The SAS Leisure concept will have a dedicated fleet of 8 737 and fly to typical tourist destinations mainly in Southern Europe and Poland as seems to be a response to Norwegian Air Shuttle success on routes like this. SAS Norway claims that this is a different concept than the Snowflake disaster that has been tried in Denmark and Sweden earlier.
The 12 new routes are (Frequencies are not yet released, but I'll guess on 1-4 weekly on all of them):
Malta, Bilbao, Valencia, Palermo, Cagliari, Lyon, Venezia, Sevilla, Bristol, Krakow, Gdansk, and Tenerife
SAS Norway has neither said where they will get the capacity from, as they would need more aircraft, nor is any more details of the concept revealed other than they claimed they have been able to reduce the costs enough so that they're able to operate this routes. Don't know whether this will be Economy class only routes or if they will operate with Economy and Economy Extra as they to most of their Southern European destinations out of OSL today
Knightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1536 posts, RR: 18 Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3289 times:
Quoting Babybus (Reply 3): Again this proves that the money is in transporting leisure fare passengers. Business class has become "nice if you can get it" but not gauranteed.
I think one can hardly make such a generalisation. First of all there's a difference if you're flying short or long-haul. If you look at longhaul, in actual fact the tendency is to do away with the loss-making Y class fare altogether on some routes by offering only a C class product. The number of new Business airlines like EOS, Maxjet, Silverjet L'Avion etc testify to that.
Within the short-haul segment, I really think there are differences in demand for a Y and C class product depending on what market you're looking at. Other than that I think it should tell you something that SAS's business model has not exactly found a great folllowing among the airlines of Europe...
Babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3629 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3289 times:
Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 4): in actual fact the tendency is to do away with the loss-making Y class fare altogether on some routes by offering only a C class product.
Maybe not everything in the J class world is so rosy.
[QUOTE]MAXjet Post 6 Month Loss [QUOTE] Posted Mon Sep 24 2007 06:00:23
[QUOTE]Well EOS and L'Avion are private and dont have to report earnings, however Silverjet for its latest earnings report also showed a loss. Loss: (Â£18.2mil)[QUOTE]Reply 5, posted Mon Sep 24 2007 06:29:31
By moving J onto another aircraft, unless they have downsized the original aircraft, then they have in fact increased the number of their Y seats available.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
Knightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1536 posts, RR: 18 Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3289 times:
I just saw in the online Times of Malta that from April Norwegian will also be operating to Malta from OSL twice a week and from what I could make out on the Air Malta homepage, they operate to OSL as well. Can there possibly be enough demand to warrant three carriers on the route?
BBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2340 times:
Wow! Seems like SAS are going head on against Norwegian AS on OSL-MLA, operating on the same days: Tuesdays (which is the busiest day at MLA for charter flights) and Saturdays (which is the busiest day for Nordic flights ex-MLA). Moreover, FR has said several times that Oslo-Torp will be one of their first destinations when they open a base at MLA.
For the moment, it seems that Air Malta's last MLA-OSL flight is scheduled for the end of November (just like their flights to ARN).