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El Al Plane En Route To HKG Lands In Uzbekistan  
User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9826 times:

An El Al en route to HKG was forced to land in Tashkent due to a technical problem in one of its engines.

I wonder if it was on one of the new 772.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3455195,00.html

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User currently offlineTodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2804 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9730 times:

And I wonder why there are so many El Al emergencies.


Btw, those incidents do not only occur with ageing 757s and 767s...but also with recent 737s and 777s. I don't know whether there are some statistics being made taking into account the size of a fleet and the occurences of incidents...it would be interesting to see where El Al would stand on such a list.....



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9661 times:

First time 777 in Tashkent.

User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9089 times:

Quoting TodaReisinger (Reply 1):
And I wonder why there are so many El Al emergencies.

That's because the Israeli press reports every incident that happen at LY.



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User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9062 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 2):
First time 777 in Tashkent.

Probably also the first LY aircraft in the country!



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User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9029 times:

TodaReisinger, visit this website www.crash-aerien.com, and on the incident database, you will realize that LY is not the only airline to have emergency landings.
PS: you must have a username to see this database



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User currently offlineHovitzer From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8943 times:

More details:
LY 772 4X-ELB enroute TLV-HKG was diverted to Tashkent due malfunction in one of the engines. After an exam it was decided to send all the necessary parts for fixing it it to Tashkent and they were sent the last night (Huge amount of spare parts, built on 20 cargo pallets, and was loaded on a 742F).
First result of the malfunction are severe delays for the next flights of that machine.
Hovitzer.


User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8807 times:

You mean ECB, I suppose (ELB is a 744, IIRC).
By the way, it is the 2nd emergency landing of ECB in one month, with the same problem...



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User currently offlineJfk787nyc From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8756 times:

Israel is a very big tourist location for Uzbekistan, Their national carrier has scheduled flights to Israel and EL AL Cargo lands in Tashkent dozens of times yearly.

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8688 times:

I hope all passengers received good treatment and accomodation while stranded.
I am sure Tashkent must be a most interesting place to see.



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User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8687 times:

Quoting Hovitzer (Reply 6):
First result of the malfunction are severe delays for the next flights of that machine.

I was at HKG departing on VS201 wondering what on earth was going on with the 13 hour delay.

It was a 1700 departure with ETD of 0600 +1


User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8668 times:

In my opinion, if I am not in a hurry and the plane did not suffer from any really dangerous moments, I wont be too upset having landed in this new place to me. To be honest I would love a short trip to one of these countries which seem quite far-reached to people like me living in UK and Hong Kong. I could never figure out which country is which when I look them up in the map.....


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User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8519 times:

Quoting Brenintw (Reply 4):
Probably also the first LY aircraft in the country!



im almost posotive they fly there



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9170 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 8473 times:

Quoting A380US (Reply 12):
im almost posotive they fly there

no passenger and no cargo scheduled routes by LY listed in the OAG

HY flies scheduled services to TLV



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User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7985 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 13):
HY flies scheduled services to TLV

yes, with their 763s IIRC



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User currently offlineAirplanenut From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 6669 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 14):
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 13):
HY flies scheduled services to TLV

yes, with their 763s IIRC

Indeed... when I flew into TLV in August 2006, my plane pulled in right next to an HY 763.



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 6394 times:

El Al dont operate any kind of service to Tashkent.

User currently offlineSky From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 6193 times:

I was waiting for my flight to Astana from Tashkent! Was only one engine running when it came in from TLV.

Nice to see a 772 of LY in an other country except for the Netherlands.

[Edited 2007-10-02 18:30:13]

User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 6111 times:

Quoting Sky (Reply 17):
I was waiting for my flight to Astana from Tashkent! Was only one engine running when it came in from TLV.

fortunately that this didn't happen in the middle of the Atlantic or Pacific!



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User currently offlineTodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2804 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 6087 times:

LY777, I have never said that El Al was the only airline experiencing emergency landings... I have only said that there is a worrisome occurence of technical incidents of all kind, particularly worrisome given the very small size of the fleet.


"By the way, it is the 2nd emergency landing of ECB in one month, with the same problem..."

Well...THIS is typically illustrating what I mean......



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User currently offlineTodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2804 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 6046 times:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/908859.html

"(...) Last month, an El Al plane had had to extend its layover in Bangkok after a bird flew into its windshield. Before that, an El Al airplane carrying 178 passengers was fitted with the wrong type of landing gear at Bangkok. (...)"


What the hell is this???



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User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

Quoting TodaReisinger (Reply 19):
LY777, I have never said that El Al was the only airline experiencing emergency landings... I have only said that there is a worrisome occurence of technical incidents of all kind, particularly worrisome given the very small size of the fleet.


