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QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s  
User currently offlineFlyboysp From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 739 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6070 times:

I'm not sure if this has been reported before, but QF have decided to buy the 7 Ex BA 767s when the lease was up earlier in the year.

http://www.vpmag.com/yssy/viewtopic.php?t=20115


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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16259 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5440 times:

Is this QF 763 sub-fleet used throughout the 763 network? Or just restricted to some routes?


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User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5058 times:

Domestic routes only- different type of business class.

User currently offlineQantas787 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4933 times:

[quote=ETA Unknown,reply=2]Domestic routes only- different type of business class.
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I was on a couple of these birds 2 days ago and they had the usual 763 BC international class of 1-2-2. Of course they aren't pods but pretty good for domestic.


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5244 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4920 times:

Quoting Qantas787 (Reply 3):
I was on a couple of these birds 2 days ago and they had the usual 763 BC international class of 1-2-2. Of course they aren't pods but pretty good for domestic.

The EX BA 767's (RR) are in a domestic cofig of 2-2-2 only. QF's Domestic 767 (GE's) are also in 2-2-2 in J

All International 767's are QF GE in a 2-2-1 config.


User currently offlineQantas787 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4728 times:

Quoting ANstar (Reply 4):
The EX BA 767's (RR) are in a domestic cofig of 2-2-2 only. QF's Domestic 767 (GE's) are also in 2-2-2 in J

All International 767's are QF GE in a 2-2-1 config.

Thanks for the clarification ANstar, but when I said birds I was just generically talking of QF 767's. The flights were purely domestic and the ones used had the 1-2-2 international seating. The main point I am making is the fact that both seat plans are being used on domestic sectors.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21529 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

Quoting Qantas787 (Reply 5):
The main point I am making is the fact that both seat plans are being used on domestic sectors.

I wish my 767 PER-MEL had the international config. Overnight in the domestic config stinks. I was so tired at MEL, but luckily I had the SYD-LAX sector in F to get some good sleep...  Wink And a nice breakfast MEL-SYD in J.



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User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4580 times:

I am suprised that didnt try to extend the lease as with the 787's arriving in 3 or 4 years they will fase them out, like buying something just to throw is away again. Unless of course they got a good $$$$$

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4919 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4548 times:

Hopefully QF will consider modifying the galleys to QF standards... BUT considering the aircraft have operated in the fleet for more than 7 years without any major issues... I dont see it happening... Any idea as to how much it cost to modify the galleys to QF standard?

EK413



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User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4480 times:

Wonder if they will winglet their 767's


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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4830 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 8):
Hopefully QF will consider modifying the galleys to QF standards... BUT considering the aircraft have operated in the fleet for more than 7 years without any major issues... I dont see it happening... Any idea as to how much it cost to modify the galleys to QF standard?

There is no QF standard so far as 763s are concerned... there about 6 different setups...
So far as GE vs RR powered birds it is impossible to have the same standar anyway as the RR have 4 sets of doors whereas the GE only have 2 sets plus 2 overwing exit pairs.



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User currently onlineSydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4045 times:

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 9):
Wonder if they will winglet their 767's

Why bother? QF 763's will only be basically domestic birds once the 787's start arriving and they don't have any problems making Australian trans con and trans Tasman range.

Isn't there also an issue with not being able to get winglets until 2010 ish or something? I tried to find where I read about that but couldn't.

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 7):
I am suprised that didnt try to extend the lease as with the 787's arriving in 3 or 4 years they will fase them out, like buying something just to throw is away again. Unless of course they got a good $$$$$

It was probably more a case of buy them or lose them because BA wouldn't want the planes back once the 787's start coming online. Plus QF probably got a good price from them as well and, obviously, BA didn't need them.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4919 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 10):
There is no QF standard so far as 763s are concerned

The QF standard I'm referring to is the galley equipment, carts,stowage boxes,bins etc...

EK413



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User currently offlineOzair From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 849 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 11):
It was probably more a case of buy them or lose them because BA wouldn't want the planes back once the 787's start coming online. Plus QF probably got a good price from them as well and, obviously, BA didn't need them.

I'm not sure with the very high cycles these aircraft have done that BA would have wanted them back, hence the sale.


User currently offlineAznCSA4QF744ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

What's with Qantas buying second hand from BA?

User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5244 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 7):
I am suprised that didnt try to extend the lease as with the 787's arriving in 3 or 4 years they will fase them out, like buying something just to throw is away again. Unless of course they got a good $$$$$

Who knows... te BA/QF relationship doesnt seem as strong as it once was. to be honest I don;t know why QF bothered buying them.

Perhaps BA turned around and said lease is up you either buy them or return them. QF would not have been able to cope with 7 x 767's leaving the fleet, so BA could have asked a good rpice for them.


User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5696 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2945 times:
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Quoting AznCSA4QF744ER (Reply 14):
What's with Qantas buying second hand from BA?

Back when they arrived QF had something of a capacity crisis, with Ansett's troubles then collapse, basically needed to expand quickly, with the downturn in Northern Hemisphere then 9/11 these were available.
I am sure the price after the lease expired was pretty good, would BA want them back after they had been thrasged on 1 hr sectors for 7+ years?



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