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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Anyone know how they're doing? I know their expansion to ELP, LBB and MAF is scheduled for "Fall 2007," but does anyone know when this will be?


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Good question, I was curious about this myself...

Also, can someone explain how you could run scheduled pax. ops with a Caravan? IIRC, Part 121 covers all scheduled passenger operations, however I believe it specifically forbids scheduled ops with single-engined aircraft. Is there a loophole for aircraft with less than 10 passenger seats or something similar?



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 1):
Is there a loophole for aircraft with less than 10 passenger seats or something similar?

I think the loophole is that as long as there are 9 or less pax per aircraft, it's acceptable.



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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Right now, NMA operates its schedule with just one aircraft. NMA's Wikipedia article says that two additional aircraft were to be delivered in June and August - I guess additional service will depend on these deliveries.


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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 1):
Part 121 covers all scheduled passenger operations

Judging by the listings for Captain & First Officer, they are operating under Part 135.


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 4):
Judging by the listings for Captain & First Officer, they are operating under Part 135.

So, do you fly out of the passenger terminal like you would at a typical air carrier airport, and are subject to the same TSA screening as everyone else? Also, could New Mexico Airlines sell you, say, a ticket with a connection at ABQ, and interline your luggage?



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User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7345 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

A few airlines have been flying passengers in Caravan's commercially for several years. But I don't know exactly under which part of the FAR they operate.

Pacific Wings in Hawaii is the most well known.

Back in mid-September NMI was flying a C208 on some of the New Mexico Airlines route and schedule.

But since then I've not seen any C208 into / out of ABQ which could be a passenger aircraft in three weeks on the flight tracking databases.

The only Caravan's in the Carlsbad area right now appear to be Martinaire and Baron Aviation cargo birds.

But - I called the Hobbs New Mexico and Carlsbad New Mexico airports and both say the planes are arriving and departing every day pretty much on schedule.


User currently offlineATCGOD From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 661 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 2):
I think the loophole is that as long as there are 9 or less pax per aircraft, it's acceptable.

Does anyone remember Westwind Airlines and their PC-12's that flew between ABQ, LRU, and ALM? I think they had other destinations too but they ceased NM ops about 2 years ago. They flew 9 pax PC-12's.


User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2367 times:
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I know Rio Grande Air at ABQ was depating from the D or E gates. The ones opposite Mesa's. There was no security for them.
Westward also flew in Nebraska, but I think mostly out of FBOs in Omaha, Lincoln, and North Platte. Don't know about Scottsbluff. That was their HQ.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Quoting ATCGOD (Reply 7):

Does anyone remember Westwind Airlines and their PC-12's that flew between ABQ, LRU, and ALM? I think they had other destinations too but they ceased NM ops about 2 years ago. They flew 9 pax PC-12's.

Yep, they also flew to LRU...

D'oh! you already said that...sorry  Sad

[Edited 2007-10-12 11:57:49]


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User currently offlineSpencerii From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 6):
Pacific Wings in Hawaii is the most well known.

New Mexico Airlines is owned by Pacific Wings out of Hawaii (it was kind of an "In your face" to Jonathan Ornstein when he introduced GO! to the islands. Pacific Wings came over to the mainland and started bidding on EAS services operated by Air Midwest which is more or less under Ornsteins control.)


User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 5):

That I honestly don't know.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 5):
So, do you fly out of the passenger terminal like you would at a typical air carrier airport, and are subject to the same TSA screening as everyone else? Also, could New Mexico Airlines sell you, say, a ticket with a connection at ABQ, and interline your luggage?

I would say that screening is likely the same, but I doubt that NMA interlines with anyone.



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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

In 1973 I flew between ABQ and Los Alamos on a twin engine prop, about 6 seats. Is there still service between these two cities?

User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

Quoting DesertAir (Reply 13):
between ABQ and Los Alamos

The now defunct Rio Grande Air tried it with Cessna Caravans around mid 2000 or so. The route wasn't very profitable from what I can remember. Before that (don't recall the dates), Mesa ran Beech 1900s in and out of there. I seriously doubt they made any money on the route either.

Currently, no one flies ABQ-LAM commercially, though New Mexico Airlines has that route down as "proposed."

[Edited 2007-10-13 23:03:01]

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