Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26726 posts, RR: 83 Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5306 times:
As a Star Alliance man, it's always nice to have more options.
SandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3382 posts, RR: 51 Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5192 times:
Quoting BBADXB (Reply 2): Can't see how AI, let alone MS can make the grade to a *A airline.
Both airlines cover markets where *A is lacking, namely India and North/Middle Africa and Arabia. Furthermore, both airlines have placed huge orders for fleet renewals and are working on their service standards.
I myself am happy about it, as Stitch said:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 1): As a Star Alliance man, it's always nice to have more options
MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 846 posts, RR: 9 Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5032 times:
Alf Mabrouk Misr Leltayaran
Congratulations indeed Egyptair , 2008 looks like it will be a very interesting year for the Airline and Cairo . Looking forward to the opening of Terminal 3 at CAI .
The press release was talking about TK joining soon , all the best to the 2 Airlines
MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 846 posts, RR: 9 Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4966 times:
Quoting HECA (Reply 4): May CAI become thé Star Alliance hub of the Middle East and North Africa!
MS and CAI are going on the right track
Quoting Ramik (Reply 6): so all we have to do is wait for CAI-YYZ (Special Request for MSYYZ )
Spot on
Quoting Ramik (Reply 6): I wonder when we will see CAI-HKG ??
This route was on the cards along with IAH back in the late 90's early 2000's , but never materialized , hope joining *A will make making a decision re:HKG easier for MS officials .
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24929 posts, RR: 60 Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4953 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 1): As a Star Alliance man, it's always nice to have more options.
Yes exactly welcome to MS .
Quoting BBADXB (Reply 2): I'm seriously thinking of switching to BA and oneworld.
Both AI and MS have improved alot over the years. Time to shelve old stereo types !!! Star is still better than Oneworld!!! Its great to see so many cultural diverse airlines in Star!!!
Congrats to Star and MS
OLYMPIC AIR - ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΗ "Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΨΗΛΑ" "GREECE FLYING HIGH"
Kbdude From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4856 times:
On a related note... can someone confirm/comment:
CA - Invited May'06 - Full member in Dec '07
FM - Invited May '06 - Full member in Dec '07
TK - Invited Dec '06 - Full member in May '08???
MS - invited Oct '07 - Full member in April '09???
AI - Invited Date?? Dec '07 - Full member in Date?? May'09
Now all Star alliance needs is a Latin American carrier!
Qazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4818 times:
Quoting Kbdude (Reply 11): CA - Invited May'06 - Full member in Dec '07
FM - Invited May '06 - Full member in Dec '07
TK - Invited Dec '06 - Full member in May '08???
MS - invited Oct '07 - Full member in April '09???
AI - Invited Date?? Dec '07 - Full member in Date?? May'09
Now all Star alliance needs is a Latin American carrier!
Look for the likes of TAM and TACA to be announced sometime in 2008. TAM might even be announced by December. My go on this, watch all the airlines that sign agreements with Lufthansa.
Also look for Ethiopian, Air Malta, Aegean (*A Regional), and Air One. The latter will also probably be the next big purchase by LH - they seem to be waiting for Alitalia to close shop, Air One to take up its routes and then swallow it up!
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40 Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4759 times:
I can only go along with what you are saying.
Quoting BBADXB (Reply 2): Can't see how AI, let alone MS can make the grade to a *A airline.
Maybe we will see the pax on board the MS flights carrying live chickens like I have seen on the underground trains in Cairo.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4701 times:
Quoting Flyyul (Reply 10): Does Egyptair plan on using theri A330-200 to open North America services? It seems like a logical type airplane to make this happen.
First of all, congrats to MS and Star.
About the 332s, on another thread I mentioned 332s to be pushing their limits to do west bound N.American destinations (hot heavy westbound).
SA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 2916 posts, RR: 20 Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4691 times:
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Quoting Kbdude (Reply 11): CA - Invited May'06 - Full member in Dec '07
FM - Invited May '06 - Full member in Dec '07
TK - Invited Dec '06 - Full member in May '08???
CA and FM will become full members on December 12, 2007 and TK on April 1, 2008.
Rgds
SA7700
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TurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1408 posts, RR: 9 Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4691 times:
I am happy MS is joining too...Great news for the *A loyals like me
Hmmm, not sure about that one. Air One ia already a fully integrated Miles&More member, so any *A FF member can earn miles with them. I don't know what els ewould warrant an integration of Air One, unless as a regional member.
MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 846 posts, RR: 9 Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4515 times:
They currently operate :
12 A320
7 A330/200
4 A321
3 A340/200
3 B737/500
3 B738
5 B777/200ER
6 E-170 operating under Egyptair Express Total:43
On order :
5 A332 + 3 options + 3 to be leased
8 B777/300ER ( to be leased )
9 B738
6 E-170 ( may be upgraded to E-190 ) Total on order:34
There were plans to get rid of the A342 and the B735 , but because the Airline is short in A/C , these plans are shelved for now . But one should expect getting rid of the old A/C once the new planes start rolling in .
