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Caribbean/Caribe/Caraibes Aviation Part XXI  
User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7439 times:

Hi guys

Thanks for the support, part 20 started out rough died a couple of times but in the end turned out to be pretty good we got back to almost 200 Big grin .

APB for AA1818 Trintocan and all you people who have not been posting as much as you should that includes you beeweel15. To all you other posters nice work again.

TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION

Ok so the major point of discussion is going to be JM and the fact that the new government wants to put a halt to the LHR sale. JM
asked to put VS Agreement on hold
.

I have been in the dark but last I heard LI 8B merger should be completed before year end.

Tobago Express and thus the operating of the POS TAB route known locally as the "Air Bridge" was taken over by Caribbean Airlines on October 1st.

CAL is approaching the end of the 1st year so let the speculation begin on year 2. I say they better get BGI US routes  rotfl 


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Regards
BWIA 772

PS sorry for the shoddy start guys, but I am pressed for time... I am not a working man so getting up early is now important I know it sucks  rotfl 


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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7442 times:

POS is already for sale @ CM website.
Question is, Would CM finally fly to POS this December as they've announced?
CM has a severe pilot shortage.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7443 times:


  • AA's new JFK-UVF and SKB routes start soon.
  • B6 announced SXM and POP.
  • CO now flies the 757 on the EWR-NAS route.
  • WestJet has been wildly popular on it's routes To The Bahamas, and has added YHM-NAS (in addition to YYZ/YYC/YHZ-NAS)


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User currently offlineMbj-11 From Jamaica, joined Aug 2000, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7442 times:

Add to that a new JM board is on the horizon and I understand that some big names could be back or in the wings.Also look for Vernamfield (unknown to most here on A.net) in the centre of Jamaica with a runway longer than either current internationals could be in the works for business by mid 08. If the investors hold true.


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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7440 times:

Quoting Mbj-11 (Reply 3):
Also look for Vernamfield (unknown to most here on A.net) in the centre of Jamaica with a runway longer than either current internationals could be in the works for business by mid 08. If the investors hold true.

Wll, with a 4 lane motorway linking Vernamfield and Kingston, a new KIN airport there could make sense. Specially since the piece of land where KIN is located now could be so valuable as premium property, but that airport road should be widen ASAP. Those Kingston views from the airport and Port Royal are awesome.
By the way, does Vernamfield Aerodrome have an IATA or OACI airport code?



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7440 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 2):
CO now flies the 757 on the EWR-NAS route

Was it operated by a 737 before???

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 2):
AA's new JFK-UVF and SKB routes start soon

Will this two routes be seasonal only or a year around service???



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User currently offlineMbj-11 From Jamaica, joined Aug 2000, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7361 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 4):
By the way, does Vernamfield Aerodrome have an IATA or OACI airport code?

I know there are no IATA code for Vernamfield, the other I couldn't say. What I can tell you is that the fear was that if it is re-opened as a major airport, Norman Manley Intl in KGN could suffer. It is now being talked about as a maintenance area for JM and potentially other carriers due to its lengthy runway and landspace. Again........it was the largest airport in Jamaica, used by the US to service WWII bombers and also for launching points in clandestine missions. But there is nothing for it, although there is a code for a barely used strip in Mandeville which is in another parish.



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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3225 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7361 times:

Vernamfield? In which parish is that? I remember that Mandeville has an airfield that used to have scheduled services but has of late been bypassed in favour of the fields at Ken Jones (Port Antonio), Negril and Boscobel (Ocho Rios). Is it really worthwhile to open a 3rd international airport in Jamaica? KIN is in a somewhat space-limited location but it has worked well - apart from when there are the occasional riots in the East Kingston area, then the road to it gets blocked and the airport is stifled. In an interesting parallel the Waller AFB in Trinidad had been earmarked for redevelopment for many years and in many different forms but as yet nothing has come of it apart from a car racing circuit and a Regiment base (which sporadically uses one of the runways).

It would be a shame to lose KIN, the approach to it is spectacular!

So TB has been reabsorbed by BW - virtually taking us back to where we were in 2000 when BW of the time was forced to take over the domestic route after C2 folded. It felt unable to manage the route alongside its international ops - remember that at that time its Dash 8's flew an extensive regional network under the brand Bwee Express - and so TB was formed with Tobago business interests, at least 1 of whom was not very happy about surrendering control of the service to BW again. I wish BW well on the service - with 19 daily flights each way this is the busiest route in the Caribbean and yet a route of criitical importance to Trinidad and, more crucially, Tobago.

Is JM thus going to stay the course in LHR and thus keep the sunny Caribbean represented in the world's busiest international airport? Again, though, if this requires Government financial help to enable it to do so one is left wondering about the route's viability - airlines these days are more about profits and losses and less about prestige.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7364 times:

So I finally found the connection to get my pics and vids off of my camera so look out for new vids from 9YBGI on youtube soon.

