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Got To Have Guts To Land Here... AA Honduras  
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3997 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

This runway in Honduras capitol Tegucigalpa must be the worst place to land, atleast with an airplane the size of this. The pilot has to land directly right after a sharp left turn... and you have to be ice cold to figure out the exact distance to the ground, on the way down:


http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/ioslo/article1370256.ece

Cool video

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User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
Cool video

Indeed! But it has been posted several times already.

Here we go again for the lazy people:



User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Teguc is known well to passengers and crews alike as being one place where soiled drawers are commonplace.

It's very tight and white knuckles are the norm.



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User currently offlineB727 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Some good piloting skills.


B727
Glenn


User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4278 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

I've seen this video probably 50 times and I am still somewhat in awe of it. It makes landings at SXM or Kai Tek seem silly easy.

What I can't figure out is whether all landings are this hairy or did this AA pilot just cut it a little close? It sounds like he spools up the jets just as he is exiting the turn but it was almost too late to make it over the hill the photog is standing on. Obviously you have to come in high and fast for this runway but it looks like this pilot was a little too close.

Regardless, you must have nerves of steel to land here. I'll be happy never to fly there, thank you very much.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3997 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

This has nothing to do with me being lazy. It's impossible to follow everything that happens on this site in a day.. And it did'nt show up on the preview before posting, wich is strange since it apparently has been posted so many times.

I do have other things to do than looking at this webpage all day long, which I'm sure goes for everyone.

[Edited 2007-10-04 09:43:59]

User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

I believe that was the pilots last flight, he retired. There was also a video camera in the cockpit for that landing.

User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3706 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 5):
This has nothing to do with me being lazy. It's impossible to follow everything that happens on this site in a day.. And it did'nt show up on the preview before posting, wich is strange since it apparently has been posted so many times.

He wasn't implying your lazy, he posted it up for the people who are lazy, like myself, who won't click that link.



PHX based
User currently offlineFlyLKU From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 817 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Kai Tek lives in Honduras!

Does this mean that AA's female pilots have balls?

Reminds me of DCA rwy 19, with mountains, terrain on short final, bigger turn to final ... I guess it is nothing like it DCA 19 after all.



...are we there yet?
User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Is it me or is that runway incredibly short(at least for a 757)? It seems like he was halfway down the runway before the nose gear touched down.


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Isnt there a parking garage on the other end.....I think they need to relocate the airport

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33053 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

IIRC, AA pilots who fly the TGU route need to be "certified" to fly there, with plenty of training as a co-pilot before flying there on a regular basis. Not just any AA pilot is scheduled to fly to Tegucigalpa. The same goes for Cali, La Paz, and Quito.


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
IIRC, AA pilots who fly the TGU route need to be "certified" to fly there, with plenty of training as a co-pilot before flying there on a regular basis. Not just any AA pilot is scheduled to fly to Tegucigalpa. The same goes for Cali, La Paz, and Quito.

We had similar restrictions when we used to operate in there at Air Florida. Additionally, it was a Day VMC operation only (the VOR for the VOR approach never seemed to work), and all ops were on runway 19 (the uphill slope and terrain going the other way precluded ops). Our 737-200s (-15 powered) couldn't make it TGU-MIA non-stop (like the mighty 757 can), so we operated MIA-TGU on the way down and TGU-SAP-MIA on the way back.


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3706 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 9):
Is it me or is that runway incredibly short(at least for a 757)? It seems like he was halfway down the runway before the nose gear touched down.

He touched down before the aiming point, but yes, it does look quite short.



PHX based
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17671 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 13):
He touched down before the aiming point,

I think he touched down before the displaced threshhold too



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineTonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1029 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Nice video. I see how the plane hits the runway a bit tilted to the left. Does it have some type of automatic aligning when it hits the runway so it can straighten it self?

Thanks,
Tony


User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting Tonytifao (Reply 15):
Nice video. I see how the plane hits the runway a bit tilted to the left. Does it have some type of automatic aligning when it hits the runway so it can straighten it self?

Not really, unless you count the pilot's feet pushing the rudder pedals, which after a while happens almost subconsciously, automatic.  Smile

Checko



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26605 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 8):


Does this mean that AA's female pilots have balls?

Ovaries perhaps  Wink

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 9):
Is it me or is that runway incredibly short(at least for a 757)? It seems like he was halfway down the runway before the nose gear touched down.

No. Of all commercial jet aircraft, the 757 is likely the one best suited for that runway.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
IIRC, AA pilots who fly the TGU route need to be "certified" to fly there, with plenty of training as a co-pilot before flying there on a regular basis. Not just any AA pilot is scheduled to fly to Tegucigalpa. The same goes for Cali, La Paz, and Quito.

