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China Southern Airlines To DTW In 2009  
User currently offlineDmt52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 79 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4171 times:
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From the Detroit Free Press

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...?AID=/20070927/BUSINESS05/70927027


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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4147 times:

Good news for Detroit - China Southern is joining SkyTeam relatively soon, correct? In a situation here, the more surprising thing may be that China Southern is flying the route and not Northwest! Do I smell a codeshare?

Oh, and my required rant... won't somebody please think of MSP???


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25183 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4147 times:

Its nice to see I suppose China Southern expanding beyond its single LAX flight which it has run for 10 years now.

PEK-DTW seems a little odd however as CZ is based at Guangzhou and PEK is Air China's hub.
A CAN-DTW would have made more sense in my opinion with online CZ connectivity options at CAN.



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User currently offlineDavid31998 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4115 times:

Will this new competition force NWA to also offer non-stop service to PEK instead of making a stop at their Tokyo hub? I hope so because, like many others, I look for non-stop flights. Going through the Tokyo hub adds several hours to the travel time and this puts NWA at a disadvantage. But I avoid Chinese carriers at all costs because of their extremely poor customer service.

User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2222 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

Quoting David31998 (Reply 3):
Will this new competition force NWA to also offer non-stop service to PEK instead of making a stop at their Tokyo hub? I hope so because, like many others, I look for non-stop flights. Going through the Tokyo hub adds several hours to the travel time and this puts NWA at a disadvantage. But I avoid Chinese carriers at all costs because of their extremely poor customer service.

China Southern is a member of Sky Team like NW, so I think they added the route with the expectation they could code share with NW. Likewise, NW might code share with CZ on DTW-PVG.



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7539 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 4):
China Southern is a member of Sky Team like NW,

Not quite yet, but by then they should be.



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User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 876 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

Actually I think that the NW and CZ will run their own flight daily direct. Here is the press release from Detroit Metro's website. http://www.metroairport.com/uploads/docs/NR_China_Southern_07.pdf


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):
PEK-DTW seems a little odd however as CZ is based at Guangzhou and PEK is Air China's hub.

Not only CA.
While Guangzhou is CZ's primary domestic hub, PEK is their primary intercon gateway.


User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1560 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

Good news for DTW, another 787 coming. I can't wait to see them!


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3634 times:

Call me a skeptic, but I have my doubts as to whether this route will actually be launched in 2009.....
Gaining authority and actually operating are two completely different things. Does CZ have a good track record of following through in these situations?

They will primarily have to rely on China-based traffic, as I sense that a good amount of US-based traffic may be hesistant to fly on a Chinese carrier.


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