The Caribbean Collection




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User currently offlineMbj-11 From Jamaica, joined Aug 2000, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7360 times:

Vernamfield is located in the Parish of Clarendon. That part of Jamaica where the Vere plain is located, is very very flat. (Possibly that's why so many good sprinters are produced by Vere Technical High).

As for potential persons to take over the board.........I have been privy to information that one Mrs. Shirley Williams is being looked at to take over the reigns. She previously was at the MPM , the body responsible for street cleaning etc and did a heck of a job, got rid of dead wood etc. She is said to be in the front running as many in JM's top brass had gotten their posts based on genetic links to the previous govt. (yuck) and were leeches feeding off the airline. Like many other boards of agencies in JA, under the previous admin, genetics and friendships played alot in appointments, hence the review of the sale of the LHR slot.
Many management staff at JM are worried as this govt has disbanded many boards and have uncovered irregularities which obtained.God's willing they are able to check even DNA of management and rid the airline of cronyism etc.
Off thread...........the new PM has also undertaken the issue of retired PM's pension payment. The previous admin on the retirement of the out going PJ Patterson (crook) increased the salary of retired PM's to that of current PM's and equal benefits for spouses, kids, widows etc. This one has pledged to reduce it to 2/3rd of the current pay with perks under review as well. With the no nonsense attitude of this new PM, who knows, JM may finally stand on its own three gears. LOL



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User currently offlineBw415 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2007, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7363 times:

Not to detract from the discussion on Jamaica ,which I must say I am enjoying, I recently posted three new vids on youtube... one is a LIAT landing in BGI.. and the other two are takeoff and landing in SXM. Feel free to check out my other videos if you like.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=bw415

bw415



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User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7238 times:

BWIA 777,

nice collection, but how come no Dash8s man??

an essential item for caribbean nationals in particular!!!!!



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7233 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 2):
B6 announced SXM and POP.

Does this mean we'll see a B6 A320 swooping over Maho Bay in early 2008? I think if anyone that can compete with AA on this route; JFK-SXM, B6 is equipped to do it given their popularity amongst the 20-30-something crowd.

I think that by doing JFK-POP, they can also attract the spring break college crowd to that part of the D.R. and the region as a whole. Many will find a good deal in POP, even though the Canadians discovered it long before.



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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3052 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 7207 times:
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St Vincent to construct new airport.


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 7201 times:

Quoting Inbound (Reply 11):
nice collection, but how come no Dash8s man??

He doesn't have a Caribbean collection, rather a collection of BWIA and it's succesor's fleet, the JM A340 and Air Caraibes ERJ-145 (wtf?!)

All of the Caribbean staples are missing, including the DASH-8, ATR-72 ,even the Piper Aztec/Caravan/1900 would do the trick.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 12):
Does this mean we'll see a B6 A320 swooping over Maho Bay in early 2008?

...If it can make it non-stop.....

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 12):
Many will find a good deal in POP

Yeah, Canadians, Europeans and Venezuelans. Americans can care less about the North Coast.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9712 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 7198 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 14):
...If it can make it non-stop.....

Why shouldn't an A320 make JFK-SXM nonstop?

A388

[Edited 2007-10-12 22:26:48]

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7188 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 14):
...If it can make it non-stop....

Is that a longer flight than lets say, JFK/GND? hehe JFK/SXM is quite within the normal operation range of an A320 or any of the A32X aircraft for that matter. (not 100% sure of the 318)



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User currently offlineBeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1739 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7179 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 8):
The Caribbean Collection

Are those hand made models. Nice collection.

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 14):
...If it can make it non-stop.....

That is a hop skip and a jump for the A320 besides those pax will only be carrying a tiny bag containing their bare necessities cause if not at the end of the runway getting their rush they will be on a beach some where.


User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3052 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7173 times:
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With new hotels under construction within the region. I would love to see Jetblue expand in the Caribbean. Namely: MBJ, STT, BGI, GND, SLU and BZE. Lets see.


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User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2634 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7168 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 8):
So I finally found the connection to get my pics and vids off of my camera so look out for new vids from 9YBGI on youtube soon.

Nice man still building mines lol.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9712 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7160 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 16):
Is that a longer flight than lets say, JFK/GND? hehe JFK/SXM is quite within the normal operation range of an A320 or any of the A32X aircraft for that matter. (not 100% sure of the 318)

My point exactly. I thaught MD90fan would know this or maybe he means something else?

A388


User currently offlineSKYYBLUE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7153 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 14):
...If it can make it non-stop.....

I'm getting so sick of hearing this.

JFK-PSE --1,617mi--A320-- 6,904ft. runway at Mercedita Airport.

JFK-SXM-- 1,681mi--A320-- 7,152ft. runway at Princess Juliana Airport.

PSE is mostly VFR with people bringing everything AND the kitchen sink, flights are consistently FULL. No fuel stops, EVER.

SXM will be mostly tourists... that is, if we even get any now! Since B6 announced SXM, everyone is screaming it won't work  sarcastic 

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 14):
Yeah, Canadians, Europeans and Venezuelans. Americans can care less about the North Coast.

