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User currently offlineRyanrap1 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 194 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

Does anyone know any insight on Mesa Air Groups flight attendant situation. I notice that they are having recruiting sessions weekly, is this because their is a large need to hire flight attendants, or another reason? Anyone with any insight on Mesa?

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User currently offlineKstatepilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

Well, I can tell you they are quite short on all flight crews right now. I think alot of the F/A's they do have are leaving for other jobs. Mesa has a habit of hiring younger flight attendants that want the glamor. When they find out they actually have to work, alot of them leave...

User currently offlineRyanrap1 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

Is Mesa a good airline to work for, do they have good benefits?

User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

Mesa is always hiring. The F/A turnover rate is fairly high and some don't even make it through the initial class or IOE. Those who do stay are not going to make a lifelong career out of it and will move on in probably a year or 2 so the need to fill those slots and new ones that may come up is an ongoing process. Until some major changes are made at Mesa (getting rid of J.O. and M.L.) the employees will continue to be treated unfairly. The various union reps try to make it better but the upper management does not want to let them have their way. It's really to bad because the employees at Mesa are some of the best it's just that when you have upper management like they do it makes the whole operation look horrible.

User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

Quoting Ryanrap1 (Reply 2):
Is Mesa a good airline to work for, do they have good benefits?

What kind of benifits are you looking for? Flying, Healthcare, etc?



I know on the US side you get the US flight benifits ontop of the Mesa flight benifits. If you are employed by Mesa you get free S/A travel on any Mesa flight or any mesa wholly owned airline (Freedom-DL Connection, Mesa-UA/US Express, GO! or Air Midwest-US Express) There is also a nice ID90/ZED package that you can look into if you like to travel. Healthcare is average depending on what package you need so thats a personal choice.


User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3424 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

My dad had a conversation with a YX FA on a recent flight.

He'd heard some Mesa stories and was interested how she liked it so far (she was new)

FA: I love it! I'm so happy they hired me! They'll hire anyone!
Pa: [laughing] I'm not sure that came out right.
FA: No! Really, they'll hire anyone!
Pa: [still laughing] OK...



When in doubt, one B pump off
User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

Is Mesa going to hire local people for their China operation? I know in Hawaii and the states are in need of help.

chuck


User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

YX is Midwest not Mesa. Are you sure your talking about Mesa (YV)?

User currently offlineKstatepilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

About the China (Shinjun Airlines) I know for pilots they are using YV captains, and Chinese first officers. I am sure they will use Chinese F/A's also.

BTW anywhere on Mesa you get US benefits. You only get UA/DL privileges if you fly for one of those airlines. At least that is the way for pilot's


User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3424 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

Quoting Freshlove1 (Reply 7):

My bad, its been a long day. Yes, I meant YV.



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User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

Quoting Kstatepilot (Reply 8):
BTW anywhere on Mesa you get US benefits. You only get UA/DL privileges if you fly for one of those airlines. At least that is the way for pilot's

Incorrect you have to be part of the US system to get the compleat US travel benifits. If you are working under Mesa and are on the UA side you do not get US benifits, the only thing you would get is benifits for any Mesa operated US flight. If you are a Mesa employee and want to fly a UA express flight operated by Mesa you get free S/A travel on the Mesa operated UA flights same with Delta, it would have to be the same thing, a Mesa employee flying on a Freedom/DL Connection flight.


User currently offlineRyanrap1 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

I go for a Mesa Interview tomorrow, and advice, tips, or comments are more than welcomed!

User currently offlineRyanrap1 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Being a new flight attendant, what is a likely base for me to be located?

User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1662 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting Ryanrap1 (Reply 12):
Being a new flight attendant, what is a likely base for me to be located?

I have a friend from HS who is in training right now, and he said his initial bid base city is IAD and then he will likely get transferred to ORD.



Home Airport: Capital Region International Airport (KLAN)
User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

With most of the other regionals and majors hiring, why on earth would anyone want to work for Mesa?? Bottom-of-the-barrel pay and no medical coverage? Not to mention their stellar reputation in the industry.  Yeah sure
Sounds like anyone that wants to work there is a glutton for punishment.


