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Jetblue To Start SLC - BUR  
User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Havn't seen this posted yet...

Source

JetBlue connects more of its cities with Burbank-Salt Lake route
Beginning Dec. 15, JetBlue Airways will add nonstop service between Salt Lake City and Burbank, Calif. The carrier will fly one daily round-trip flight on 150-seat Airbus A320 aircraft. JetBlue also flies from Salt Lake City to Long Beach, Calif. "Our customers keep asking for more service from more airports and we're happy to provide it," Frankie Littleford, vice president of JetBlue's Salt Lake City-based reservations department, says in a press release announcing the route. "With our service to Long Beach and now Burbank, JetBlue is making it even easier to jet between Los Angeles and Salt Lake, regardless of which airport you prefer to use."


great news for our SLC customers!

think we can see SLC possibly ever becoming a focus city? only problem though...isn't gate space an issue for us there?

~B6FA4ever

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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4233 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Is it me, or does JetBlue seem to be building up a small focus city in SLC? I know they only serve a few cities from there, but it is clear they are expanding. Obviously they are no threat to DL yet, but I wonder if they will respond? They usually start announcing new flights within hours of a competitor.


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User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

forgot to mention...

i also wonder where the plane will be coming from. either some other route will be added to SLC so the airbus plane will be ready for the BUR run...or we're gonna be retiming the SFO or one of the LGB flights. we'll see.

~B6FA4ever

also it didn't have it in the report but here are the flight dept/arr times:

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Salt Lake City (SLC) to Burbank, Calif.(BUR)to

Burbank, Calif. (BUR) Salt Lake City (SLC)

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Depart - Arrive Depart - Arrive

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2:55 p.m. - 3:45 p.m. 4:25 p.m. - 7:20 p.m.

(daily effective Dec. 15, 2007) (daily effective Dec. 15, 2007)

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User currently offlineGoBlue From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Loving the expansion, they can get more use out of the space they have and I am sure if they can prove to SLC that they have the demand for more flights there will be more space available. I would hope that they could start to connect all West coast cities to SLC, and then mainline the connections through to IAD, BOS, FLL and MCO. Which would help to remove some of the pressure on their JFK Operations.

Just my 2 cents!


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21456 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Seems like a bizarre route to me, and I live near BUR. Maybe they are after the Park City winter crowd, especially for Sundance?


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User currently offlineLGAtoIND From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Perhaps this is a sign that JetBlue has been doing well on SLC-SAN/SFO?

User currently offlineJkudall From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

It almsot seems like B6 already flies BUR-SLC with as many fuel diversions they have to SLC on the BUR-JFK route.

Wonder what DL is going to do in response (you know they will do something).


User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8369 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting LGAtoIND (Reply 5):
Perhaps this is a sign that JetBlue has been doing well on SLC-SAN/SFO?

Probably, and let's not forget, JetBlue has a lot of employees + perhaps some facilities in SLC. Reservations, etc. So it's not just another town to them.


User currently offlineDeltaDAWG From United States of America, joined May 2006, 772 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Is a once daily going to get the route off the ground? Or, is B6 not expecting any type of counter-punch from DL or WN? I have a hard time believing people will support a once daily when they have DL & WN with more time choices. I may well be wrong but it just seems like if they want it to be accepted they would need at least two departures - one morning and one afternoon/early evening.


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User currently offlineGoBlue From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

[quote=Jkudall,reply=6]It almsot seems like B6 already flies BUR-SLC with as many fuel diversions they have to SLC on the BUR-JFK route.

Was wondering when someone would make this remark, they are not the only carriers who suffer from this at time due to weather and aircraft range. Suffice it to say they must have good operations at SLC if they can cope with "all" the diversions there in the winter


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting B6FA4ever (Reply 2):
i also wonder where the plane will be coming from. either some other route will be added to SLC so the airbus plane will be ready for the BUR run...or we're gonna be retiming the SFO or one of the LGB flights. we'll see.

Would love to see a SLC-BOS run like they do from DEN and SEA. Also, an IAD would be cool.



Good goes around!
User currently offlineJetbluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2965 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Good route to fly. The SLC-SFO/SAN flights have been doing well (especially the SAN flight), and SLC-LGB has been a good performer since its inception - with now two daily flights. SLC-BUR is a natural fit in their expansion.

What types of frequencies do DL and WN offer on this route?

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2669 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Finally giving the West some love! It's about time we saw them take away some focus from the crowded East coast.

