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User currently offlineFly764 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 114 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5097 times:

I just resigned from my career as a F/A with Continental after 1.5 years, but I'm off to bigger and better things. I'm heading to ATP flight school in Jacksonville to finish my PPL, then off to Stuart, Florida to finish the rest of my ratings. Hopefully in a few more years I will be back with my airline! It was the hardest decision to make but I truly want to become a pilot. It was just so hard to put my resignation in as a FA because I truly love that job and will miss it alot, along with my seniority! Wish me luck!

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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5092 times:

Quoting Fly764 (Thread starter):

Hey good luck to you! I'm in the middle of LX's pilotschool selection process, so hopefully, if the remaining two rounds will go well, i should be starting my training in January! Let's hope for the best  Smile


User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5060 times:

Were you not able to take a leave of absence and keep your emp number?? Well, congratulations on you endeavors! After being a mainline f/a, will you condescend to fly the Embraer at expressjet??  Wink

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

Quoting Fly764 (Thread starter):

Do you have a 4 year college degree...??? It's all but a must to get hired with an airline.



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User currently offlineN710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4992 times:

Hahaahah tell that to Piedmont and Colgan or Gulfstream, or even us.


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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4986 times:

Congratulations and good luck! I'm preparing to start my PPL and I can't wait.

Hope I see you in the air someday.

[Edited 2007-10-13 11:47:46]


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User currently offlineFLY764 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 114 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4823 times:

Quoting Drewwright (Reply 2):
Were you not able to take a leave of absence and keep your emp number??

I tried to take an educational leave of absence but I was not granted one due to staffing issues along with my seniority. I can however go back to being a FA with my employee number but not my true seniority which is fair.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
Do you have a 4 year college degree...??? It's all but a must to get hired with an airline.

I certainly do! I actually have a teaching degree, but really didn't care to teach that much. I have always wanted to be a pilot. I just took the smart route and went to state school cheap to get a nice degree I could fall back on if necessary.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4811 times:

Quoting FLY764 (Reply 6):
I certainly do!

Cool...keep your contacts at your old airline. It will help out in the long run.



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

Quoting N710PS (Reply 4):
Hahaahah tell that to Piedmont and Colgan or Gulfstream, or even us.

He meant major airlines, not regionals. And yes, I don't know of a major airline that will hire you without a 4 year. Maybe FL or F9, but the legacies won't even consider you no matter how many hours you have without a degree.



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User currently offlineFLY764 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 114 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4782 times:

I am keeping as many contacts as I can. Most pilots think I have a very good advantage of getting hired back on with mainline when the time comes simply because I have worked here already and that I have a good record with the company. I'm not sure which regional I want to work for yet because my goal is going to be get a job asap so I can start paying off my horrible loan, as well as building up those hours so I can get to a major as soon as I can.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4769 times:

Quoting FLY764 (Reply 9):
I'm not sure which regional I want to work for yet because my goal is going to be get a job asap so I can start paying off my horrible loan, as well as building up those hours so I can get to a major as soon as I can.

I'm not so sure you'll land a job with a regional right out of flight school. Most all require some actual flight time before they'll look at you and several hundred hours of time



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1186 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4765 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 8):
And yes, I don't know of a major airline that will hire you without a 4 year. Maybe FL or F9, but the legacies won't even consider you no matter how many hours you have without a degree.

As 777STL mentioned, all the legacy carriers wouldn't hire a pilot "candidate" w/o a 4-year college degree no matter what your flying qualifications are. It was also mentioned how FL or F9 might consider someone w/o a degree. This leads me to this question: would WN or B6 (and FL or F9, for that matter) consider a degree-less pilot? I know WN has among the highest pilot salaries, up there with bigger legacies (such as UA), as well as even FX and UPS, so I'd think that WN would require at least a bachelor's degree.


User currently offlineSoku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4752 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 10):

I'm not so sure you'll land a job with a regional right out of flight school. Most all require some actual flight time before they'll look at you and several hundred hours of time

From Piedmont's website... Minimum Qualifications: Commercial Pilot/IR with multi-engine land rating.

[Edited 2007-10-13 17:54:32]


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User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4744 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 8):
He meant major airlines, not regionals. And yes, I don't know of a major airline that will hire you without a 4 year. Maybe FL or F9, but the legacies won't even consider you no matter how many hours you have without a degree.



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
Do you have a 4 year college degree...??? It's all but a must to get hired with an airline.


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User currently offlineFLY764 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 114 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4739 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 10):
I'm not so sure you'll land a job with a regional right out of flight school. Most all require some actual flight time before they'll look at you and several hundred hours of time

I am not expecting a job right away, but right now the hiring spree is incredible amongst the regionals. I'd be stupid to wait any longer. Many regionals publish that they want 500TT, but many will hire less especially if you go to a school they have an alliance with or if you have contacts. I know about 4 people who got jobs with regionals with only 300TT. I will also have an advantage because when I graduate ATP I will have at least 190 ME time which is crucial.