User currently offlineKstatepilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting Freshlove1 (Reply 10):
Incorrect you have to be part of the US system to get the compleat US travel benifits.

Then how come I fly on the UA system (ORD based) but my parents are going to HNL this month on US? I have the packets sitting right here... At least this is the way for the pilot's

Quoting Drewwright (Reply 14):
Bottom-of-the-barrel pay and no medical coverage?

The medical coverage isn't that bad. The pay is quite a bit more than other regionals flying the same equipment.

Quoting Drewwright (Reply 14):
why on earth would anyone want to work for Mesa??

How about for the people? YV has some of the best people working for them.

Good Luck!! Hope to see you on the line somewhere!!


User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4288 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting Freshlove1 (Reply 10):
ncorrect you have to be part of the US system to get the compleat US travel benifits. If you are working under Mesa and are on the UA side you do not get US benifits, the only thing you would get is benifits for any Mesa operated US flight. If you are a Mesa employee and want to fly a UA express flight operated by Mesa you get free S/A travel on the Mesa operated UA flights same with Delta, it would have to be the same thing, a Mesa employee flying on a Freedom/DL Connection flight.

I am a little confused. How do they keep track of these things? For most regional airlines, you can fly trips for just about any carrier. Air Wisconsin during the transition had guys from UA bases flying for US. If crews are needed in other bases, ie a US crew would be needed for a UA trip on the Dash 8, wouldn't they deadhead a dash 8 crew from PHX up to DEN for example to pick up the trip? If you build trips like this, there is no way to keep track of who is who. And if you are a dispatcher, do they only keep you on one desk or do you work flights for everybody. I have a buddy who flies for SkyWest, and he flies only UA trips, but has benefits on both Delta and UA. Why can't mesa do this?

FutureFO, if you are reading this, how do the benefits work at Chautaqua. Do you get benefits on all 6 carriers you are affiliated with, or just who you fly trips for?


User currently offlineKstatepilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting Apodino (Reply 16):
Why can't mesa do this?

From what the benefits department told us it is because UA only lets people that actually fly for them to get their benefits. YV is a little different than other regionals. If you are based at ORD, BNA or IAD you only fly UA routes. If you are based in CLT or PHX you only fly US routes. At other regionals (Shuttle for example) my friend is based in IND and flies for both UA and DL on the same day. YV just isn't built that way.

Now if they are short in ORD, they can have a pilot or F/A from CLT or PHX come in for up to a 4 month TDY and augment the crews there.


User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3424 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting Kstatepilot (Reply 15):
How about for the people? YV has some of the best people working for them

I'm sorry, but it seems every employee at a lousy regional says this. I'm not doubting that there are good people at Mesa, TSA, Lakes, etc., but it seems to be almost an excuse for staying and a justification for putting up with managment's games. Unless you are implying that better places to work have lousy employees (the don't ), this isn't really much of a good reason. Please don't take that as a personal attack; it wasn't intedented as such.



When in doubt, one B pump off
User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting Kstatepilot (Reply 15):
Then how come I fly on the UA system (ORD based) but my parents are going to HNL this month on US? I have the packets sitting right here... At least this is the way for the pilot's

It may be that way for the pilots because they are swapped between systems. I am talking about the CSR's and Ramp employees in the company. The Pilot group has a different set of rules, It is not the same for CSR's and Rampers.


User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting Ryanrap1 (Reply 12):
Being a new flight attendant, what is a likely base for me to be located?

Depends where they are short. You probably will get IAD on the UA side or maybe JFK on the DL side, it really all depends on what is needed where


User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting Drewwright (Reply 14):
no medical coverage?

What are you talking about? They offer Medical Coverage, it is your choice if you want it or not.


User currently offlineKstatepilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting Freshlove1 (Reply 19):
The Pilot group has a different set of rules, It is not the same for CSR's and Rampers.