I'm sure the route planning department knew what they were doing when they selected POP. We do very well to the D.R. and I'm sure POP will not be an exception. Continental flies the route and I'm sure does just fine. 150 more seats and another option for travelers isn't a bad thing.


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7084 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 15):
Why shouldn't an A320 make JFK-SXM nonstop?

I just pullin ya leg  Silly

Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 21):
I'm sure the route planning department knew what they were doing when they selected POP. We do very well to the D.R. and I'm sure POP will not be an exception. Continental flies the route and I'm sure does just fine.

Umm no.

If AA couldn't make JFK-POP work with connections from Europe, strong ties and brand recognition in the Dominican community here and there (check out the office in Washington Heights), what makes you think B6 can? Heck, even Delta is doing horrendous on ATL-POP!

POP did horrible ex.JFK and will today. CO makes it work because they have a big hub there and a strong name.

Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 21):
150 more seats and another option for travelers isn't a bad thing.

No denying that, but 150 more seats when there is hardly any travellers is a bad idea.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9712 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7058 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 22):
POP did horrible ex.JFK and will today. CO makes it work because they have a big hub there and a strong name.

Let's not forget JetBlue is a low cost airline with a totally different strategy that is not based on having an international hub to feed their flight. JetBlue, like all other low cost airlines, focus on a different market, the low cost market. Low cost airlines are gaining ground here in the Caribbean and I have a feeling they will become bigger here in our region.

I'm not saying JetBlue will be succesful but the fact that other airlines have not performed well on a route doesn't mean another airline, in this case JetBlue, will also perform bad. For all we know JetBlue might even do a good job. It is too early to tell now.

A388


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7041 times:

*sigh*

You're not getting the point, there is virtually no USA-POP demand, and what little is served from hubs at AA's flights from MIA and SJUand EWR (ATL is struggling).

Quoting A388 (Reply 23):

Let's not forget JetBlue is a low cost airline with a totally different strategy that is not based on having an international hub to feed their flight

They'll need that, seeing how POP's tourists come from primarily Europe and Canada.

[Edited 2007-10-13 14:37:14]

[Edited 2007-10-13 14:48:57]


