SLCUT2777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1107 times:
Quoting Pdxcof9 (Thread starter): So I searched for this and saw that no one announced this!! SA)">OO got DOT approval to do SLC-CDC again!!!
Thankfully they are back at CDC, since MESA couldn't make a GO of it (no pun intended !). If they really wanted CDC service to work for their parent carrier, they would have had to succeed with their ill fated take-over of DL, otherwise it would have been better to go 1x LAS and 1x PHX. Not fun for many who just want a quick and easy trip to SLC without spending 4-5 hours driving north on I-15.
Imapilotaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1107 times:
Im curious on how this is a victory for CDC? The vast majority of the traffic from CDC is local to SLC. There is virtually no connect traffic (less than 40%). It has been widely reported that Mesa was carrying anywhere from 60-75% of the traffic that OO had been, so frankly, there was a much higher economic benefit to the community for connecting flights over LAS and PHX. The community sees no ecnonomic benefit for people flying local to SLC. They rent no cars, stay in no hotels, and eat relatively few meals in the community. Someone connecting to another destination likely is doing that. It is also virtually impossible to compete with OO in SGU with 7 flights daily to SLC and less than a 45 minute drive down I-25.
Sure they may get their $1m in AIP funding with OO someday (unlikely), but AIP funding isnt everything, counter to what airport managers will tell you.
The one mistake that Mesa made was to listen to the leaders of CDC and fly to SLC without a DL codeshare. Traffic to PHX on 1 trip is higher than it was with 2 trips to SLC.
Goldenshield From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1107 times:
Quoting Imapilotaz (Reply 3): Im curious on how this is a victory for CDC?
It's a victory because of Skywest's stable air service. Sure, some flights have been delayed or cancelled in the past, but it was nowhere near as clock-work as it has been with Mesa. That, and the constant shuffling of markets and flight times in order to keep the market hindered market growth as well. Heck, I remember one news report where some CDC passengers never got to CDC because the flight was never fueled through ELY, and so turned back to LAS and then cancelled. Speaking of which, LAS-ELY-CDC-LAS was a good attempt to make things meet, but because of the chronic lateness, among other things, it never worked for them in the long run.
As for the new bid, Mesa even had the gall to RE-bid on the city after saying that they were giving up. That action in itself was a sign that Mesa is very hypocritical in their business practices. Not only are they screwing passengers, but now they rebid for a contact that they could never meet, and broke out of.
Quote: The community sees no ecnonomic benefit for people flying local to SLC. They rent no cars, stay in no hotels, and eat relatively few meals in the community.
Many are business-people that commute from CDC. However, CDC is also home of world-famous Shakespeare and Dickens festivals, among others, which bring in a lot of money to Cedar City and the surrounding communities.
Quote: It is also virtually impossible to compete with OO in SGU with 7 flights daily to SLC and less than a 45 minute drive down I-25.
It is virtually impossible to compete with RELIABLE air service. People do not want SHODDY service. People do not want CHRONICALLY LATE service. They want reliable service.