Yeah, but a F/A, like the op said, will probably work on both systems.


User currently offlineLoggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7759 times:

Quoting Kstatepilot (Reply 15):
The medical coverage isn't that bad. The pay is quite a bit more than other regionals flying the same equipment.

Can I ask who exactly you would be referring to here?



There are 3 types of people in this world, those that can count, and those that can't.
User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7759 times:

If you are appling for a flight attendant job my advice is stay far away from Mesa. I have witnessed a crew doing a stand up having to stay at the airport because Mesa doesn't provide hotels -- at least that is what they said. Mesa FA's start at a VERY low $15 something a flight hour -- you don't have pay protection -- and like so many others have said you don't have a lot of respect from anyone working for Mesa. Go to a mainline carrier like United or US Airways who are hiring. If you want to work for a good regional airline head over to Skywest, Air Wisconsin, Horizon -- Comair is probably getting better -- I don't think I'd go to ASA --- Midwest Airlines was hiring -- try them. But really stay away from Mesa.


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25 Doug_Or : For those of you outside the industry that means ORD FA can expect 75 x 15 - taxes and deductions (does that include uniform @ Mesa?) = your monthly
26 Flight152 : Anyone applying for ANY job at Mesa, hasn't done their research.
27 Doug_Or : I should have elaborated or at least quoted better. My above hotel comment was directed only at stand-ups (CDOs, high speeds- call them what you will,
28 Freshlove1 : They tried that but it did not get far (Apparently someone didn't read the company policy) and now each member gets their own room, besides it is com
29 Doug_Or : Thanks for the update.
30 Kstatepilot : So are you saying that because I went to YV I decided to get $4.00 more per flight hour than Pinnacle. I get to be based where I want. I have the opt
31 ATWZW170 : Good lord -- you have drank the kool-aid. Please don't defend Mesa Airlines. There is no work group who has a better contract than any other regional.
32 Post contains images Elcableguy77 : I've bumped into a few fellow F/As that fly for YV or have in the past, and I have yet to hear anything flattering about them at all. If you're lookin
33 FutureFO : Ok for CHQ you get the benefits of the base that you are at. When I was in SDF I got UA/US/DL/CO. I am now at Republic and I get F9 and US. I would pe
34 Kstatepilot : I'm not saying YV is great. I am saying it is better than alot of other regionals. Yes the 8 days off per month is crap. Yes sometimes management take
35 Freshlove1 : Are you sure you work for Mesa? The pilots at Mesa are drastically underpaid from the Beech 1900 to the CRJ-900 and everything else inbetween. The pa
36 Doug_Or : If you ignore work rules and only look at hourly rate, Mesa isn't the worst in any category. Reality may be diffrent, but it provides ammunition for
37 Doug_Or : If you ignore work rules and only look at hourly rate, Mesa isn't the worst in any category. Reality may be diffrent, but it provides ammunition for
38 Loggat : Good one!
39 Kstatepilot : According to airline pilot central (http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com) pay rates are as follows for F/O 1st year: YV Jet $22 Prop:$19 AE $24 for both
40 Freshlove1 : Express Jet 1st year F/O $23 Express Jet 2nd year F/O $34 Express Jet 18 year F/O $43 Mesa 1st year Jet F/O $22 Mesa 2nd year Jet F/O $29 Mesa 20 year
41 Rjwrench85 : Actually the Joint Venture between Shenzen Airlines and Mesa Airlines is "Kunpeng Airlines" based in Xi'an for now ZLXY until we get permission to mo
42 FutureFO : Also there is nothing like getting paid block or less. Everyone else pays block or better. So at YV you get paid actual even if it is less than the bl
43 Dsuairptman : F/A turnover is high at pretty much any regional and YV is no exception. Suffice that we do have our share of F/As with pretty high employee numbers.
44 Kstatepilot : Actually I have people in my class (we haven't started sim yet) that have all ready been assigned to all the bases. I have and want ORD for now. Howe