Do they do something similar for SNA?



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quote:
Our 737-200s (-15 powered) couldn't make it TGU-MIA non-stop (like the mighty 757 can)



Quote:
Of all commercial jet aircraft, the 757 is likely the one best suited for that runway.

It's not as fast as the Concorde, not as as wide as a wide-body, and it doesn't have the range of an ULR pax plane, but for the most thrilling ride of all time, spool up the engines of a 757 with the brakes on and then take off like a dragster!!

YEE-HAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, I had to say that - I love the 757 too much.

Interestingly, my world geography class that I teach JUST did the lesson today on the topography of Latin America, and the difficulties involved with "every day life", to quote the venacular. I pointed out that not only are some of Latin America's cities at VERY high altitudes (Quito, Bogota, Cali, La Paz, Mexico City), but they are surrounded by mountains. This means not only to airplanes (and people!!) have to gasp for air, but when they finally ARE airborne, they have to climb quickly and careful to avoid dangerous mountain peaks. It is NOT for the faint of heart pilots!!



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting ENU (Reply 1):
Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
Cool video

Indeed! But it has been posted several times already.

Another interesting AA 757 approach and landing at TGU (from the cockpit), also posted before. It was the captain's last trip before retirement.
http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircra..._Airlines_Aviation_Video-8203.html


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17671 posts, RR: 46
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting TheGreatChecko (Reply 16):
which after a while happens almost subconsciously, automatic.

....in your car as you drive away from the airport Silly



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 20):
....in your car as you drive away from the airport

Never gotten it that bad...yet!
 biggrin 

Checko



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19):

Is that what the pilots talk about after landing?  Wink



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17671 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting TheGreatChecko (Reply 21):
Never gotten it that bad...yet!

After a long cross country in a Cessna I notice my car turns a little better when your left foot applies pressure to the floor Wink



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5620 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
No. Of all commercial jet aircraft, the 757 is likely the one best suited for that runway.

If Boeing or Airbus doesn't develop a true 757 replacement, ancient 757s will still be flying into those high, difficult airports in 2040. Nothing before or since has been as well suited to those missions.

Are there any new engines on the horizon in the 40klb range? It seems likely that development efforts for 737RS or NSR engines will be focused on slightly lower ratings.


25 Greggarious : What a video! Thanks so much for posting it. Really showcases the abilities of the 757, not to mention the skill of commercial airline pilots (hard to
26 Wannabe : I I had seen the outside view, but never the cockpit view. I'd expect to be catching a "3" wire at toucdown, and going to full throttle! What a fun ap
27 B757capt : Anybody have the approach plates?????
28 FXramper : Correct. My uncle did this training for South America qualifications for ORD and MIA based 752 drivers for 5 years. He ranked LPB as being a more dif
29 Post contains links and images Carmenlu15 : Hehehe... to think a TGU landing is high on my "things-to-try-out-before-I-die" list! One of these days I might end up buying a ticket and flying the
30 FlyUSCG : My guess would be no. There isn't any terrain to deal with in the area and it's basically just a short runway. I'm not sure if it's the shortest in t
31 Mark5388916 : LUCKY!
32 Halls120 : Having been lucky enough to have a window seat as we landed at Teguc, I can tell you that my landing was just as hair-raising. I was sitting on the l
33 Post contains images Amazonphil : SNA isn't that hard to fly into/out of. It's the incredibly touchy people around the airport that HAVE to have their stupid noise abatement procedure
34 Post contains images LTU932 : A jet, an MD-11 to be precise because MD-11s are known for their very high approach speed. Just imagine an MD-11 landing in TGU. It's fun for the who
35 Post contains links Boeingluvr : http://flightlevel350.com/aviation_video.php?id=3371 Must be strong winds in this one. CO737NG with nose down attitude and constant banking.
36 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Sounds just coooooooooooooool... Alas, the only choice from here is a TA 320 (though any flight is a good flight )
37 N710PS : A Lear was lost landing there once. A 25 if I am accurate.
38 Spink : he's obviously never flown into Leh, Ladakh, India. By far the fastest landing I've ever experienced, not a lot of open space there to put down a pla
39 Klwright69 : Yes, my father, retired CO captain (may he RIP), always told me about these "special case" airports. He mentioned UIO. Speaking of special case airpor
40 Airbazar : The 757 suits AA well, but there are plenty of 737's, A320's and even ERJ's operating to those airports.
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