"By the way, it is the 2nd emergency landing of ECB in one month, with the same problem..."

Well...THIS is typically illustrating what I mean......

According to www.crash-aerien.com, Aer Lingus, who has about the same fleet size as LY, experienced about the same (if no more) numbers of incidents as LY



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User currently offlineLY204 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5494 times:

Just out of curiosity, has El Al's privitization impacted their maintenance processes? Possible factors to consider include whether they have outsourced some of their maintenance, etc.

User currently offlineLevg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5434 times:

Does anyone have the correct registration for the aircraft involved? 4X-ELB is indeed a B744. One another note, B777 still has a perfect safety record, no accidents in the 12 years it has been in service.

Leo.



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User currently offlineAmirs From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5331 times:

Quoting TodaReisinger (Reply 20):
"(...) Last month, an El Al plane had had to extend its layover in Bangkok after a bird flew into its windshield. Before that, an El Al airplane carrying 178 passengers was fitted with the wrong type of landing gear at Bangkok. (...)"

Both those incidents were not LY's fault.


25 Alessandro : "Caused by engine fluids", hydraulic problem?
26 Evan767 : Along what path does this plane fly? Do Israeli planes fly over middle eastern countries? Iran is right smack dab in the middle of the great circle ro
27 Post contains images TurkishWings : Not really
28 Viscount724 : No, as far as I know they either fly north over Turkey before turning east, or south over the red Sea and then east over the Indian Ocean, depending
29 TodaReisinger : Of course the incident with the bird is not El Al's fault...and that's why my question a few days ago was only about the other incident. What was it?
30 Amirs : The wrong landing gears were put by the non- EL AL maintenance crew at BKK.
31 LXA340 : completely off topic, however maybe somebody know. There are 2 weird LY flights out of ZRH today, one at 16:30 (LY1344) with 4X-EKI and another flight
32 TodaReisinger : This is just unbelievable!! There should be, at least, a minimal supervision by El Al employees when some technical work is performed on an airplane.
33 Post contains links Amirs : you dont know that, I never said there was no LY supervision. I just said I know the landing gear were installed in BKK by local maintenance. An arti
34 Amirs : Actually not so off topic. I think it has something to do with the a/c that was stuck and had a problem in Zurich. It was the flight from the day bef
35 LXA340 : yeah it was EKI, strange the plane got in friday and was first scheduled to leave Sat night, but I gues problem was just noticed saturday night when
36 Post contains links StarGoldLHR : I thought EL-AL used a 737 for ZRH flights.. I saw this the other week, not a 767. http://www.airliners.net/uf/536883765/1192054756v1xgqT.jpg
37 LXA340 : yes LY only uses 737's on ZRH flights although very rarely we get 752's and even rarely B762/3s. However as a plane went tech I gues the 762 that was
38 Noelg : Do LY use Rolls Royce engines on their 777s? Cheers Noel
39 LY777 : yes, they do. They experienced several technic problems with them lately
40 LXA340 : I gues only on the older planes or were there some issues already on ECE or F?
41 LY777 : Only ECA/B/C/D experienced problems (ECB experienced engine failure twice in-flight in a month)
42 Noelg : Please don't flame, but I've heard this a few times about RR engines on the 777. There have been quite a lot of failures on 777 RR engines over the l
43 LXA340 : btw: Is it possible to change engines on an aircraft already in service. Eg a B772 to go from RR to GE or vice versa, or are there to many specificati
44 LY777 : I don't think it is possible, this may imply further modifications
45 TodaReisinger : I wonder where my latest message on this thread has gone...but it disappeared! My profile indicates that my last message was posted 1 day and 10 hours
46 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : It is very uncommon but not unheard of. Two Atlas Air 747-200s were converted from P&W to GE engines, one of these aircraft below. It was written off
47 Post contains images TodaReisinger : ?? Now my "disappeared" message is online again; I really don't understand what happened, since I double checked from 2 different computers before sen
48 TodaReisinger : And yet again.....engine problems on El Al.....now with 737s: LY 652 Kiev - Tel Aviv has been cancelled on Oct 8 after the pilots noticed a technical
49 Reality : That's very fortunate for the rest of us. . .
50 Reality : How fortunate. , , .
51 LY777 : maybe there was a bug?
52 LY777 : This is frightening indeed. This is the 7th incident of the year 2007, ans the 2nd in one week. There are more and more LY incidents lately. I don't k
53 Todareisinger : Today's Haaretz online indicates that an El Al airplane is "grounded in Vienna with crack in cockpit" Any info...? And any info re the 777 & 737 incid
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