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12 New SAS Routes From Oslo  
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4021 times:

SAS Norway is introducing 12 new routes from Oslo from the summer schedule of 2008 and introduces a new concept called SAS Leisure

http://wpy.waymaker.net/client/wayma...File.aspx?id=568584&fn=wkr0018.pdf

(Sorry, but link only in Norwegian)

The SAS Leisure concept will have a dedicated fleet of 8 737 and fly to typical tourist destinations mainly in Southern Europe and Poland as seems to be a response to Norwegian Air Shuttle success on routes like this. SAS Norway claims that this is a different concept than the Snowflake disaster that has been tried in Denmark and Sweden earlier.

The 12 new routes are (Frequencies are not yet released, but I'll guess on 1-4 weekly on all of them):
Malta, Bilbao, Valencia, Palermo, Cagliari, Lyon, Venezia, Sevilla, Bristol, Krakow, Gdansk, and Tenerife


SAS Norway has neither said where they will get the capacity from, as they would need more aircraft, nor is any more details of the concept revealed other than they claimed they have been able to reduce the costs enough so that they're able to operate this routes. Don't know whether this will be Economy class only routes or if they will operate with Economy and Economy Extra as they to most of their Southern European destinations out of OSL today

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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3699 times:

Sounds more like a Finnair concept to me. Doh!

User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1756 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3699 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Thread starter):
Malta

Brilliant, sounds like a plan for another non-reving adventure. ZRH-OSL-MLA. So if I understand correctly the flights will have now Business Class at all?


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Again this proves that the money is in transporting leisure fare passengers. Business class has become "nice if you can get it" but not gauranteed.

This is an exciting development for SAS and the people of Oslo.


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1756 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 3):
Again this proves that the money is in transporting leisure fare passengers. Business class has become "nice if you can get it" but not gauranteed.

I think one can hardly make such a generalisation. First of all there's a difference if you're flying short or long-haul. If you look at longhaul, in actual fact the tendency is to do away with the loss-making Y class fare altogether on some routes by offering only a C class product. The number of new Business airlines like EOS, Maxjet, Silverjet L'Avion etc testify to that.

Within the short-haul segment, I really think there are differences in demand for a Y and C class product depending on what market you're looking at. Other than that I think it should tell you something that SAS's business model has not exactly found a great folllowing among the airlines of Europe...


User currently offlineKrushny From Spain, joined Dec 2000, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Great!! I believe this is the first link I remember from VLC to Scandinavia . The fjords are closer !!

User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Quoting Krushny (Reply 5):
Great!! I believe this is the first link I remember from VLC to Scandinavia . The fjords are closer !!

Ryanair will fly NYO-VLC and NB CPH-VLC too.


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 4):
in actual fact the tendency is to do away with the loss-making Y class fare altogether on some routes by offering only a C class product.

Maybe not everything in the J class world is so rosy.

[QUOTE]MAXjet Post 6 Month Loss [QUOTE] Posted Mon Sep 24 2007 06:00:23

[QUOTE]Well EOS and L'Avion are private and dont have to report earnings, however Silverjet for its latest earnings report also showed a loss. Loss: (£18.2mil)[QUOTE]Reply 5, posted Mon Sep 24 2007 06:29:31

By moving J onto another aircraft, unless they have downsized the original aircraft, then they have in fact increased the number of their Y seats available.


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1756 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

I just saw in the online Times of Malta that from April Norwegian will also be operating to Malta from OSL twice a week and from what I could make out on the Air Malta homepage, they operate to OSL as well. Can there possibly be enough demand to warrant three carriers on the route?

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
Brilliant, sounds like a plan for another non-reving adventure. ZRH-OSL-MLA. So if I understand correctly the flights will have now Business Class at all?

They will operate with 2 classes: Economy and Economy Extra just as most of SAS other Southern European routes (With a few exemptions such as MAD)


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2909 times:

The schedules are as followed

Bilbao - 2weeklu - Thur, Sun
Bristol - 3weekly - Tue, Thur, Sun
Cagliari - 1weekly - Sat
Gdansk - 3weekly - Mon, Wed, Sat
Krakow - 3weekly - Tue, Thur, Sun
Lyon - 3weekly - Mon, Wed, Fri
Malta - 2weekly - Tue, Sat
Palermo - 1weekly - Sat
Sevilla - 2 weekly - Thur, Sat
Tenerife - 2 weekly - Tue, Sat
Valencia - 2 weekly - Thur, Sun
Venezia - 1weekly - Sat

All flights are scheduled with 737-700


User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 810 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Thread starter):
SAS Norway is introducing 12 new routes from Oslo from the summer schedule of 2008 and introduces a new concept called SAS Leisure

Brilliant.Just what SAS needs. a new concept. Wink



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2779 times:

Quoting Flyboy_se (Reply 11):
Quoting Someone83 (Thread starter):
SAS Norway is introducing 12 new routes from Oslo from the summer schedule of 2008 and introduces a new concept called SAS Leisure

Brilliant.Just what SAS needs. a new concept.

Hasn't SK already tried a similar venture in the past and failed? It was called "Snowflake".


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Edit: I see Snowflake was already mentioned in an earlier posting. I missed it previously.

[Edited 2007-10-15 15:55:39]

User currently offlineBBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

Wow! Seems like SAS are going head on against Norwegian AS on OSL-MLA, operating on the same days: Tuesdays (which is the busiest day at MLA for charter flights) and Saturdays (which is the busiest day for Nordic flights ex-MLA). Moreover, FR has said several times that Oslo-Torp will be one of their first destinations when they open a base at MLA.

For the moment, it seems that Air Malta's last MLA-OSL flight is scheduled for the end of November (just like their flights to ARN).

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