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25 SLCUT2777 : Canada and the U.K. especially hit POP in large numbers since they come for two and three weeks at a time respectively. They earn vacation time faste
26 BWIA 772 : Thanx guys for the compliments. So far I have not been able to find LI 8B in the 1:400 diecast models. MD90 Rome was not built in 1 day and the same a
27 A388 : That is what I mean. Low cost airlines tend to go after the lower end of the markets, the 20-30 age travellers (people who can't afford very expensiv
28 Post contains images WestIndian425 : Good thing I posted well enough to avoid the APB. I don't thing AA's service is seasonal. I could be wrong though. It's about time!! They've been get
29 Albird87 : Cool Collection. I have a small amount of 1:400 models but more focused on BA and also AA models but as you are looking at expanding your fleet to Ca
30 AA1818 : Here I am- would hate to get APB'd (whatever that is) again in number CTAC 22!!! How are you guys doing? It's been a hectic few weeks- spent 2.5 weeks
31 Post contains images A388 : How are you doing, wellcome come of course. Have you seen my aircraft photos I sent by email? How was Peru and Puerto Rico? Did you go there for scho
32 Beeweel15 : I think the PM is a sensible man if he is saying to VS put your pax on the JM plane under the code share agreement. It is what I wanted for BW from t
33 Mbj-11 : Isn't a sensible man one who reviews matters before he makes a decision? You need what is always best for you so if a review of any arrangement is not
34 A388 : So the deal between JM and VS is off for new negiotiations or is it just put on hold? What is the reaction of VS in all of this? A388
35 Mbj-11 : VS is insisting that all systems are go for the service. However the word out is that it wasn't finalized, the intention was to have it finalized. But
36 AA1818 : Of course it is sensible to review, but at the end of the day it was already deemed impractical. C'mon- you need 2 A340s to run the route effectively
37 Mbj-11 : True, in essence the two and for those who did not know ...at one point 3 A340's didn't make sense. It was a case of "if the seat are there, they wil
38 Par13del : Well as it relates to the LHR route there was bad decisions all around. JM started using Airbus a/c, thats fine, for the LHR flights they should have
39 SJOtoLIR : These are not nautical miles. Nonetheless, the point is valid because the 320 is capable to do these nonstop routes. According to the Great Circle Ma
40 Post contains links BWIA 772 : I have not been able to find any sites that have them available. I use ebay and a couple of resellers. Check the following link.
41 A388 : Having the A330 doing Caribbean runs isn't efficient. As far as I know JM was using their A343s to JFK (and YYZ) when they were not flying to LHR, in
42 Caribbean484 : It has to do with the fact that these airlines can deploy their a/cs on more long haul routes than BW/JM. 1) The A340 was a very bad decision more so
43 Caribbean484 : Welcome back man its been a long time.
44 HummingBird : The A330 was evaluated but was not available. The first "new" A340 came from Air Mauritius. The other two came from AC who was at the time going thro
45 Caribbean484 : I currently have the BWIA L1011, MD80s and 737, still looking to get the A340 and Caribbean Airlines 738, also the JM A340 and A321.
46 AA1818 : I'm thinking about getting a little Caribbean collection of a/c going soon- but i'd also like to get an airport model- anyone knows if there are any m
47 2travel2know : There are 3 possible explanations why one couldn't book POS on CM website: (1) One is trying to book before the flight starts (2) The flight is alrea
48 Mbj-11 : God knows it can't be worst than the other one. They tried to sell the very people of Jamaica for cronyism.
49 Post contains images WestIndian425 : Just the mere fact that there is another airline other than Constipation on the route will give CM a fighting chance. How is the Boeing Maintenance p
50 Post contains images JM017 : Don't be shy. tell us how you really feel . Seriously, I agree with you. The deal with VS lacked transparency and given the corruption rampart in the
51 Post contains images BWIA 772 : [quote=AA1818,reply=46]/quote] For a POS custom model you would have to get it custom built or try building it yourself (which is not for me ). For me
52 Post contains images Mbj-11 : My friend if I were to unleash what I thought of them, my soul would be lost forever. Isn't it fascinating that the two worst PM's in the history of
53 Trintocan : That is a lovely Caribbean collection of models BW772. I myself have many of the same 1:400 models (except the Caribbean 738, BW 721 with the JM title
54 TransIsland : Only once a week, on Wednesdays (757-200). Still is on most days, 737-800 to be precise.
55 Jm017 : That alone would make her the best person for the job.[Edited 2007-10-16 17:02:53]
56 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Ok so who is Mrs Williams?? News Update 8B last flight will be on November 15th with final shut down slated for the end of November. The 5 remaining a
57 Post contains images A388 : So when will the 8B aircraft be painted in the LI livery? I am still waiting on the first LI colored Dash-8 landing here in CUR! A388
58 AA1818 : Any idea how that flight is proving given competition from CWIA and Surinam Airways on that route?? Do you think there is room for Caribbean AIrlines
59 A388 : So far I think they are doing pretty well. Their check-in desks are mostly full when the flight opens for check-in. Whether there is room for Caribbe
60 AA1818 : Is Insel Air to POS a weekly flight or charters only?? Also does Li/ 8B run the route daily?? Cheers for the info! AA1818
61 Mbj-11 : Ok , so I was right on the money, thanks Jm-airbus320 (again) Taken from a local news website: "It is now official. Former Opposition Spokeswoman on C
62 Trintocan : If I remember correctly, CUR and TAB are the only destinations in the LI network operated solely by 8B so it is likely that they will be the last to s
