Lrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 609 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
On Midwest's website ( http://www.midwestairlines.com/ ) there is a release stating that it will begin dumping M80s for A320s or B737NG. Anybody in the know have an idea which way they are leaning or will order? I'm thinking B737NG, but . . . you never know! Advance Thx for those w/ info!
Xtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 942 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
I'm no betting man, but I'm thinkin' they are going Boeing. Airbus makes a great product, but it's pretty sad an airline named US Airways flies a European aircraft. All joking aside, seeing as how MDW flew MD's for so long, I'm betting they could go to 73's and maybe some 71's if Air Tran will give them up.
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FRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1285 posts, RR: 16 Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
One would expect the airline to order the 737 (either 700 or 800) to replace their MD fleet (After all Airtran seems quite successfull with the 717/737 combo).
I do not know much about their finances, will they be able to secure enough financing to replace the whole MD fleet?
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JBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2278 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
It's been known for a long time now that YX wants to get rid of the MD-80s. This was known even before the FL merger went public.
For those that haven't kept up over the past year or so, the 717s will go to a "two-class," 40-signature and 59-saver seat setup.
Another forum member here said he had heard from within the company that 737s will be the replacements, and that this was one of Midwest's last major decisions as an independent company before the TPG offer was approved.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4553 posts, RR: 17 Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
Quoting 0NEWAIR0 (Reply 10): 1) I thought that durring the merger fuss that Midwest said they wanted A319s or 20s
2) I also heard that AirTran was/(still is?) trying to find a buyer to take some (all?) 717s
Midwest wanted the Airbii in order to create roadblocks to Airtran. They may still want to do so.
Are you saying that Airtran is trying to unload 717s? Never heard that, ever.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
Quoting 0NEWAIR0 (Reply 10): 2) I also heard that AirTran was/(still is?) trying to find a byer to take some (all?) 717s
I think you may have it backwards, AirTran has been trying to pick up any 717s that go on the open market. The 73G is not an ideal fit for all of FL's routes, and gives them flexibility in regards to scheduling as well. Plus, a large part of their 717 fleet is leased, as they sold and leased them back for some liquidity earlier in the decade. So they can just as easily just return them to the lessor when the lease is up.
Since the 717 has no commonality with the 737NG, it really is anyone's guess on whether they'll stick with Boeing or go with Airbus. With both the A320 family and the 737NG family both with 3X3 seating in coach, how would YX do their "Saver Service" cabin? Would they still do it 2X3, and wouldn't that make the aisle offset?
MKENut From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
Tim has been talking about replacing the MD80's for almost 2 years now. I hope they choose the A320 so FL can't use fleet commonality as a reason to merge with YX in the future. Also I suspect ERJ's will be on order within a year or two.
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10649 posts, RR: 100 Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 1): Since the MD80s have been so good for Midwest I'd hope they'd go with Boeing. But this may come down to whoever gives them the best deal.
It could come down to manufacturing slots. Airbus is working on creating quite a few more. Boeing would have an easier time ramping up, but hasn't been that motivated to do so. Yes, the AA order looks to be perking up Boeing production.