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Aerolíneas Argentinas To Auckland - Hong Kong 08?  
User currently offlineSuper80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 148 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

I was looking at Wikipedia regarding Hong Kong International Airport and seems that Aerolíneas Argentinas to Auckland - Hong Kong


Can anyone confirm that ? I tired to google is..but I cant seem to find anything.

Are they going to use their 742/744 ?

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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3441 times:

Aerolineas Argentinas To Lisbon? (by USADreamliner Oct 13 2007 in Civil Aviation)


Must be some bored guy playing with wikipedia info.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4818 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3313 times:

Quoting Super80 (Thread starter):
was looking at Wikipedia regarding Hong Kong International Airport and seems that Aerolíneas Argentinas to Auckland - Hong Kong


Can anyone confirm that ? I tired to google is..but I cant seem to find anything.

Are they going to use their 742/744 ?

Haven't heard anything about it, but it is an interesting proposition... one that NZ has been looking at for sometime and will come into effect soon once NZ makes a return to South America.

btw HKG-AKL-EZE 10523 nm
HKG-EZE (if it were possible) 9957 nm

If AR were to do this it would be with A340



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5315 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Din't AR fly to HKG via AKL briefly in the 1980's with a 742?

AR could probably do HKG via AKL or MAD. Maybe to build up frequencies EZE-AKL to compete with LAN they would go via AKL?

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 2):
Haven't heard anything about it, but it is an interesting proposition... one that NZ has been looking at for sometime and will come into effect soon once NZ makes a return to South America.

When NZ start service to South America it will be the first time they have been there! And yes it would have connections from Australian and Asian cities.


User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

... you shouldn't believe everything (or, perhaps, anything) you read in Wikipedia, it's been well documented how much of it has been 'amended' by people just making stuff up.Contrarily, it (Wiki) epitomises the best & the worst 'features' of the Internet...

Riv'



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4818 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 3):
When NZ start service to South America it will be the first time they have been there! And yes it would have connections from Australian and Asian cities.

NZ did briefly fly to EZE I think it was about the same time as they flew to BKK etc in the 90s



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5315 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 5):
NZ did briefly fly to EZE I think it was about the same time as they flew to BKK etc in the 90s

Can someone confirm that because I certainly don't remember it. I'm not saying they didn't but I don't think they did.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4818 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 6):
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 5):
NZ did briefly fly to EZE I think it was about the same time as they flew to BKK etc in the 90s

Can someone confirm that because I certainly don't remember it. I'm not saying they didn't but I don't think they did.

I just remember it being talked about on here several times in the past... back in the days before NZ bought up AN. Could be wrong since so much that is said on here is based on hearsay... NZ is only now back to the size it was Internationally back then... Through the late 90's NZ was gutted by the likes of BIL/Selwyn Cushing etc and of course the fiasco of AN.

[Edited 2007-10-19 01:32:54]


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User currently offlineDJ748 From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

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Quoting Super80 (Thread starter):
I was looking at Wikipedia regarding Hong Kong International Airport and seems that Aerolíneas Argentinas to Auckland - Hong Kong

1) AR fly EZE-AKL-SYD a few times a week. Unless AR drop AKL-SYD leg and send the A340-200 to HKG instead, I don't see this happening. Unless of course AR decide to start EZE-SYD non-stop with a 744.
2) Don't believe too much of what you read on Wikipedia - it has a reputation of not being very accurate.


User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1920 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2580 times:

Quoting DJ748 (Reply 8):
1) AR fly EZE-AKL-SYD a few times a week. Unless AR drop AKL-SYD leg and send the A340-200 to HKG instead, I don't see this happening. Unless of course AR decide to start EZE-SYD non-stop with a 744.

Or with the A345... There's a thread running about Air Comet getting the A345, but maybe it's Grupo Marsans that is getting the A345 and putting them on the Aerolineas Argentinas network.

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6417 posts, RR: 38
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2566 times:

Quoting DJ748 (Reply 8):
Don't believe too much of what you read on Wikipedia - it has a reputation of not being very accurate.

Apparently anyone can change data on there.. So much so that Helen Clark (PM of NZ) has blocked any additions to her name..



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9023 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2546 times:

Quoting Super80 (Thread starter):

Can anyone confirm that ? I tired to google is..but I cant seem to find anything.

The only logical way forward I see for this would be a code share with NZ (Star) or CX (Oneworld). QF (Oneworld) already have a code share agreement in place with them.

Why anyone would want to do this is beyond me, EZE-JNB-HKG is shorter.



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User currently offlineSpeedyGonzales From Norway, joined Sep 2007, 729 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2530 times:

Quoting Zeke (Reply 11):
Why anyone would want to do this is beyond me, EZE-JNB-HKG is shorter.

Here's routes for EZE-HKG via AKL, JNB, PPT and PER:
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=e...E=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=

It's shortest via Perth, but the EZE-PER segment will spend a lot of time over Antarctica, which I'm not sure if is desirable.



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User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6417 posts, RR: 38
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2517 times:

Quoting SpeedyGonzales (Reply 12):
which I'm not sure if is desirable.

Imagine doing that flight in summer then. The spectacular sight from above instead of spending large amounts on a cruise. Mind you it's not much further to PUQ/USH and Cape Horn where you can actually experience it from sea level.. I'd go on it if it was only to see Antarctica.



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9023 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Quoting SpeedyGonzales (Reply 12):

It's shortest via Perth, but the EZE-PER segment will spend a lot of time over Antarctica, which I'm not sure if is desirable.

I dont see that as being commercially viable. It would be cheaper for PER traffic to go via SYD.

Via JNB/CPT in my view would be commercially viable, at the moment the quickest way is via CDG and on the way back from AKL, both with CX connections.

Airlines are hesitant is going beyond 65 deg south due to the distance the leads you from suitable alternates.



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8333 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2408 times:
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I don't see AR flying to Hong Kong via New Zealand or any where else. It doesn't have enough planes to fly where it needs to fly like Miami, JFK, Madrid and FCO. Until AR gets more A340's it should fly daily to as many destinations it can serve daily not 3 times weeklt here and 4 times there, why on earth does AR need to fly to New Zealand and Australia as it currently does. I realize most AR services to Europe and the USA have heavy competition but that is AR's fault not the foreign airlines.

User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5315 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 15):
why on earth does AR need to fly to New Zealand and Australia as it currently does.

AKL/SYD is profitable for AR.

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 15):
I realize most AR services to Europe and the USA have heavy competition but that is AR's fault not the foreign airlines.

What on earth does that mean? So it AR's fault that other airlines can fly the same routes as AR does?

Quoting Zeke (Reply 11):
QF (Oneworld) already have a code share agreement in place with them.

QF have codeshared with AR before when both airlines used to fly SYD-AKL-EZE but this ended years ago. QF now codeshare on LA's SCL-AKL-SYD.


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