63 Albird87 : Interesting Article in our paper today saying that KX will have online check-in by november (they hope to have this before the holiday). This will all
64 BWIA 772 : CUR POS via LI/8B is 3 times per week but I may be wrong. Also once the fleet is handed CUR may see a aircraft in the full LI livery doing the route.
65 Post contains images Mbj-11 : Man why you trying to make this a perfect strike? But the possibility exists, because the new members of the board will undoubtedly be hard nosed mem
66 Caribbean484 : Nice one lol. They need to get rid of the man since he has no idea of how to run the airline.
67 AA1818 : Apologies for my ignorance, but this is the first i'm hearing of a possible tie up with EK. Any details as to what sort of relationship might be on t
68 A388 : LI/8B runs the POS-CUR route 4 times a week as far as I know. Insel Air sometimes operates the POS flight on behalf of Surinam Airways as they have a
69 BWIA 772 : From what I read about Conway his reputation is not to shabby. The main question is that now we have a board that has the freedom from political inte
70 SJOtoLIR : BA and VS are getting services to LGW. MQ American Eagle on SJU-GND.
71 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Hi guys check this out JM to do MIA GND
72 Ahlfors : With a connection in MBJ according to the article... not even the same flight number.
73 BWIA 772 : True.. but according to captaink our GND expert JM has quite a following there so we just have to wait and see how GND MBJ MIA works out. Hopefully i
74 Captaink : Connection in MBJ, no. The airplane stops in MBJ, and the same airplane continues on to MIA with a different flight number. It is not as great as GND
75 HummingBird : JM's new Board of Directors. Air J to seek partner NEWLY appointed board chairman of Air Jamaica and former opposition spokesperson on commerce, Shirl
76 Mbj-11 : Well the board is a mixed of every imaginable sector of society, yes imaginable (UWI people might have an idea what I mean) Not that UWI was my alma
77 2travel2know : Other than JJ and SQ, why not add more names to JM wish-to-be linked with list; TA, LA, CM, Star Alliance UA (!).. And if an airline doesn't want its
78 JM017 : Yes, but will they require passengers to disembark? I ask because something similar happened to me once and I was required to get off the aircraft (J
79 Post contains images TransIsland : Send it north... north-east.
80 Post contains links Bw415 : I have been trying to get some more information on the new St. Vincent Airport at Argyle... I have been searching online and I can't really find that
81 Post contains images A388 : I want to see pictures, pictures, pictures!!!!!!! I assume if Caribbean Airlines decides to fly to CUR they will use these birds A388
82 HummingBird : Yes, they are required to disembark the aircraft so as to facilitate crew change and catering.
83 JM017 : Well, it's still great that travelers to GND from MIA have another option.
84 HummingBird : I hope JM will continue to explore the opportunities to expand in The EC region. Flights to GND and BGI are big earners for the company. The reason th
85 Captaink : Most likely they will have to disembark for crew change/cleaning on at least one of the legs, maybe the MIA/MBJ/GND leg. But I am almost certain that
86 Post contains links HummingBird : Guys things are heating up! http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20071019/lead/lead1.html
87 JM017 : Hey, he had to go, well liked or not. What has he to show for his two years or so at the helm? Besides the new government has that right, particularl
88 Mbj-11 : The new board chair woman says Conway had his option of resignation which was in his contract if there was a change of govt.I think he hated the idea
89 Caribbean484 : All I can say is its a good thing he left and hopefully they can find someone to vill the void left by Conway.
90 MD90fan : AC to split YYZ-POS-CCS: Caracas will have 4 weekly nonstop A319 flights. AC075 YYZ1735 - 2245CCS 319 x246 AC076 CCS2345 - 0525+1YYZ 319 x246 Port of
91 A388 : How are these routes performing for AC? Do they have good loads? A388
92 Post contains images Speedbird2263 : Let me first say that this Is my very first Post on A-net....finally Ive been quite an avid A-netter roaming the forums for greater part of the last 7
93 JMBWEEBOY : Conway gone ? Oh Happy Day! JMBWEEBOY
94 Beeweel15 : Lets see if JM can find a WEST INDIAN to run the airline tired of the foreigners being brought in all the time.
95 A388 : Can't you give it a rest? A388
96 Post contains images JM017 : I am sensing euphoria amongst us all now that Conway has left/been forced out.
97 2travel2know : Would Jamaica be willing to get rid of KIN and make Vernamfield KIN airport and JM hub? The only possible scenario I see for that happening is that V
98 Trintocan : Yes, AC is splitting its CCS and POS services. Interestingly CCS gets 1 flight more per week than POS. One wonders why AC cannot maintain a daily POS
99 Caribbean484 : Competing against CAL and the charters on YYZ is and has always been hard for AC to do so daily service will not work, at leats for now. Over the las
100 Post contains images BWIA 772 : Ok so Conway is gone what is going to happen next. What are they going to do about LHR?? What about the 757 and A319s?? How long are they going to tak
101 Post contains links HummingBird : Welcome aboard Speedbird. http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/2212/26/. These topics were discussed at the meeting held today. Mr Conway was not
102 Post contains links and images Speedbird2263 : I would certainly love more than anything else to have a fresh new airport built from scratch to World Class standards, however with the money that's
103 Mbj-11 : Vernamfield would only serve as a maintenance base for JM and other foreign carriers that choose to use it. No doubt the odd flight would start going