User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5334 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting Jkudall (Reply 6):
Wonder what DL is going to do in response (you know they will do something).



Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 8):
Is a once daily going to get the route off the ground? Or, is B6 not expecting any type of counter-punch from DL or WN? I have a hard time believing people will support a once daily when they have DL & WN with more time choices.

In SAN, DL has made no major response to B6's entry in the SLC market, although DL has just gone to all mainline flights (except a flight or 2 which still operate as Connection service on light-travel days such as 2 and 6); the timing of this seems to indicate it was planned before B6 entered the market but who knows.

(I can report that DL has not responded to the entry of FL in the SAN-ATL market earlier this year...)

Unfortunately, WN has still not seemed interested in getting into the SAN-SLC market although it looks to me like a natural for them. Of course that could change next year...

The thing about once-daily service from SLC by B6 is that it is the strategy they used in the SFO and SAN markets (with apparent success, as reported by Jetbluefan1 in reply 11) as well as JFK (and only 2x daily from LGB)... Personally, I think the 190s are on they way west and these SLC routes would be perfect candidates for that airplane and for an increase in frequency on all of these routes (gate space permitting, of course!)

May I assume this in NOT the big announcement B6 was rumored to be making this month?  Smile However,

Quoting B6FA4ever (Reply 2):
I also wonder where the plane will be coming from. either some other route will be added to SLC so the airbus plane will be ready for the BUR run...or we're gonna be retiming the SFO or one of the LGB flights. we'll see

This is a very good point. Unless there is a complete schedule re-work in SLC, this BUR turnaround means something else is happening at SLC on Dec 15... Maybe system-wide?????

bb


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting B6FA4ever (Thread starter):

think we can see SLC possibly ever becoming a focus city?

It already is a defacto focus city because of David Neeleman's religious leanings

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
Seems like a bizarre route to me, and I live near BUR. Maybe they are after the Park City winter crowd, especially for Sundance?

That could be a minor reason, but the major reason seems to be a bit of tithing.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 7):

Probably, and let's not forget, JetBlue has a lot of employees + perhaps some facilities in SLC. Reservations, etc

jetBlue doesn't have a proper call center, however. They use a phone system that redirects calls to people's homes.



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User currently offlineSkip17 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
think we can see SLC possibly ever becoming a focus city?

It already is a defacto focus city because of David Neeleman's religious leanings

Probably has to do more with the fact that he used to live in Salt Lake CIty as well as the fact he was the President of Morris Air which had heavy roots at SLC. Not sure that it has to do with the fact he is ?mormon? Haven't really heard lately of any airline executives starting routes to Rome because they're Catholic.

Besides, its simply cherry-picking routes away from Delta etc etc

They don't have any mid-west focus cities anyway, so this could be a start to building a "real" national network.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21456 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Well I guess if DL can expand at JFK, B6 can do so at SLC. I'd love to see B6 open a hub there, as it would mean that us west coasters can go more places on B6 without them trying to connect us in JFK and backtrack.


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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4233 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
jetBlue doesn't have a proper call center, however. They use a phone system that redirects calls to people's homes.

From what I recall, you are correct. It just so happens that those people's homes happen to be in Utah and not India (like some other carriers). I am assuming that they must have some sort of call center on or near SLC airport though.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting Skip17 (Reply 15):

Probably has to do more with the fact that he used to live in Salt Lake CIty as well as the fact he was the President of Morris Air which had heavy roots at SLC. Not sure that it has to do with the fact he is ?mormon? Haven't really heard lately of any airline executives starting routes to Rome because they're Catholic.

There is a big difference. While tithing is encouraged among Catholics as well as the various Protestant sects, it is not pushed the same as it is among Mormons. In fact, there were articles about the reservations lines going to Utah as well as his opening of JFK-SLC before JFK-SYR (which raised the ire of the New York politicians who helped B6 get unprecedented access at JFK) being part of his tithing.

Quoting Skip17 (Reply 15):


They don't have any mid-west focus cities anyway, so this could be a start to building a "real" national network.

SLC isn't the midwest

Quoting Richierich (Reply 17):
It just so happens that those people's homes happen to be in Utah and not India (like some other carriers).

I believe the call centers in India are traditional ones.

Quoting Richierich (Reply 17):
I am assuming that they must have some sort of call center on or near SLC airport though.

