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Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)  
User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3184 times:

Hello to all,

I just received some very unique and interesting parts of aviation history...

Three Eastern Airlines Flight Attendant Bid Sheets for the Chicago base.
They are from April, May, and June of 1985!

There is some very interesting stuff here!

Please feel free to ask me anything you would like about them.

In-fact, that is the sole purpose of this post, so ask away!!!


TWA1985

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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3184 times:

Any chance or way of scanning them to be posted?


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User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1599 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3184 times:

Cool! What are typical turn times between flights? I'm sure it's much longer than the 30-40 minutes I have these days. I remember spending lots of time sitting in Row 1 with my feet up on the wall eating my crew meal while the cleaners and caterers did their thing. Now the agents open the door and ask, "Last off, first on?" Thanks.

User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3184 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
Any chance or way of scanning them to be posted?

Sorry, but I am at school and won't have access to a scanner for a while. But I will try to scan some images when I go home next week.

Any other questions?


TWA1985


User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

"What are typical turn times between flights?"

The quickest turn time I saw was about 1 hour, but most were anywhere from 90 minutes to about 3 hours!

The layovers were also quite long, for example....

The FA's would arrive CLT at 1:04 pm and did not have to fly back to ORD until 11:50 am the next day.

Also, time between continuing flights tended to be a little bit shorter, between 35 minutes to a little under 1 hour.

If you would like to know anything else, or more specific details then please let me know.


TWA1985


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 3):
Any other questions?

How many hours were the lines built?

What aircraft are they for?

How many crew per line/aircraft?

What cities were available for layovers?

Were they long/short?

What was a long duty day?

What were city pairings for turns?

Any international?

[Edited 2007-10-08 17:07:06]


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User currently offlineVegas005 From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2880 times:

Eastern used one of the first ever computer bid systems called ACM and PCM (attendant crew management and pilot crew management) using a VIPS (Voice Information Processing System) which was a dial in system. The sheets were either the product of this system or used by the employee to bid I would guess. Please scan them so we can see!!

User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2880 times:

EWRCabinCrew:

How many hours were the lines built?

Anywhere from 7 hours (turns), to 65 hours (Generally three day trips).

What aircraft are they for?

DC-9-31, DC-9-51, Boeing 727-100, Boeing 727-200, and A-300.

How many crew per line/aircraft?

All A-300 flights required 6 FA’s.
The 727 flights generally required 3 to 4 FA’s.
The DC-9 flights required 2 to 3 FA’s.

What cities were available for layovers?

SJU, ATL, PVD, MCI, ORF, CLT, SRQ, GNV, BOS, DCA, RIC, MIA, CAE.

Were they long/short?

The shortest was 8 hours with the majority lasting around 20 to 23 hours.
There were a few that lasted 32 hours! (All in PVD though- kind of strange)
Most of the warm destinations such as SRQ, MIA, and SJU had the longer layovers.

What was a long duty day?

I am not sure exactly what you mean by this, but the longest day I see (Starting from Departure of the first flight and ending with the landing of the final flight of the day) was 12 hours, but most lasted between 7 and 9 hours.

What were city pairings for turns?

Turns included: ORD-IAH, ORD-ATL, ORD-MCI, ORD-CLT, & ORD-SRQ.

Any international?

Yes, there were a few international lines to Canadian cities such as YUL. There were also lines to SJU, NAS, and SDQ.


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2880 times:

Most cool with the info, TWA. Thank you. I love this stuff.


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User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 7):
65 hours (Generally three day trips).

65 HOURS for a 3-day trip?!?! How is that even possible?!


User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Hello Everyone,

Here is the entire April, 1985 Bid Sheet. Enjoy!


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

TWA...Most awesome!!! Thank you. 22-23 years later and they are still the same. Amazing how some things really don't change.

Very appreciative for you scanning them and showing us.

Bill



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Wow, blast from the past...from the year I was born no less (at the risk of sounding like a kid armchair CEO  Wink)

Very cool stuff...interesting to see this once-great airline and how she operated.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

You are all very welcome!

And "DeltaGuy," I too was born in 1985 and feel exactly the same way you do!

I would scan in the other two Bid Sheets, but they are almost identicle, with the exception of new ORD-IAH and ORD-LAX turns.

Also, in June, the new Automated Bid Awards System goes into effect for July- though the exact details are not given on the sheet I have.

Can anyone emlighten us on this? Just how automated was it? Anything like today?

TWA1985


User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

I can't see anything.

Bandwidth exceeded.  Sad

The file is unavailable because this user has ran out of bandwidth.
Please try again later.

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 9):
Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 7):
65 hours (Generally three day trips).

I'm still very curious about this if anyone can read the sheets....


User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

They images are back up! I guess the site I used to upload these cannot exceed a certain bandwith.

Enjoy!


TWA1985


User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

Sorry Everyone, if the images are not available, just check back later and the bandwith will be reset.

In the meantime, here are a few of the pages that you should be able to see without waiting for the bandwith.

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