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AMC Airlines In Landing Accident At IST  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12321 posts, RR: 35
Posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13004 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/10/11/plane.turkey.ap/index.html

Not said what airline it was, but en route to WAW at the time.

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User currently onlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1658 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13006 times:

Wow, that sounds as a serious accident, let's hope all on board are fine!


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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13007 times:

Sounds like no injuries. While landing the tail hit the runway, and caught fire. Crew and pax fine.

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13005 times:

Hopefully everbody is fine and not injured.  Smile  crossfingers 

User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13006 times:

A wheels up landing and small fire - potential for great disaster apparently avoided. Certainly the cabin crew did a great job getting the pax off the bird.

We've seen a couple of really good examples of how it's supposed to work with the Air France A340 at Toronto and the China Airlines bird recently. Let's hope total, successful evacuations become more common.


User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2536 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13005 times:

I heard from a friend, there was an electronic fault onboard, and they landed it turned into a fire...


The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5666 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13005 times:

It looks like everyone is fine. Any idea on carrier and type involved?


That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13006 times:

MD-83 and the Egyptian operator is called AMC. Similar aircraft
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1243281/M/

[Edited 2007-10-11 12:33:26]

User currently offlineMd80forum From Finland, joined May 1999, 157 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13007 times:

Reportedly an Egyptian AMC MD-83 on its way from Egypt to Warsaw, Poland.

http://www.md80.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=3920.0


User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13007 times:

AMC is a an Egyptian charter company , it should be this A/C :

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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13007 times:

Couple of pics here:
http://www.airporthaber.com/hb/detay.php?id=20470

and many more here:
http://fotogaleri.hurriyet.com.tr/galeridetay.aspx?cid=6763&rid=2

[Edited 2007-10-11 13:16:41]

User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7344 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13006 times:

Looks like very little fire damage - apparently never got to the cabin.

Good work by the airport teams!!


User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13007 times:
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wow ... check photos 5 and 21 in the 2nd link above ... nice crease right behind the airline's logo.

Including the (presumbably substantial) damage underneath, it would seem the future is not bright for this old mad dog ...

Just goes to show those MD's are built tough.

- litz


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13007 times:

Litz, I agree must be a write-off.
Rumors claim 156 onboard and 7 crew, captain Norwegian, A/C and cabin light malfunctioned during flight.

[Edited 2007-10-11 13:44:52]

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12178 times:

I think this is the famous 6/24 at IST. Looks like it will be closed till they move the plane piece by piece. Can anyone at IST confirm? Is it at the same place where the Afghan plane ended up?

User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10358 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12178 times:

This is a late-built DC-9/MD83 from the mid-90s, not one of the mid-80s examples which grace the deserts and scrapheaps in growing numbers. But still, with a bent fuselage, damaged belly and wings hard to believe that it´ll fly again.
Thank god it was a lucky escape.


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10358 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12078 times:

Btw, wasn´t sistership SU-BOZ written off in a similar accident last year?

There are no records, no photos of it flying since this event:
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20060623-0

Based on my own experience AMC is an airline that should be avoided. I once (well twice, actually) flew with them on a 732. The airplane was rotten and cramped, bad pilots obviously just out of their Mig´s and virtually no service during 3 1/2 hour flight.


User currently offlineCmoltay From Turkey, joined Jun 2007, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12076 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 14):
I think this is the famous 6/24 at IST. Looks like it will be closed till they move the plane piece by piece. Can anyone at IST confirm? Is it at the same place where the Afghan plane ended up?

It is 36L.


User currently offlineMd80forum From Finland, joined May 1999, 157 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12076 times:

Quoting NA (Reply 16):
Btw, wasn´t sistership SU-BOZ written off in a similar accident last year?

That's correct. SU-BOZ had a rwy overrun in Poznan, Poland in 2005, and a second and final in Juba, Sudan in 2006. The rescue teams reportedly had to clean the area around the wreck from land-mines before salvaging what was left of that MD-83.

As a curiosity, AMC operated many of Swiss Hello's present MD-90's in the late 1990's, as factory-new planes.

