What he said! Could this have been a factor in him not freezing solid?[Edited
36 APChigoSea : Not being a pilot, I will try to answer accuratly : The apu duct is not in use in flight itself. It mainly supplies air to start the main engines on
37 PYP757 : Great reply! Couldn't have said it better myself. I think some people take this far too seriously, and spend far too much time in these forums!
38 Orion737 : Was he trying to deliver a box of Milk Tray???? haha
39 Post contains images B6JFKH81 : How is it possible that he didn't get hypoxia? I cannot recall a 737 doing a flight that long under 12,000ft LOL! This is really puzzling me.
40 Soon7x7 : I just learned last week that in some cases APU on 737's are mandated during flight to keep a second generator on line in the event that one of the g
41 Post contains images RIHNOSAUR : Five stars for this picture..... I love the old twilight zone!!! and this is a classic episode..very appropriate for this thread!!!! maybe only you s
42 OPNLguy : This presumes thats the boy got into the gear well while the aircraft was still at the gate/hardstand. I kind of doubt that, since there are still ra
43 Mnik101 : My guess is that the boy was in the wheel well, and thethe reportes probably got the information mixed up.
44 GeorgeJetson : I agree. I once started a new thread and it was deleted by the A.net police supposetly because "There was already a thread on this". However, I never
45 APChigoSea : By saying more room than realized, I still agree that there is not an abundance of room. As far as hand holds,there are plenty as there is an extensi
46 Post contains images GeorgeJetson : What is a Boeing 373? Was that the predecessor of the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser? LOL
47 Soon7x7 : If you are running two engines and either one fails therefore killing off that engines generator then apparently it is required to fire up the apu in
48 SSTsomeday : This is what I suspected. It seems to be a case of inaccurate reporting, fueled by an over-active imagination on the part of the reporter. Incredible
49 AsstChiefMark : It IS a crime. If you do it more than three times, you get a life sentence in front of a firing squad.
50 Soon7x7 : They duct tape you to a wing of a 737 and fly 530 MPH...!
51 Post contains images HowSwedeitis : So, you have to wait in front of a firing squad for the rest of your life? I didn't see the other post...
52 OPNLguy : This is all true, and although I understand that someone brought it up in the context of the duct being too warm/hot etc. for the stowaway inside the
53 Soon7x7 : Happened a week and a half ago with a continental 737...took off this way...ended up putting down at Spokane Int'l instead of Seattle.
54 OPNLguy : I'll assume that means that you departed XYZ-SEA with a generator inop, but why did you end up in GEG instead of SEA? Did the generator on the remain
55 SSTsomeday : I wonder if it's stupidity that galvanises a person into trying this, or perhaps a bravado that's born of desperation I can't comprehend, coupled with
56 Post contains links Cruiser : Reading about the kid flying 'on the wing' reminded me of BA Flight 5390. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390 [Edited 2007-10-02
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