Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21027 posts, RR: 60 Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8162 times:
That's gross, not net.
The US order, for example, is 72 net frames, not 92. September's net total was 791, not 845. That makes 791+72+30+50= 943 net orders, assuming the Wizz order is actually firm.
That's still amazing!
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Slz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8162 times:
Well, even after deducting the cancellations and previous signed orders from the total number, Airbus should be pretty close to the 1000 mark now, and there are still 2 and a half month to go, in which it is said several large orders are still pending!
If Airbus secures half of them, 2007 could turn out to be their best year EVER, also on the WB front!
And apart from Paris, historically, they still have the busiest part of their usual year to come.
A few more 380s and JLs cup will be flowing over. Now to build the b*****s!
Still, our very own (Aus) ABC has been assuring us on the Radio news, that QF has ordered 20 A380s and they will be delivered in June 2008 - not one but 20 according to them! So who knows what Airbus might be capable of! Just wish the ABC were correct. Probably so does QF.
It is also noticeable that far from fading away in the widebody field, Airbus must be having a record widebody year? I would look up the Airbus table, but my browser is not feeling well after having to fight with a.net. But that has to be about right. And the 330 is having a record year.
The only shadow on the horizon at present seems to be the rise and rise of the Euro - but that leaves the Eurozone sharing the same problems as a few other parts of the world! And quite a few of the bits are from USD areas.
DAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6993 times:
Congrats to Airbus. Looks like another tight race for the title of sales king this year, since Boeing also has several outstanding large orders.
CygnusChicago From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 758 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6844 times:
Absolutely stunning, especially the WB orders. Good job to Airbus, especially given that the WB orders are a nice spread of A330, A350 and A380, and not centered on only one type.
A320 sales, while stunningly strong, are slowing down a bit. Till when are slots sold out?
If you cannot do the math, your opinion means squat!
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8739 posts, RR: 52 Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5657 times:
It's good to see growth in the aviation industry and continued strong orders. That's good for all of aviation. I may be biased (for good reason) towards their competitor, but congratulations to Airbus.
Quoting CygnusChicago (Reply 1): A320 sales, while stunningly strong, are slowing down a bit. Till when are slots sold out?
I've heard it's sold out past 2010, but it's a vague number. Production numbers could change as Airbus is attempting to increase A320 production. Also, airpalnes are not ordered sequentially, so there are slots available to certain customers and some dates that are probably not firmed up before then.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
ER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2223 posts, RR: 8 Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5412 times:
The amazing run continues for another year (for both A & B). I didn't think we'd see this for a 3rd year in a row, but there it is nevertheless. Good times for the industry at least on the manufacturers' side. This ordering boom can't last forever, but the backlogs may tide both companies over during any upcoming downturn in the cycle. I hope so for the job security of our colleauges at both A & B.
BoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 57 Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5412 times:
Baroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 60 Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5412 times:
Quoting ER757 (Reply 16): This ordering boom can't last forever, but the backlogs may tide both companies over during any upcoming downturn in the cycle. I hope so for the job security of our colleagues at both A & B.
You would think that 80 dollar oil would have slowed orders. But the ABC Lateline Business commenting on the strength of the Qantas price opined that with some phrase like the moderation in the price of oil, the outlook was excellent. I guess Aus is a bit different as our rising dollar has been beneficial for oil priced in USD.
Astuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9136 posts, RR: 96 Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5221 times:
Quoting CygnusChicago (Reply 14): A320 sales, while stunningly strong, are slowing down a bit
Made me smile, this one, CC.
Comes to something when 650 orders in 9 months is a "slowdown", doesn't it?
Absolutely awesome!
It seems that every time they up the production rate, the backlog INCREASES.........
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21027 posts, RR: 60 Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5220 times:
Quoting Astuteman (Reply 22): Comes to something when 650 orders in 9 months is a "slowdown", doesn't it?
ROFL. No slowdown. They should book 900 or so by yearend.
And the 737NG will once again fall behind, as more new carriers choose the A320.
Despite the very strong overall sales in the world, this must be a concern for Boeing and it's why I think 737RS is moving along faster than some believe.
The future growth is in 125-300 seats, and Boeing wants to be a leader in that market. Right now Airbus is the leader in the narrowbody, and the "old" A330 is holding up against the 787 well enough, with the smaller A350 also garnering orders.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2880 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4817 times:
Does this 1000 firm orders for 2007, include the 50 A320's Wizzair the Central European LCC has annouced today?
Just curious, as this could add even more... Also how does it compare to Boeing?
Im not in anyway saying the information in this thread is not true, but is there any offical announcement or news article confirming this? A link would be cool!
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11708 posts, RR: 52 Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4393 times:
What is amazing is not that Airbus, or Boeing have already sold 800+ and 900+ airplanes this year. It is the fact the the two airplane manufacturing giants have sold a combined 5500+ airplanes over the last 3 years.
Congrads to Boeing
Congrads to Airbus
25 SB: Indeed! And 5500 aeroplanes means +/- 60 000 pilots to fly them. Granted many of these won't be new, but it's still good news for the training indust
26 Rj111: Great to see the industry so healthy these days.
27 CygnusChicago: Sorry, bad choice of words. My premise was based on the 737NG outselling (so far) the A320 for the second year in a row. Hence my question on slots -
28 Scbriml: As of Airbus's end of September figures (just released), it isn't. Add 60 for US, 50 for Wizz, 30 for Tiger, 20 for Vietnam and the A320 family is pu
29 Astuteman: ????? Isn't the 737 around 500 orders year-to-date? I'll stand corrected..... In any event, no apology required. We must be approaching the point whe
30 Prebennorholm: 32x output rate is said to be 32/month these days. Is planned to accelerate to 36/month from early 2009. 40/month will not be achieved until China as
31 Silentbob: Unless we're going to go back and subtract out the canceled orders from the last couple years, net orders are the most accurate. Otherwise, canceling
32 Astuteman: But there will still be months in the year when they don't hit these numbers (i.e. when holidays/Christmas) interfere with flat-out production. Hence
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