User currently offlineUAL777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1550 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4709 times:

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 13):
Home > About United > Careers at United > Pilot
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They wont touch you without it. I have given the lasergrade psychology exam to a few guys and they were all in the 3,500-4,000 hour range with 2,000 turbine PIC. Yes they all had degrees.



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User currently offlineLeonjunior From New Zealand, joined Aug 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4709 times:

Congratulations and good luck

I m currently in the first year of marketing degree and being a pilot is what I always wanted to do.
Do you guys think I should head off for my ambition by getting into the ATP course next year or wait till I finish my degree which is another 2 years time. Another option could be head to the ATP course next year and continue my degree after I got my ATP. Which one is a better option? thanks


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4709 times:

Quoting 747fan (Reply 11):
This leads me to this question: would WN or B6 (and FL or F9, for that matter) consider a degree-less pilot? I know WN has among the highest pilot salaries, up there with bigger legacies (such as UA), as well as even FX and UPS, so I'd think that WN would require at least a bachelor's degree.

WN, I doubt. WN can afford to be as picky as requiring a 737 type rating before applying. That being said, I don't imagine them hiring too many degree-less pilots. Not saying it doesn't happen, but they tend to have high standards.



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User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1186 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 17):
WN, I doubt. WN can afford to be as picky as requiring a 737 type rating before applying. That being said, I don't imagine them hiring too many degree-less pilots. Not saying it doesn't happen, but they tend to have high standards.

Thank you, that's what I was assuming. I also assume that FedEx and UPS want a bachelor's degree, given that their pilots are among the highest paid in the industry. Does anyone know if B6 wants a bachelor's degree? I don't know how their pilots are paid, probably less than WN's.


User currently offlineN53614 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

Hey, good luck at ATP!


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User currently offlineUncleBuck From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4544 times:

nice choice at ATP my friend  Wink you'll have a job with a top regional (ie, expressjet) with minimum time due to the quality of training you'll receive and written agreements. whoever says they aren't so sure you'll receive a job blah blah blah is sorely misinformed  Smile have fun flying as an FO for ATP within a year! i'll miss seein ya 'round!

User currently offlineN710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4533 times:

EMBQA I agree that in most cases the airlines will not hire without a degree but working for a regional that has in recent times hired a few with no college and perhaps a few with a year at a community college but 500 hours flight time and a multi I can attest. I also have a few pals on the other side of the family flying the dash that can attest to this including someone high up the food chain of pilots at that company who is in CLT. Regionals are desperate. Colgan is seeing upgrade times of a year and sometimes even less at this point. Not to mention Piedmont has parked 4 Dashes this year due to lack of pilots. Right now alot of regionals are taking anyone with a pulse and a medical.


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User currently offlineAirbuster From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

Hi all,

Good luck to those of you starting training, i know it's a long way to the majors in the US.

Here in europe the majors hire people with less than 300 hours TT...and with only a highschool diploma to back them. It's all down to the rigid and difficult selection process but it would work in the states i'm sure...only school with a real selection process i know of in the USA is CAPT and then again they only get you into the regionals.

anyway how hard and stressfull training can get, remember, FLYING = FUN!

rgds

AB



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User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1791 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

Quoting Fly764 (Thread starter):
It was the hardest decision to make but I truly want to become a pilot. It was just so hard to put my resignation in as a FA because I truly love that job and will miss it alot, along with my seniority!

Changing careers like the way you have done is certainly a hard thing to do and requires a lot of determination. However, doing what you really want to do is the most important thing. Now that you have made a decision, I wish you all the very best in the flying school and hope you have a great career afterwards.

Good Luck !



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User currently offlineG4LASRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3853 times:

Yes, good luck with your flying career.

I too have seen some really low-time guys get hired this year - one of our rampers was hired at Mesa with the ink still wet on his commercial/multi/instrument - at about 250 hours total time.

Still thinking about getting my ATP off ice and flying again. But man, what it costs just to stay current!



"A pig that doesn't fly is just a pig." - Porco Rosso
25 Post contains images FLY764 : Thanks for allt he replies and encouragement guys! It means alot!
26 AF340 : You'll really enjoy it, I am doing my course right now and having so much fun! You definetely made the right choice! AF340
27 RJ111 : Good luck to you sir. I failed the interview stage of CTC sponsorship course last year and resultingly didn't get on the course (thought the acceptanc
28 FLY764 : Thanks again for the encouragement. I am just so worried about fuel costs. Oil just hit 84 a barrel. Who knows whats going to happen in the future wit
29 DeltaGuy : Tell that to Pinnacle, Mesaba, Mesa, etc etc.....multi commercial and a pulse! DeltaGuy
30 C172pic : Fly764: In the words of a very wise child: "Follow your dreams you CAN reach your goals I'm living proof Beefcake BEEFCAKE!!!" :D
31 Bahadir : ATP is not a flight school is a certificate factory..
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