Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22019 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6267 times:
There is a master thread with all of DLs announced expansion today. Probably be more appropriate to discuss there DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow (by Positiverate Sep 25 2007 in Civil Aviation)
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Dbo861 From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 792 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5590 times:
Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 5): For the 1000 time on a.net, there is no such thing as a 757-200ER, it is a 757-200 ETOPS.
757-200ER is how Delta differentiates the 752s with ETOPS from their 752s without the ETOPS.
SWALUVFA From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 272 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5536 times:
Quoting Skibum9
"For the 1000 time on a.net, there is no such thing as a 757-200ER, it is a 757-200 ETOPS."
For the sake of this topic........Who the f**k cares?
Willyj From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 466 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5519 times:
Again, will it be seasonal? also, will DL have businesselite on their transatlantic 752s?
Runway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2037 posts, RR: 40 Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5473 times:
Quoting Willyj (Reply 8): Again, will it be seasonal? also, will DL have businesselite on their transatlantic 752s?
No idea on the seasonality. Will probably depend on how well it performs during the summer. Malaga will have businesselite equipped 757s.
UPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5392 times:
Quoting RAFVC10 (Thread starter): Has anyone heard anything about the rumour of CO to start services to PMI and AGP?
What's your opinion? Will be a profitable route?
Loads might be OK, yields I'm not quite sure, filling a 4xweekly 752 should be achievable, specially without competition. The issue will be the loads upfront since AGP is a leisure route. I'd assume that americans coming to AGP area for vacation are the wealthy ones.
IMO, it'd be the wrong decision from CO to start serve AGP after DL gets established there, they should look elsewhere or at least wait to see how DL's performs at the beginning.
Quoting BBADXB (Reply 3): I'd say that VLC is the next Spanish city to get a NYC service.
The opening of new stations in Spain for US's nonstops will be heavily determined on how DL's perform on this one. If they succeed on AGP my guesses are PMI or VLC to be the next ones.
XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3952 posts, RR: 36 Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5335 times:
Internally, we call the ETOPS 757s "757ER" aircraft. They have an HDG installed as far as flight deck operations, and will all be converted to an international biz class interior in time. There are additional differences in regards to emergency exit doors...
The newest plane awaiting conversion is sitting in AA colors still at the TOC.
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4582 posts, RR: 26 Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5321 times:
Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 10): Loads might be OK, yields I'm not quite sure, filling a 4xweekly 752 should be achievable, specially without competition. The issue will be the loads upfront since AGP is a leisure route. I'd assume that americans coming to AGP area for vacation are the wealthy ones.
I believe AGP has some kind of subsidy (or financial support) going with the JFK route (much like when DL started JFK-PSA).
Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 10): The opening of new stations in Spain for US's nonstops will be heavily determined on how DL's perform on this one. If they succeed on AGP my guesses are PMI or VLC to be the next ones.
SVQ would be the next. SVQ and AGP are the most interesting airports for US airlines by far.
Pilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 10 Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4273 times:
Yet ANOTHER city to check off. At this rate, in a few years we're not going to be able to expand anymore!
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4685 posts, RR: 48 Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4273 times:
Having been a regular visitor of the Costa del Sol for the last 25 years (our family owns an appartment down there, so it is pretty easy and cheap to fly there for a couple of days every once in a while), I am not so sure if this gamble will pay off. While the region has enjoyed a tremendous population growth during the last 15 or 20 years and despite the economic expansion in the region, there is hardly any large business base in the Malaga area with strong ties to North America. Most of the businesses in the area are still small- and mid-scale enterprises. Granted, there are quite a few very exclusive and expensive properties especially in the west of Malaga towards Gibralter, but only a very small minority of these is owned by North Americans.
Thus, while I am sure that the aircraft will be packed in "Peasant Class" both by Spanish and American passengers, I am not so sure about the front part of the cabin. On the other hand, DL has been operating continuously to NCE - which is another market in a leisure-dominated region with some premium demand - for quite some years, and that route seems to be working handsomely.
[Edited 2007-10-09 23:12:22]
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Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3831 times:
Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 17): On the other hand, DL has been operating continuously to NCE - which is another market in a leisure-dominated region with some premium demand - for quite some years, and that route seems to be working handsomely.
NCE has much more high-yield customers than Malaga. There is actually quite some High-Tech industry in the Alpes Maritimes,drawing US cliéntéle. I agree that Malaga is a risky choice for Delta - so far the US tourists have rather chosen the Caribes for sun ,beach and palm holidays.
Flynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3833 times:
Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 5): For the 1000 time on a.net, there is no such thing as a 757-200ER, it is a 757-200 ETOPS.
Yes there is. Delta AND British Airways refer to some of their 757-200s as "ERs" - I suppose all of the experts there in fleet planning don't know what they're talking about eh?
Diamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 66 Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3523 times:
A thread was started on 9/27 which announced DL's new routes. The Malaga route was mentioned in the thread-starter.
We've had a couple of threads removed as duplicates because they were announcing DL routes that were already covered in that 9/27 thread.
Rather than deleting this thread, I'm going to lock it so that the posts will remain for reference. But please move the conversation back over to the original thread, which is:
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Yet ANOTHER city to check off. At this rate, in a few years we're not going to be able to expand anymore!
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