104 Beeweel15 : Well I don't do aviation as a hobby. I live it every day and I see things you all don't see. Why don't you all say to the Jamaican folks here that th
105 A388 : It's not that we don't see it, it's you who keeps living in a world of Caribbean people not being able of running an airline. I also work in the avia
106 AA1818 : Don't even go there- that is a whole different issue and you don't live in Trinidad to begin to know the behind the scenes. So stay away from things
107 Par13del : Think I'll pitch in on this West Indian ability to run an airline, will try not to rant but to pose some questions. For starters, I was born in the Ba
108 Post contains images Mbj-11 : Excellent point. Not because its JM, but very very important point. Woah, another good point!! Brother man you on a roll Excellent question, you sir
109 BWIA 772 : Yes that is my main point you came on this forum and one of the first things you asked when members disagreed with you is that to go look at our prof
110 A388 : Very well said BWIA 772. I have nothing to add to your story as it summarizes everything very well! I also have worked at Schiphol Airport for 5 year
111 Beeweel15 : BW772 , A388 , Read the posts by Par31del and Mbj-11 and maybe you will learn something. And yes I do know that JFK is not the Caribbean however I did
112 A388 : Answer my question I asked twice about all the other major airlines who have foreigners as CEO's before talking about "What I've seen!!!" You seem to
113 BWIA 772 : You know I realize that you and me come from different world. I guess at has to do with what I have experienced. Anyways it is clear that as far as y
114 Post contains links Bw415 : Someone has managed to upload a pic of 9Y-WIT.. its not a full shot.. just the tail... I must say that I quite like the entire hummingbird on the tail
115 Post contains links Bw415 : For all the BWIA fans out there.. just thought that I would share this 1989 commercial that I came across on youtube.. tear jerker :P... really http:/
116 Post contains images A388 : Nice Bw415!!! I hope Caribbean Airlines will fly to CUR so I can get a nice photo of this very nice and colorful hummingbird Dash-8. I also wouldn't
117 AA1818 : Cheers 415! If the 'Caribbean Airlines' Titles are that small, what is painted on the front of the fuselage??? It's either going to look V.V.V.V.V.V.
118 Post contains images Mbj-11 : For those interested in the future of the Norman Manley Intl. airport in KGN in relation to Vernamfield's resurgence here is the info you need straigh
119 Caribbean484 : Man those were the days. The days of the greatest aircraft to fly the caribbean skies, the L1011-500 aka Sunjets.
120 Post contains images A388 : Hi Mbj-11 I can't resist saying this anymore, Kingston has IATA-code KIN and not KGN. Best regards, A388
121 Post contains images Mbj-11 : Reason I use it is............. that was and sometimes is the tag on your bag to go KIN/KGN and also , a so "yaaad man" talk (so to speak). Cool, I'l
122 Captaink : Wah L1011 wah, yuh doh see dem MD dem.. Well i will go as far to say that BWIA had a very hot combination between the MDs and the L1011...
123 HummingBird : Re BWIA's MDs, were they weight restricted on flights to JFK and YYZ?
124 Post contains images Caribbean484 : Yes they were. To get into the eastern US they had to fly primarily to the northern Caribbean(more so ANU), since NYC is approximately 2200nm and the
125 HummingBird : Thanks. For JM they were primarily used to ORD. Whenever there was a max weight takeoff, the airport was notified and the Fire Station placed on stan
126 AA1818 : Perhaps someone can correct me but weren't the L10-11s primarily used on YYZ and JFK? I remember going to pick up my Aunt from the Airport, sitting i
127 A388 : The L1011's were even regulatly used to CUR! Every sunday we received BWIA L1011 flights here in CUR. A388
128 AA1818 : Well if CALx flies to CUR, those Dash8's will be a significant reduction of 'metal' as compared with the L10-11s!!! AA1818
129 Post contains images A388 : Haha, you are right but BWIA had a bad fleet management at the time they used the L1011 to CUR in my opinion. That aircraft was way to big for the ro
130 Post contains images TransIsland : I'm not sure this is a wise debate to enter, though I could produce some flamebait here (and NO, I am neither from Abaco nor from Spanish Wells.... )
131 Captaink : I didn't quite understand that statement. BW operated the MDs on POS/JFK, POS/YYZ (on rare ocasions), definitely on BGI/JFK, before on GND/JFK, UVF/J
132 Post contains images BWIA 772 : What a sucky livery
133 A388 : Don't you like the Caribbean Airlines livery? The livery on that Dash-8 is the exact same livery as on the B738. I find the livery very nice. A388
134 Post contains images BWIA 772 : Do not get me wrong I like the CAL livery however the livery on the Dash 8 is a variation of the CAL livery which I do not like. I like the CAL liver
135 Post contains images A388 : Oww okay. You almost gave me a nervous breakdown!!! A388
136 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Ok guys tell me what you think about this development see the following link. A388 Yeah I was wondering why you asked the question but I quickly reali
137 Post contains images A388 : Interesting link BWIA 772 but as the trend is slowly moving towards privatizing airlines in our region I don't know how much effect the governments w
138 Par13del : TransIsland my reply to your post 130 is along the same lines. If we have a "airline expert" foreign or domestic in charge of the airline, could they
139 Post contains links and images BWIA 772 : CTAC Announcement Ok guys after quite a slump it seems we are back on track. Right now the thread is number 6 in the most discussed topics!!! Good wor
140 Post contains links HummingBird : More LI amd JM news. http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20071022/business/business2.html. http://jamaicaobserver.com/news/html...O_RUSH_TO_FIND_NEW_AI
141 Beeweel15 : Yes they were. Mainly to JFK, YYZ and LHR and occasionally to MIA. I remember those days also going back to the days of the B707. It was fun I even r
