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Question Regard JFK-Hong Kong Flight Timing  
User currently offlineLVICS From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 86 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Perhaps this is a dumb question, but I honestly don't know the answer. So far, I've only flown eastbound longhaul from Europe to South America, and all those flights have been overnight (at the present time there are some daylight flights from Europe to SouthAm, too). Here's the question: I'm scheduled to fly JFK-Hong Kong, departing at 10.15 and arriving at 14.00, one day later. Is this a redeye or a daylight flight?
Thanks in advance for your answers.

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User currently offlineLailaiYYZ From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

My un-educated guess.. is that, since the Flight usually flys the Polar 1 route, and say if you are travelling in the winter time, you see more starlight than daylight. And if you fly in the summer, you see more daylight than starlight.

Since you depart at 10am and arrive at 2pm.. you probably get a bit more daylight than starlight..

Your eyes will be red no matter what after a 15+ hours of flight.. good luck!  Smile


User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2849 times:

Quoting LailaiYYZ (Reply 1):
Since you depart at 10am and arrive at 2pm.. you probably get a bit more daylight than starlight..

Sounds very correct.
You basically fly in the middle of the day all the way, local time, so should be a daylight flight.
You never see the night, but have to switch date as you pass the dateline on the way.



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User currently offlineZentraedi From Japan, joined Jun 2007, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

Not related to daylight, but if you're in economy on that flight, you might have trouble sleeping on the way back. I've taken the ORD-HKG flight a few times and on the return trip we always had about a dozen families bringing back newly adopted baby girls.

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

Are you taking the new morning CX JFK-HKG flight?

User currently offlineLVICS From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2565 times:

Thank you for your answers.

I have just realized I made a mistake in my original post: when you travel from Europe to South America you fly westbound!!  boggled 
Now, when you fly from NY to HK, do you fly easbound or westbound?  scratchchin 

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 2):
You never see the night, but have to switch date as you pass the dateline on the way.

Yes, I was aware about the date thing, but wasn't sure about "seeing the night" while flying.

Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 3):
Not related to daylight, but if you're in economy on that flight, you might have trouble sleeping on the way back. I've taken the ORD-HKG flight a few times and on the return trip we always had about a dozen families bringing back newly adopted baby girls.

Oops... No idea about that, thanks!

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 4):
Are you taking the new morning CX JFK-HKG flight?

Yes, it is CX. I don't know whether it's a new flight. It's scheduled for next April on a 777. Yes, I know, it's a lot of time from now, but I'm anxious  hyper 


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6708 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2494 times:

Quoting LVICS (Thread starter):
JFK-Hong Kong, departing at 10.15 and arriving at 14.00,

Except right near the endpoints your longitude en route will probably always be between the longitudes of NY and HKG. So your local time will always be between 1015 and 1400-- so all daylight, in April.


User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6533 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2367 times:

Quoting LVICS (Reply 5):
Yes, it is CX. I don't know whether it's a new flight.

It is iindeed a new flight. First one leaves HKG November 15th and is the first longhaul route for our new 777-300ERs, the first of which is due for delivery a day and a half from now.


User currently offlineSh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 7):
First one leaves HKG November 15th and is the first longhaul route for our new 777-300ERs,

What kind of PTV / AVOD and seat width are Cathay getting on the 300ER for that long 16 hour flight to and from Hong Kong? How is the transpacific service these days with CX? Are most people happy with the experience?


User currently offlineXXXX10 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

I would imagine that flying in April you (close to the equinox) flying over the arctic circle you would experiance mostly daylight but some darkness as you go further north. The same journey in July would be all daylight and in December all Night -time

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6708 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

Quoting XXXX10 (Reply 9):
some darkness as you go further north.

Draw a "triangle" on the earth-- the meridian thru NY, from the equator to the pole, and the meridian thru HKG, from the equator to the pole, and the equator between the two meridians (the shorter arc, not the one thru the Indian Ocean). As long as you stay in that triangle you'll get no darkness in April.


User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6533 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2004 times:

Quoting Sh0rtybr0wn (Reply 8):
What kind of PTV / AVOD and seat width are Cathay getting on the 300ER for that long 16 hour flight to and from Hong Kong? How is the transpacific service these days with CX? Are most people happy with the experience?

Can't say I know what seat width the seats will have. This will not only be the first 777-300ER but also the first 777 in the new cabin configuration. As for PTVs, obviously there are, and there is now AVOD in all classes as well, which should please everyone. CX still provides a top quality service and most people must be happy with it because our flights are almost always full to everywhere!!


User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

Quoting LVICS (Reply 5):
Now, when you fly from NY to HK, do you fly easbound or westbound? scratchchin

Depending on the winds aloft it could be either. Usually westbound but eastbound is possible. I watch from time to time the track of CX831 and CO99 out of NYC to HKG on Flightstat.com and flightaware .com. The initial heading usually tells you wish way they plan to fly it.
I remember one day when one carrier was going one way and the other, the other way.  scratchchin 


User currently offlineLVICS From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

Thank you all for your answers. So it will be daylight all time.
I'll try to take a nap... if possible, a long one... it'll be sixteen hours on board!!!  eek 


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