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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Reuters is reporting BA is looking into a possible merger with AA.

Quote:
"American Airlines is a key partner for us and in the long term we would like a closer relationship with them," a BA spokesman told Reuters in response to the report.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUKL1844290320071018?rpc=44

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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17063 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

This is a really good strategy for both AA and BA. then they can compete better against AF/DL.

I can see this happen in the near future.



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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

I know you should never say never but I doubt they would be able to get there hands on BD, firstly because of DOT hurdles and of course I am sure a certain airline like LH would have a say in the matter as well!
I wonder if they do pursue the tie up with AA what is the likely amount of slots they might have to reliquish at LHR as a result of that??
Very interesting times ahead!


User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3655 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3362 times:
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Sounds more like reapplying for anti-trust immunity. Quote from the article

Quote:
It also said that BA was considering a renewed attempt to merge with American Airlines (AMR.N: Quote, Profile, Research), despite two previous attempts being struck down by competition regulators.

BA and AA applied twice for anti-trust immunity, which were both denied.


User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Thread starter):
Reuters is reporting BA is looking into a possible merger with AA.

A merger would not be legal under US law. US airlines must substantially owned and effectively controlled by US citizens. Also CEO and majority of Board members must be US citizens.

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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 3):
BA and AA applied twice for anti-trust immunity, which were both denied.

I dont think the last attempt was deniued at all, IIRC, it was in fact, approved subject to loosing a lot of slots at LHR. BA/AA decided tht thios was not an option.

With OS the market is now free to fly into LHR. I suppose BA could put up a better argument as to why it should not loose slots.

Quoting ANother (Reply 4):
A merger would not be legal under US law. US airlines must substantially owned and effectively controlled by US citizens. Also CEO and majority of Board members must be US citizens.

This was my understanding too, however, there is nothing to stop BA owing 49.9% of the equity and just 25% of the voting rights.....I dont think.

Brian.



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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

BA and BD have both announced this morning that they have had no discussions whatsoever about a merger so looks like BA is simply interested in getting in to bed with AA.

User currently offlineAAJFKSJUBKLYN From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3081 times:

This was announced on NYC radio this am, although it was vague, looking to hear more....AA and BA IMHO would a wonderful match up..

User currently offlineScotron11 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1178 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 1):

I can see this happen in the near future.

Hopefully. We all wanted "fortress" LHR opened up and it finally happened! I think the tie-up of AF/KLM and the recent AF/KLM Skyteam "merger" would be a good precedent. And maybe the price to pay would'nt be as much as the benefits.

BTW, could the BA terminal and AA terminal at JFK be joined?? I know they're next to each other but I seem to remember there's a road that cuts right through them.

regards


User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1616 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

Quoting ANother (Reply 4):
A merger would not be legal under US law. US airlines must substantially owned and effectively controlled by US citizens. Also CEO and majority of Board members must be US citizens.

I thought a future softening (or removal?) of this law was an understanding under the open skies agreement with the EU?


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16857 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

Quoting Scotron11 (Reply 8):
BTW, could the BA terminal and AA terminal at JFK be joined?? I know they're next to each other but I seem to remember there's a road that cuts right through them.

The two terminals can't be joined but why would they even want to, AA's JFK terminal has plenty of room for expansion. The Terminal is built only halfway to it's original scope, it was originally envisioned as a 55 gate mega Terminal. When all the construction is done it will have only 39 gates and about half the square footage, building the Terminal out to it's full design would provide plenty of gate, ticketing and lounge areas for BA.



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User currently offlineAAJFKSJUBKLYN From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2757 times:

A 6 lane highway runs between AA and BA...It would never happen.

User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

Quoting Scotron11 (Reply 8):
BTW, could the BA terminal and AA terminal at JFK be joined?? I know they're next to each other but I seem to remember there's a road that cuts right through them

Well they are kinda connected already with the JFKskyrail transit system. However building a simple bridge/walkway system past secutrity for simple transfers could be done. I wont be though in my opinion.

Speak of AA's new terminal in JFK, when will they get rid of that mess which is terminal 8??
They could then expand the mega terminal proplery and include enough heavy gates for BA also and allow them to operate underone roof. However I think if this was ever going to happen then i beleive they would have to make it a Oneworld terminal which would involve a lot of movement at JFK as CX,JAL,(RJ?),LA,IB,(QF?) operate also into JFK.

In my opinion with people wanting better/easier connections this should be done, and if they can build a special train just for OW at LHR to operate from T3-T5 that would make the transfer a little bit less stressful


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