142 A388 : Hi Beewee15, do you work for a baggage handling agent or do you load baggage yourself? The reason why I ask is: Is this normal practice to put baggag
143 AA1818 : ...that's Clarke (with an 'E')!!!! hehe AA1818
144 Post contains images MD90fan : What ever happened to UP looking into replacing their 1980-vintage 737s? Remember a few months back, they were going to look into it? What aircraft d
145 Beeweel15 : Yes I did work for the handling company that handled BW and yes I did load bags. This was back around the very early 90's when BW was at the BA Termi
146 Post contains images Speedbird2263 : It's a wonder Ive never seen the ARFF out for the A340 at KIN . Twice Ive seen the Big girl slowly making her way out of 1000 for Flight Level overhe
147 Trintocan : About BW and the MD80s - yes, they were regularly used to the NE US and Canada, the first MD83 in BW's livery actually operated to BWI and BOS from PO
148 A388 : Okay thanks. Can you elaborate on the FAA/ICAO regulations regarding aircraft loading per aircraft type? How strict is the FAA when it comes to prope
149 Post contains links and images Speedbird2263 : 'No rush to find new Air J CEO' Quote from the article : I really wonder if the mis-spelling of Millicent Hughes' name is representative of things to
150 Inbound : Hey BWIA 772, if things go as planned, you might be seeing Caribbean Airlines Dash8 at Adams on November 5th.
151 Caribbean484 : Inbound whats up man, nice to hear of CALx doing those routes, any more info on the airline?
152 Captaink : Haha I remember those days. My memories of JFK in those days were saying many many TWA birds, and parking next to BA 747s.
153 BWIA 772 : Nice. So will BGI be the first destination served by CALX?? Regards BWIA 772
154 Beeweel15 : Well on the off load we offloaded the lower bellies first then went upstairs after the pax and crew left to take those bags off . It was quite unusua
155 Beeweel15 : Well A388 I spoke to one of the MX last night, while waiting for the push back of 9Y-KIN i think it was not sure though, who was there at the time an
156 A388 : Oww okay, so the FAA does check the aircraft loading every now and than or do they check ramdomly or do they check some airline more than others? The
157 Post contains links and images BWIA 772 : NEWS UPDATE LIAT has finalized the buy out of Caribbean Star's assets please see the following link, Ok guys with this we can reach the 200 post mark
158 Post contains links HummingBird : Re: Sale of JM LHR slots to Virgin Atlantic: http://jamaicaobserver.com/news/html..._DOS_GETS_JA_S_HEATHROW_SLOTS_.asp
159 Trintocan : Ouch! We see that in one fell swoop VS has hit both JM and BW, both Jamaica and Trinidad with its slot purchase from JM! VS has thus moved BGI to LHR,
160 BWIA 772 : OMG you have to be kidding me VS moving BGI to LGW wow!!!! I wonder what BA is going to do?? Since the demise of the original BW BGI was only going t
161 JM017 : As much as I really really hate VS at this point, the blame for this lies squarely with the old PNP administration. Can this deal really be reversed?
162 A388 : Unity among Caribbean carriers is a great idea and I also hope it will happen eventually but regarding European flights I don't know if it is useful
163 Trintocan : Good points there A388. Yes every island will want its own flights to Europe but what I was thinking was in terms of a multi-centric operation with th
164 BWIA 772 : Price and the amount of frequent flyer miles that can be earned!! In addition in the latter years of BW I am sure that those connections were not as
165 Caribbean484 : This is true, however the same is being said about BAs service to BGI-LGW, the flights are doing well from what I've heard with all indications, and
166 AA1818 : I've taken advantage of AA's flights over hte past 3 years and i make no less than 3 round trip European trips each year and so far all have been on
167 BWIA 772 : Well I really did not expect the route to be doing badly. BA has a pretty good product and doing POS in conjunction with BGI boost the chances of the
168 Post contains links HummingBird : An editoral response to JM/VS slot sale. http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20071026/letters/letters1.html. There is high uncertainty regarding the ac
169 AA1818 : JM is already being sold off?? That's a bit shady- surely there should have been open bidding for the company! I'm suprised anyone wants a piece of J
170 JM017 : Just curious about the "other significant benefits" they secured in this transaction. VS has already announced a reduction in the number of flights t
171 AA1818 : But there is still benefit in going from two to four and then from four to three. All in all it appears to be a Net Gain of 1 flight per week- hey a
172 AA1818 : BWIA772- I remember you designing a new logo for Caribbean Airlines where the titles were in blue and green. I've got a friend who is quite keen to se
173 Jm017 : I think the total of four refers to flights to MBJ and KIN. Presently there are two weekly flights to MBJ and they plan to begin with two flights to
174 HummingBird : IMO. If VS uses its high density 747-400, this would mean 439 available seats per day which would represent 876 per week to KIN. This is enough capaci
175 Post contains images BWIA 772 : Question here. Was JM loads to LHR that great?? If this is the case the only thing that has happened is that your choices as it relates to the days th
176 Trintocan : Some fun here, but one can easily compare POS and KIN, both are VFR and business markets rather than tourist ones. MBJ, TAB and ANU are principally to
177 A388 : As I've said before, the 787 is a premium aircraft. VS will not send the 787 to the Caribbean soon as it is needed on VS's premium routes elsewhere.
178 HummingBird : Not according to this article. Will keep our fingers crossed to see VS 787 in The Caribbean by 2014. Virgin's 787s Will Fly New Routes and Replace A3