45 Post contains images Alias1024 : Hourly rate is only a small part of the pay picture. Duty rigs, trip rigs, and minimum daily guarantees do more to increase pay and QOL than an extra
46 Apodino : Thats interesting, because Air WIsconsin only bids days off and evening or morning shift. When Air Wisconsin had both United Flying and USAirways fly
47 Georgebush : You just listed three reason why they DO suck. Mesa has something like 60% working APU's on their regional jets. They are a rag tag airline, and if y
48 Flight152 : You sound like a disgruntled Mesa employee to me, or just naive.
49 Loggat : Here at Republic, we keep hearing from all the LAMA's about how Republic "is better than it was at Mesa." It is a detriment to the growth and improvem
50 Post contains links Flight152 : According to Mesa's website- Current first year First Officer pay is $18.88 per flight hour for turboprops and $21.30 per flight hour for Regional Je
51 Kstatepilot : Your right. I even have a pic of the first aircraft on my desktop.
52 Freshlove1 : What are you talking about? This statement is compleat B.S. There is a large group of them that are in their early 20's-30's, I am sure there are a f
53 FutureFO : The 20 year olds are the ones who have no other job experience. So they think that YV is the cats meow as it were.
54 Kstatepilot : Isn't it kindof funny we have a YV bash every month or so?
55 Post contains images Elcableguy77 : I certainly am not a habitual Mesa-basher, though, if I ever get to thinking how things at ZW suck, I just think about what life would be like if I we
56 Kstatepilot : Same thing for me. I think about Pinnacle, Great Lakes, Comair, ASA, etc... including my old job flying 135 freight. And then I remember that in 2 yea
57 Post contains images Crjflyer35 : Yeah, cause that's a reason to judge someone on their ability to safely care for 50 pax......
58 Freshlove1 : Or so you think. I'll bet big $$$ that it will be more then 2 years. I have seen it time and time again where people are held back for large amounts
59 Dsuairptman : The way ZW assigns the same aircraft to the same desk is exactly how YV operates and yes it makes it very nice when you work the same desk with the s
60 Dsuairptman : The way ZW assigns the same aircraft to the same desk is exactly how YV operates and yes it makes it very nice when you work the same desk with the s
61 Dsuairptman : The way ZW assigns the same aircraft to the same desk is exactly how YV operates and yes it makes it very nice when you work the same desk with the s
62 RJwrench85 : Actually 1 OOS in UA, 0 in go!, 2 in US/HP and I cant get Freedom right now. Unless you know dont state figures on MX please. As far as flight attend
63 Freshlove1 : I believe the original poster , who I replied to was referring to Mesa F/A's being overweight and over 50.
64 Apodino : 5 Releases an hour vs 12? Something doesn't sound right here. So basically you are either doing 50 releases a shift or 120? I don't mean to be rude,
65 Loggat : Yes I do fly for a UAX partner. The difference between my company and yours is that while our planes are sitting in the penalty box, the pilots are m
66 Dsuairptman : The break down in hourly releases is due to the fact that UA has massive hub banks while US generally operates more of a rolling schedule. Another th
67 Freshlove1 : Go to ICT and work on the ZV desk. That is a train wreck on a daily basis and even when you tell them what should be on the release they are like "ok
68 Dsuairptman : I do not know first hand what the situation is like. ZV operates as its own arm of MAG, very much seperated from its PHX based first cousin's. I do no
69 CRJ200FAGuy : Dude, you need to get over your problems with 9E. They may treat their employees like crap, but they are better than Mesa. I'm not a 9E apologist, bu
70 SNCntry32 : We have more good people then the bad. Listen Dsuairptman, you chose to work there, nobody stuck a gun to your head and said work at 9E. Maybe you sh
71 Dsuairptman : Hell will freeze over a long time before I get over 9E, don't ever suggest that to me again. You only make a fool of yourself when you say YV is Wors
72 Dsuairptman : First of all, I'm dispatcher fellas. Second I damn well choose to leave 9E as YV offered me a far better job and pay check that put me above poverty
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