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Bangkok Airways In Final A350XWB Talks  
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

... at least according to the Bangkok Post:

Quote:
The airline is in the final stage of talks with the European planemaker Airbus to acquire six A350 XWB, the new generation of mid-sized long-range jets, which would be delivered to the airline starting in 2014.


Bangkok Airways has also been negotiating with leasing companies to lease six A330-200s, the long-range jets that offer nearly the same carrying capacity as the A350 XWB (more than 250 passengers) until it receives the new A350s.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/Business/12Oct2007_biz43.php


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1920 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3697 times:

You just beat me!  Wink

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30900 posts, RR: 87
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3697 times:
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Airbus is certainly on a roll again. They might nip Boeing for total orders at this rate, especially if EK chooses the A350 exclusively in Round One.

User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3384 times:

Apparently the negotiations with Airbus are tough. About two months ago the same Bangkok Post reported that Bangkok AW would sign a firm contract before the end of the month August. That hasn't happened.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...568703&s=Bangkok+Airways#ID3568703


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3144 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 2):
Airbus is certainly on a roll again. They might nip Boeing for total orders at this rate, especially if EK chooses the A350 exclusively in Round One.

Which they will probably do, because most of the changes on the A350 were done for EK.


User currently offlineSwallow From Uganda, joined Jul 2007, 555 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3090 times:

That leaves Air Europa, Eurofly, GECAS, ILFC, TAP and Yemenia of the original 350 customers not to sign up for the XWB. . Between them they had ordered 51 frames, incidentally all 358s except for 6 359s ordered by ILFC. GECAS look unlikely to convert unless GE sign up as the second engine supplier.

JL met SUH at the Paris Air Show to discuss the 350. Haven't heard any news about ILFC signing up for the XWB, but there may be a surprise in Dubai.

Emirates is probably the next new customer.



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12432 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

It looks very likely that EK will go for the A350, as indicated in another thread on this forum; I guess what goes around comes around. Boeing will probably need to focus for the next few months on solving the production difficulties on the 787 before it even thinks about launching the -10 model and this will give the A350 a good "leg up" as far as sales campaigns are concerned.

Winning quality, solid orders from reputable airlines like AY, SQ, EI, EK and others can only help the program's credibility; the A350 has had a more difficult and traumatic birth than most large commercial aircraft, due to the early difficulties, but I really hope it is over these and that it can pick up a good number of orders over the coming years.


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2688 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 6):
It looks very likely that EK will go for the A350, as indicated in another thread on this forum; I guess what goes around comes around. Boeing will probably need to focus for the next few months on solving the production difficulties on the 787 before it even thinks about launching the -10 model and this will give the A350 a good "leg up" as far as sales campaigns are concerned.

Indeed. One has to consider that there will be a large gap in Boeing's portfolio - between the 789 and the 747-8I. The 77W will be left behind by the A350-1000, so Boeing doesn't have much in that size. And the current issues with the 787 will not speed up a possible 787-10.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 6):
the A350 has had a more difficult and traumatic birth than most large commercial aircraft, due to the early difficulties, but I really hope it is over these and that it can pick up a good number of orders over the coming years.

A380 has been far worse. The A350 has been changed and delayed, but at very early planning stages.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30900 posts, RR: 87
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2441 times:
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Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
Indeed. One has to consider that there will be a large gap in Boeing's portfolio - between the 789 and the 747-8I. The 77W will be left behind by the A350-1000, so Boeing doesn't have much in that size. And the current issues with the 787 will not speed up a possible 787-10.

Fortunately, Boeing has a decade to address that gap.

Considering the success Airbus looks to have with the A350 - which took five-years to address their own gap - one wonders the...wonder...Boeing could do with twice as much time to work on it...  optimist 


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6757 posts, RR: 77
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 8):
Fortunately, Boeing has a decade to address that gap.

Indeed - while Airbus doesn't have any time left to find a 787-8 competitor.


PH



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