179 BWIA 772 : We have to wait and see what VS does about the 20 strong fleet of 747s (it would be nice if they got the 748). Besides BGI has any other destination
180 A388 : VS has already said several times that their 747s will be replaced by the A346, remember they have a lot of A346s that still need to be delivered. Do
181 Post contains links Caribbean484 : Yeah, everyone and their mother is striking in POS. Anyways 9YBGI is returning home after a major C check in its new color http://flightaware.com/liv
182 Caribbean484 : Yes they did say that, however the fact remains that they are also going to order more VLA in the A380 or 748 sometime soon, so their A380 will not b
183 MD90fan : Not only that, why waste a 787 on a nominally low yielding route that is what? 8 hours from your hub and has no competition? They're fine using appro
184 Post contains images A388 : That is what I'm trying to say as well. No airline will put a premium aircraft on a low yielding flight which is characterized by VFR traffic and not
185 Post contains images Akizidy214 : Reasons for JM struggles My top 3 reasons for JM struggles to maintain a consistence profit. 1. Visa requirements to the US and the UK. The JM governm
186 JM017 : If you add the two flights to MBJ, that seems like a net increase in the number of seats over JM.
187 Captaink : ANU if I am not mistaken. Then maybe the should have used the 343 for these destinations. However I don't think that these routes do so badly. In fac
188 Post contains links MD90fan : SAS just said they'll dump their fleet of 27 DASH-8Q400s, those birds will be prime for JM, UP, BW, the LIAT/8B offspring etc. SAS Dumps All Dash 8Q4
189 Bw415 : Why would this even be considered prime? It's quite obvious that these planes are defective.. what sensible management would adopt these planes for s
190 Akizidy214 : If any of the above airlines were to pick these birds up it would be a sad mistake. Im talking new ATR 72-600's or SAAB 2000's
191 Post contains images A388 : Of course new aircraft are better, but the main problem in our region is money. Not all Caribbean airlines have enough finances to go for new aircraf
192 AA1818 : I e-mailled CM for some info about the flight to POS... here was the reply...Friday 26th Oct 2007 Good morning Mr. C***** Thanks for writing us. At th
193 TransIsland : You've GOT to be joking! 1. UP had two incidents over the past few months involving landing gears on their Dash-8-300s. SAS had three with their Q400
194 AA1818 : Totally agree. Q400s NEVER!! (although never say never with some of these decisions that are made in the Caribbean)....tomorrow's headlines might rea
195 A388 : I don't think we should bring down the Dash-8Q400 just because one airline (SAS) is having a bad experience with them. Of all the airlines that opera
196 Caribbean484 : I agree with you firmly on that one, its the reason CAL got rid of 9YJIL, it was a problem aircraft. They did a nice job on the route from what if he
197 Bw415 : SAS is not the only operator to have gear problems on the q400... All Nippon Airways had an incident earlier this year where the front landing gear f
198 AA1818 : 100% agree with you on that issue. The Q400 is only suitable in capacity but not in performance. As bw415 put it- it's best for POS-SJU, POS-CUR, POS
199 Post contains links Bloodyrascal : http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=47&a=14597 I thought this was rather interesting. we need some more aircraft badly. I think the dash8s would be a good
200 A388 : This is exactly what I mean. Give me the facts on your statements. Statements like "may not have more than 10000 hours of usage of aircraft"and "its
201 AA1818 : With all due respect I think there would be about 10 posts a day on this entire website if we had to make 100% factual statements. Half of the thread
202 AA1818 : Just thought i'd have a quick look through some of your statements which you've made and provided the much needed data and sources to back up and whi
203 Post contains images Speedbird2263 : Well said my good man!
204 Post contains links WestIndian425 : Well I agree with everyone who voiced dissent at the idea. Getting Q-400s is not a good idea, considering how often the props are used in the region.
205 Caribbean484 : Ok guys thanks again for the nice talks but please hold all comments until xx2 is online, so APB to BWIA772 or MD90fan. thanks you guys
206 A388 : Just to let both you know, have I ever said that something WILL or WILL NOT happen?? No, I haven't. I always said it is my opinion and we all know no
207 Post contains links Bw415 : hmm... too much has transpired on the q400 topic and I'm not in the mood to argue.. A388 you asked for an example of other Q400 problems and I gave y
208 AA1818 : Hey I simply went through your last 5 posts in this thread- I certainly didn't have to go hunting for those opinions or should I say facts?!!!! That
209 A388 : If you actually went through my last 5 posts you would have read more than the qoutes you mentioned. Agreed and this I also mentioned in one of my pr
210 Post contains images Akizidy214 : Didnt meant to get the Prop argumnet rumbling in here..... All right bredren.....put the spliff down.....Doesnt get any better the the JM scheme.
211 AA1818 : While it was thrown in there for fun, it is the honest truth. Something about yellow, pink, blue (have i forgotten any colours?) just don't really ap
212 Bw415 : Maybe its a trini thing.. but I have never really taken to the JM livery either...I mean its way too much going on..with a really odd colour palette..
213 Post contains images A388 : I have seen one JM A320 coming here to CUR with the usual JM livery but without the faded color transition on the tail logo and winglets. I was wonde
214 Post contains images Akizidy214 : And bad opinions they are.......... lol lol
215 AA1818 : I say we close this and continue slagging off JM's colour scheme in part 22!! See you guys there in a few seconds.. MODS- please lock this thread!! A
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