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User currently offlineGanymed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 976 times:

What's the matter with the MD-11?Has Boeing already shut down the production line of this Tri-jet or is it still running at a low pace?How many have been built /ordered?

Any replies appreciated,

Marco


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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 951 times:

As far as I know, production ceased almost a year ago, with the last aircraft going to Lufthansa Cargo. 200 MD-11s were built.

User currently offlineJAT From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1101 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 932 times:

If an airline wanted them would they re-open the line? It is truly sad to see than there are no more MD-11's. A production run of 10 years is very short as far as I know.

User currently offlineGanymed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 925 times:

I agree with that .I think the MD-11 is a very versatile ,performant(in terms of climb and speed) airliner/cargo a/c with great cargo capacity and range.

User currently offlineJAT From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1101 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 922 times:

(form ABC news website)

LONG BEACH

Boeing to Shutdown Production of the MD-11

Edited By J.D. Kohn/ June 3, 1998

The Boeing Company confirmed the long rumored shutdown of MD-11 production.



Long Beach Plant


It announced that it would phase out the production of the MD-11 jetliner over the next 18 months, putting about 3,000 jobs at the company's Long Beach production facility in jeopardy.

The Seattle-based aerospace giant "made a market-driven decision," said John Thom, a spokesman for Boeing's Long Beach facility.

"It's a disappointing decision," Thom said. "But we've all known for some time that the (MD-11) airline program was not getting the sales it needed."

The effect of the decision is not expected to be felt until mid-1999, Thom said; the last delivery of MD-11s will be made in February 2000.

Boeing took over production of the tri-engine jet, which can be configured to carry either passengers or freight, from McDonnell Douglas last year after the two companies merged in a $13.3 billion deal.

The MD-11's future has been in doubt since then.

Phil Condit, Boeing's chief executive, has said repeatedly that the company would continue to produce the jetliner only if it could attract orders.

Federal Express, which ordered three MD-11 freighters, is the only company to buy any of the planes this year.

This summer, Thom said, Boeing will decide if it will use the Long Beach facility to build 737s.

If Long Beach is selected as the production site, Thom said, the decision would "absorb some, but not all, of the (expected) layoffs."

Sean Walsh, Gov. Pete Wilson's press secretary, told the Los Angeles Times: "They have notified us of their intention to scale back the MD-11 program, and have indicated a strong desire to work with the state on other Boeing projects in an effort to ensure that few, if any, jobs are lost at the Long Beach facility."
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Looks like we won't see any new MD-11's. Truly sad, it was the best DC-10 replacement, airlines didn't have to spend much money on re-training crews and the maintinance facilities were virtually the same for both the DC-10 and MD-11.


User currently offlineBaec777xx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 915 times:

Md11 are my favourite for my carrier when I opens mine, but I prefers the 777s.


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User currently offlineGanymed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 910 times:

I also think that's it .But what was so wrong with the MD-11 in the end ?Was it due to technical inefficiencies or the fact that it simply was not compatible with company 's Boeing and Airbus fleets due to lack of family concept ?!?

User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4795 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 885 times:

The main problem was that the early versions did not meet performance targets. They had fuel burn that is too high and could not achieve the promised range. That caused SQ to cancel their order, and many other airlines followed suit. Also some pilots have said that the airplane has unpredictable handling characteristics at low speeds due to the small horizontal stabilizer area.

Later, the MD-11ER fixed the range problems, but it was too late. The 777 and A330/340 became available and killed the market for the MD-11. If MD had got it right from the start, it may well have been the most produced widebody in the 1990s.

We'll all miss them, I love the distinctive look of the -10 and -11.


User currently offlineGanymed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 871 times:

Yeah I remember well that at a moment just prior to it's maiden flight ,MDD had encountered quite a major boost   in orders/sales for the MD-11 from Companies throughout the world and its future couldn't have looked better at that period .But humm.... we all know about how things had turned in the following years.. 

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