Don't think so



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User currently offlineMastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

I could be wrong, but I would think that this is just to squeeze some extra aircraft utilization between the JFK-BUR and BUR-JFK flights.

I'm excited for this, however, as SLC-BUR is my most traveled route. Delta has matched prices on their SLC-SAN flights, hopefully they'll follow suit with SLC-BUR.


User currently offlinePdxcof9 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

WN doesn't have a flight to BUR. Only on OO. Well this is good news for me. I won't have to be moving as many BUR bags.

And it's 4X day Mo Th Fr Su and 3X the other days.



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User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Interesting route! I think it'll benefit JetBlue in a positive way though.


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User currently offlineSkip17 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
There is a big difference. While tithing is encouraged among Catholics as well as the various Protestant sects, it is not pushed the same as it is among Mormons. In fact, there were articles about the reservations lines going to Utah as well as his opening of JFK-SLC before JFK-SYR (which raised the ire of the New York politicians who helped B6 get unprecedented access at JFK) being part of his tithing.

Quoting Skip17 (Reply 15):


They don't have any mid-west focus cities anyway, so this could be a start to building a "real" national network.


SLC isn't the midwest

So post the articles. We all know the press is ALWAYS right.  Yeah sure I see your point though, and agree mormons are pressured more than other religions to return and support the church. Buuuut, a claim like, a route is introduced for tithing paying? Thats a little extreme without proof.

Where would you say SLC is? The West Coast? ...not quite. Next time I'll be more careful when classifying where an airport is...possibly the exact longitude and lattitude??  Wink


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting Skip17 (Reply 22):

Where would you say SLC is? The West Coast? ..

Intermountain West.



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User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

Quoting Skip17 (Reply 15):
Probably has to do more with the fact that he used to live in Salt Lake CIty as well as the fact he was the President of Morris Air which had heavy roots at SLC. Not sure that it has to do with the fact he is ?mormon? Haven't really heard lately of any airline executives starting routes to Rome because they're Catholic.

Honestly, its because of the 2,000 employees that are based in SLC.



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25 Post contains links Jkudall : They do have a corporate office in Cottonwood Heights (about 20 min from the SLC airport) containing much of their customer service devision (includi
26 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : It is required for clearance (a recommend) to attend and participate in temple ceremonies. Mormons began to push it as a commandment at the turn of t
27 WJ : They would make this remark because its both funny and true...
28 Post contains images SANFan : As I mentioned earlier in my post on this thread, This new r/t originates in SLC (at around 3pm), flies to BUR, spends :40 on the ground in Californi
29 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : Rockie Mountains, or the west, wild west, intermountain west, mountain time zone, certainly not the mid west. I would never even classify DEN as the
30 SKYYBLUE : Nice. Now lets get some SLC-FLL.
31 Icebird757 : The 190s could show up operating from SLC to west coast cities in May 2008........atleast that is the rumor going around.
32 Jkudall : Well if they plan on expanding substantially, they are going to have a hard time finding extra gates.
33 FlightShadow : I'm surprised they have the gates to expand to BUR; there's not a lot of room in SLC's A Concourse right now. Is it possible they "borrow" someone el
34 NASBWI : I wouldn't go that far. Besides, Neeleman is no longer "in charge". Yes, he is on the BOD, but that doesn't mean that the current CEO/COO have no say
35 LACA773 : I hope BUR-SLC works for B6! Hats off to them for going up against DLX. Does anyone know how their BUR-JFK flights are doing? Maybe we'll see them add
36 JetBluefan1 : It's one of the most profitable routes in the system. JetBluefan1
37 Jkudall : Well it's not a huge response, but DL is now going to add a 5th SLC-BUR flight (CRJ) starting December 19th.
38 AgnusBymaster : SLC is a likely focus city for JetBlue, especially because of their mormon routes. However, if they start adding too many routes, they can expect some
39 JetBlueAUS : The mormon routes? Hmm... then I guess that DL should be considered a mormon airline, since they have a hub there. Neeleman is Mormon. However, he is
40 SANFan : Huh? An excellent reason to establish a focus city... Not that it really makes any more sense, but did you mean "Mormon roots"? (I apologize if you w
41 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : B6 looks like they want to be a competitor in the SLC market but like WN and basically delta now they have NO more room to expand in SLC. This is unti
42 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : B6 looks like they want to be a competitor in the SLC market but like WN and basically delta now they have NO more room to expand in SLC. This is unti
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