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China Southern Airlines To DTW In 2009

Dmt52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 72 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2638 times:

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From the Detroit Free Press

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AlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

Good news for Detroit - China Southern is joining SkyTeam relatively soon, correct? In a situation here, the more surprising thing may be that China Southern is flying the route and not Northwest! Do I smell a codeshare?

Oh, and my required rant... won't somebody please think of MSP???

Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22026 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

Its nice to see I suppose China Southern expanding beyond its single LAX flight which it has run for 10 years now.

PEK-DTW seems a little odd however as CZ is based at Guangzhou and PEK is Air China's hub.
A CAN-DTW would have made more sense in my opinion with online CZ connectivity options at CAN.

From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California

David31998 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2582 times:

Will this new competition force NWA to also offer non-stop service to PEK instead of making a stop at their Tokyo hub? I hope so because, like many others, I look for non-stop flights. Going through the Tokyo hub adds several hours to the travel time and this puts NWA at a disadvantage. But I avoid Chinese carriers at all costs because of their extremely poor customer service.

WA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2038 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Quoting David31998 (Reply 3):
Will this new competition force NWA to also offer non-stop service to PEK instead of making a stop at their Tokyo hub? I hope so because, like many others, I look for non-stop flights. Going through the Tokyo hub adds several hours to the travel time and this puts NWA at a disadvantage. But I avoid Chinese carriers at all costs because of their extremely poor customer service.

China Southern is a member of Sky Team like NW, so I think they added the route with the expectation they could code share with NW. Likewise, NW might code share with CZ on DTW-PVG.

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Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 4):
China Southern is a member of Sky Team like NW,

Not quite yet, but by then they should be.

"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009

Hjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 847 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Actually I think that the NW and CZ will run their own flight daily direct. Here is the press release from Detroit Metro's website. http://www.metroairport.com/uploads/docs/NR_China_Southern_07.pdf

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ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2203 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):
PEK-DTW seems a little odd however as CZ is based at Guangzhou and PEK is Air China's hub.

Not only CA.
While Guangzhou is CZ's primary domestic hub, PEK is their primary intercon gateway.

DTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

Good news for DTW, another 787 coming. I can't wait to see them!

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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Call me a skeptic, but I have my doubts as to whether this route will actually be launched in 2009.....
Gaining authority and actually operating are two completely different things. Does CZ have a good track record of following through in these situations?

They will primarily have to rely on China-based traffic, as I sense that a good amount of US-based traffic may be hesistant to fly on a Chinese carrier.

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