Currently nobody flies the route. AA pulled out about two years ago. Puerto Plata has service to three US cities, Miami, Newark, and San Juan, following Delta's pull-out last spring after less than eight months of service. It's a tough market to crack. It is more popular with Europeans.
Ikramerica From United States, joined May 2005, 18393 posts, RR: 59 Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2010 times:
This is the difficulty any airline faces if it feels it must continue to expand. If it wants to cherry pick routes, over time, those routes come fewer and farrer between, and they must take more risks. This route may do well for them, but it's no slam dunk.
As a USA customer, I'd like to see B6 fill in more blanks in the 48 states myself, so I'd have more chance to fly them. Hub it up at MCI or STL or someplace where the west coast customers can get to more places domestically without connecting in JFK.
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ThirteenRight From United States, joined Jun 2007, 329 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1869 times:
Quoting B752fanatic (Reply 2): Doomed to fail, DL tried it, and quit. (With a CRJ)
So because DL tried it (with a CRJ nonetheless) and failed, that means B6 cant be successful on it? If that's your logic then there are many other B6 routes that should have failed that haven't.
B752fanatic From United States, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1823 times:
Quoting ThirteenRight (Reply 3): So because DL tried it (with a CRJ nonetheless) and failed, that means B6 cant be successful on it? If that's your logic then there are many other B6 routes that should have failed that haven't.
AA, was there too, quit, DL quit, come on? with B6 trying it will be 3 strikes you are out, unless, as you say they may be lucky. But who knows, perhaps B6 will buy a couple of resorts out there.
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Ikramerica From United States, joined May 2005, 18393 posts, RR: 59 Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1615 times:
Quoting B752fanatic (Reply 4): AA, was there too, quit, DL quit, come on? with B6 trying it will be 3 strikes you are out, unless, as you say they may be lucky. But who knows, perhaps B6 will buy a couple of resorts out there.
This was my point. Whether B6 can somehow make it work or not is not the point. The point is that to continue to expand, they are now adding these marginal routes rather than filling in the USA network. And in either case, it's harder and harder to find "slam dunks."
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JetBlueAUS From United States, joined Apr 2006, 1111 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1596 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 6): This was my point. Whether B6 can somehow make it work or not is not the point. The point is that to continue to expand, they are now adding these marginal routes rather than filling in the USA network. And in either case, it's harder and harder to find "slam dunks."
Yeah, I know what you mean. They could definitely beef up their operations, especially on new and existing routes. Honestly, I've never heard of POP until someone made a thread about one of their E190s being there.
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AAJFKSJUBKLYN From United States, joined Jul 2007, 643 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks ago) and read 1306 times:
This is going to be an interesting case study for sure. 6B is taking a risk with this (there is reason I typed 6B). Most Dominicans call it Blue Jet in lieu of Jet Blue. Cant wait to see what happens.
JRodriguez136 From United States, joined May 2000, 235 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1188 times:
AAJFKSJUBKLYN you are absolutely correct the Dominicans love Bluejet...
As for the JFK-POP service, this service is planned to begin on Jan. 10, 2008, (granted that DOT and DR Govt. approves it), the flight times will be announced at another time as they are already planned, but not official...
DesertJets From United States, joined Feb 2000, 6883 posts, RR: 28 Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1179 times:
Even though POP is a tourist destination, could there be any demand for VFR pax from the NYC area on this route.... somewhat important to consider given the sizable Dominican population there.
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AAJFKSJUBKLYN From United States, joined Jul 2007, 643 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1100 times:
AA has tried over and over...even VFR. So has Delta. SDQ is the traditional desitination along with STI. Both have great capacity alredy from NY via AA.
ThirteenRight From United States, joined Jun 2007, 329 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1077 times:
Quoting JRodriguez136 (Reply 9): AAJFKSJUBKLYN you are absolutely correct the Dominicans love Bluejet...
As for the JFK-POP service, this service is planned to begin on Jan. 10, 2008, (granted that DOT and DR Govt. approves it), the flight times will be announced at another time as they are already planned, but not official...
AAJFKSJUBKLYN From United States, joined Jul 2007, 643 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1057 times:
Quoting AAJFKSJUBKLYN (Reply 8): This is going to be an interesting case study for sure. 6B is taking a risk with this (there is reason I typed 6B). Most Dominicans call it Blue Jet in lieu of Jet Blue. Cant wait to see what happens
Please don't quote me on things I didn't say. I never said this.
DeltaMIA From United States, joined Feb 2004, 1665 posts, RR: 23 Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter): following Delta's pull-out last spring after less than eight months of service. It's a tough market to crack. It is more popular with Europeans.
Delta still operates Sat/Sun service from ATL with a 738
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MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 25665 posts, RR: 75 Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 912 times:
Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 15):
Delta still operates Sat/Sun service from ATL with a 738
I stand corrected. Looks like Delta is at POP after all. A few weeks ago they erased all the flights from CRS. A little surprised because the route has performed horribly.
N77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 884 times:
Quoting AAJFKSJUBKLYN (Reply 11): AA has tried over and over...even VFR. So has Delta. SDQ is the traditional desitination along with STI. Both have great capacity alredy from NY via AA.
Correct. You could say the same for LIR in Costa Rica.
Ikramerica From United States, joined May 2005, 18393 posts, RR: 59 Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 865 times:
Quoting N77014 (Reply 17): Yes, because Americans in the caribbean trend to hop on the cruise ships ex Miami, while the euros and canadians tend to prefer the resorts.
You mean all inclusive resorts.
The cheapest Americans will take the cruise, as it's mostly all inclusive and takes you all over without airfare (MIA airfare is cheap, especially when part of the cruise package).
When going to actual island resorts, Americans aren't as concerned with all inclusive, as we like to go out to restaurants and buy real drinks, rather than eat at the same place every night and have watered down drinks. Generally. Not everyone.
I noticed this in European resorts too. The idea of buying half board or full board resort packages is not something Americans generally do, and aren't even offered here in the USA in general (though some hotels offer then to foreign tour companies...)
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SKYYBLUE From United States, joined Sep 2005, 566 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 627 times:
About time. I am actually surprised that POP came before PUJ. I think any more international expansion in the near future will be to the Dominican Republic, it works very well for us.
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