CaptinTuT From United States of America, joined May 2005, 345 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4466 times:
Congrats MS - finally official word . way to go MS
Ramik From Egypt, joined Sep 2007, 41 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4336 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 13): Quoting BBADXB (Reply 2):
Can't see how AI, let alone MS can make the grade to a *A airline.
Maybe we will see the pax on board the MS flights carrying live chickens like I have seen on the underground trains in Cairo.
LOL Honestly I can't blame ya for saying that but the one thing that I can assure you is that if that happens I would gladly shoot down the chicken and the planes
But seriously guys, I have never flown on Egyptair (Always Lufthansa!!!) Except for the last couple of years and you have no idea how in such a short time Egyptair transformed into a whole new airline !! may we hope the Best for MS and Star Alliance ..
MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 846 posts, RR: 9 Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4105 times:
Quoting Ramik (Reply 23): But seriously guys, I have never flown on Egyptair (Always Lufthansa!!!) Except for the last couple of years and you have no idea how in such a short time Egyptair transformed into a whole new airline !! may we hope the Best for MS and Star Alliance ..
Indeed Ramik , the on-time performance of the Airline is now one of the best , check this website out : Airlines on-time performance
Not only that , customer service has greatly improved , in February they had a new website up and running with online booking engine , newer planes are added to the fleet bringing the average fleet age down while dramatically increasing the fleet size , newer routes were opened in 2007 including KUL,CAN and LIS .
And don't forget , they have one of the best on board meals
25 Beaucaire: Agree that they have improved.. - but they should jump over their shadows ans start serving alcoholic beverages for those passengers that want a can
26 ORD Boy 2: Either way Egypt Air and Air India are good pickups for Star, now its just Latin America, Russia and Australia (I know ANZ is there) are the only hole
27 Ramik: LOL although I don't drink but I do agree with you on that !!! but it is still going to create a certain kind of dilemma within the company.. I think
28 Aircanada014: Thats terrific news to hear Egyptair finally joins Star Alliance, way to go . As soon as AC get their new B787s I know Cairo is on their future destin
29 MSYYZ: As planned , Egyptair and Lufthansa have started code-sharing as of October/28th .
30 CaptinTuT: I have flown many airlines in the past and i know that there are a lot of people that would choose some other airline over MS just because MS don't s
31 HECA: Another step forward for EgyptAir. I'm curious which other Star Alliance airlines will expand their code-share agreements with MS, or enter new agree
32 MSYYZ: Both pilots and cabin crew refuse to serve Alcohol on board . Back in 1999 , when i flew from New York to Cairo , MS staff were distributing Alcohol
33 Ramik: I believe SQ code share on their flights to SIN with Egyptair as well as OS on their flights from VIE
34 CaptinTuT: My feeling is that EgyptAir might change in the future once they join the alliance. lets see how this will work. I know a lot of FA on MS and i'm sur
35 AA1818: Star Alliance seems to be snapping up airlines in Africa at the moment. It appears to be on a massive expansion drive. Good luck to them! Congrats to
36 Semsem: Egyptair was always a good airline with an excellent reputation. My mother used to fly with them in the 1940s from Cairo to Tel Aviv. They stopped in
37 ZTagged: Go MS! Glad to hear they're finally becoming part of the 'Liance! Can't wait to fly on them~
38 FlyMD: I don't know why everybody is screaming about MS not serving alcohol. If it is not their custom to drink/serve alcohol, why should they start now? Is
39 ZTagged: In before "IT RELIEVES ANXIETY!" Concur. The airports have enough bars/taverns/resturants that serve it, just so you can have your chocotini before y
40 CaptinTuT: No one is screaming FlyMD, we just sharing opinions, most of the people that talked about that don't even drink. Like i said above i don't drink, but
41 HECA: My experience says the opposite: on every flight I have been the cabin crew clearly states that it is prohibited to drink any alcoholic beverages bes
42 Abrelosojos: = Actually, I think AI and MS are excellent additions to the fleet. AI's drawback is its unreliable flight operations. However, inflight AI is signif
43 WesternA318: Sweet newws, now I can go SLC-ORD-CAI?
44 HECA: Not yet! There are no flights between ORD and CAI currently. Transfer in JFK or Europe is still needed from ORD. But perhaps in the near future MS or
45 Ramik: Fingers crossed with that thought !!! lets hope it comes soon !!
46 WesternA318: Well, I for one am praying that the mighty Horus touches down somewhere closer to SLC than JFK, and soon! Although, I'd prefer the A330/340's, the ro
47 Ramik: Wouldn't be LAX closer than ORD ?? But anyways I haven't heard any news about if MS are willing to reinstate CAI-LAX into their network soon ... oh w
48 WesternA318: It would be, if MS flew to LAX...that WOULD be nice though. When did they pull that flight?
49 MSYYZ: After 9/11 , the Airline suspended its LAX route, attributing the move to tightened security procedures at US airports and concerns about the safety
50 WesternA318: Do you think a schedule change (i.e. longer time on ground between LAX/JFK and JFK/CAI) couldve worked and still keep the highj yields? Or would the
51 Ramik: I think if MS introduced YYZ with an extension to LAX then this might work for their advantage, they would be bypassing US immigration's hassles as we
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