See also http://www.md80.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=3042.0


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12075 times:

NA, they claim on their homepage that SU-BOZ is still in service....
http://www.amcairlines.net/OurFleet.aspx

[Edited 2007-10-11 14:38:30]

User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12075 times:

Quoting NA (Reply 16):
Based on my own experience AMC is an airline that should be avoided. I once (well twice, actually) flew with them on a 732. The airplane was rotten and cramped, bad pilots obviously just out of their Mig´s and virtually no service during 3 1/2 hour flight

Agreed. I flew ASW-ABS-CAI with them in 97 and it has been the scariest flights in my llife (broken engine, strong smoke odor inside the cabin upon take-off and landings,...)


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10358 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12075 times:

Quoting Alessandro (Reply 19):
NA, they claim on their homepage that SU-BOZ is still in service....
http://www.amcairlines.net/OurFleet.aspx

Thanks for finding this out. But if so, it´s hiding very successfully, flying a remote routing in comparison to the much-photographed sistership SU-BOY which crashlanded today. The fleet-lists on the net have it as "stored".
Seems like the AMC MD-83s favorite route was to fly to Warsaw. but while SU-BOY was shot there frequently over the last year, oddly no trace of SU-BOZ can be found.


User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3505 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12075 times:

AMC has quite a history of incidents. SU-BOY overrun runaway at POZ in 2005
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0829646/L/
Then it overrun again in Sudan in 2006 after which was written off.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12321 posts, RR: 35
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11743 times:

Probably an airline that the EU will be adding to its list of banned airlines?

User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2536 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11743 times:

I don't get it....for a fire inside the a/c resulting from a transponder, why did they go off the end, and plus they almost took out the loc!!!!


The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
25 Flyabunch : From the condition of wheels and tires that I can see in the pictures it looks like they deployed but were locked up. They are scrapped down until onl
26 Post contains links JustPlanes : A Write-Off no doubt http://fotogaleri.hurriyet.com.tr/Li...er/ucak_kazas%FD_kas%FDm2007/9.jpg
27 Flyboy_se : Glad t hear everyone got out ok. Looking at the photos its amazing to see that had they continued 5 more meters , they would have hit those lights. Al
28 TK787 : I am sure they want to check and make sure inside of the plane is "Clear", but hey why not have some fun at the end. How did they climb aboard is ano
29 Flyboy_se : LOL, i always wanted to try to go down one slide.Off course during a happy time and not during a crash
30 Post contains links and images Mortyman : Cool The Norwegian captain is hailed as a hero He apparently put the plane down on the grasfield beside the runway and he kept his calm not alarming t
31 Cmoltay : Turkish newspapers tell the story as: all of the navigational instruments blacked out, including the transponder, the pilot followed other planes to
32 OPNLguy : Looks like it came out--it had to have, before getting ripped off the aircraft itself...
33 Post contains images Pilotaydin : ooooo no way bro....there is a massive 12 foot wall next to 36L and NO grass, and a parallel runway to the other side...i highly doubt he landed anyw
34 Bozo :
35 Codeshare : So sad to see another MD gone from WAW. Anyways, the AMC MD-80s always needed long distance for the take-off run. It looked spectacular for the aviati
36 HECA : I'm surprised to hear the a Norwegian pilot works for AMC, thought that all Egyptian carriers (MS and charter companies) employed Egyptian flying cre
37 Alessandro : Cmoltay, perhaps lightning struck the plane, still very serious that the plane had a full blackout...
38 Mortyman : ooooo no way bro....there is a massive 12 foot wall next to 36L and NO grass, and a parallel runway to the other side...i highly doubt he landed anywh
39 SQA350 : well, at the end where the runway is finished, there is grass again... From what we know so far I think the pilot really did an amazing job paired wi
40 LN-MOW : The Norwegian Captain works for a US agency supplying pilots to airlines all over the world. He's known as an excellent pilot and I think he proved t
41 HECA : Thanks for the clarification!
42 Barnesy2006 : I flew on this aircraft (SU-BOY) back in January on an internal egyptian flight Sharm El Sheikh - Luxor. Had the hardest landing i've ever experienced
43 Post contains links TK787 : Recent pics: http://www.airporthaber.com/hb/detay.php?id=20628 Also in the article it says the insurer is thinking about trying to fix the plane!!!
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