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No Routes: YOW To EEC?  
User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

It seems strange that YOW, which has become quite a large operation since I was young, has still not managed to maintain a route to the European mainland. Only a daily to LHR exists. (I realize there are probably some charters.)

I would suggest that the demand is there. KLM tried it for a while to AMS, but the Canadian Government was requiring them to make a stop in I think Halifax in order to have rights to the route. That restriction made it undesirable for those originating in Ottawa, and there wasn't enought compensating demand from the Maritimes, so KLM cancelled it. I believe they were doing thrice weekly?

It seems to me that if KLM thought there was potentially enough demand YOW-AMS (government intervention not withstanding), then there would be certainly enough demand for the two powerhouse European hubs: FRA, CDG, would there not?

Is Ottawa still putting this one-stop requirement on any airline that applies?


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

A YOW-FRA route would make the most sense; to allow connections via the massive STAR alliance hub at FRA. AC and LH are founding members of the Star Alliance.

User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1596 times:

YOW does have a short summer-seasonal nonstop CDG, mind you it's a weekly TS charter over a 12 week period, but it's better than nothing.

I'm confident that once open skies with Europe becomes a reality, that someone will fly from YOW to a European hub. YOW handles 1.5 million more pax today annually than it did when KL left in 1996.


User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 1):
A YOW-FRA route would make the most sense; to allow connections via the massive STAR alliance hub at FRA. AC and LH are founding members of the Star Alliance.

afaik, there's no openskies between Canada and Germany, but a new agreement has been reached will take effect in early 2008 (i hope I'm not getting things wrong here).
perhaps then will see additional services between Canada and Germany. I am very sure the YOW-FRA is a route closely looked at by AC and LH. i think this one's quite likely!



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User currently offlineJamincan From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

Well, YOW-FRA was listed on some AC document as one of those imminent routes that they hope to develop in the future. We'll see how committed they are to it.

I'm rather curious about AF to YOW once open skies are in place. Currently they are restricted from flying there due to the bilateral; however, once that restriction is gone, they may consider the route. They currently operate a bus service connecting Ottawa to their Montreal flights, and I believe the region is the third most populous francophone area in Canada, probably over half a million. I suppose they'd jump on YQB first if the airport could handle them (I don't know what their facilities are like, but I imagine they could).


User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Quoting Jamincan (Reply 4):
I suppose they'd jump on YQB first if the airport could handle them (I don't know what their facilities are like, but I imagine they could).

Think AC tried that a ways back on a weekly basis, and TS as well. Probably a better charter market as it will never support a daily service, and the backtrack to YUL is not so bad.



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User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Quoting Johnnybgoode (Reply 3):
there's no openskies between Canada and Germany,

Canada and German have open skies way back in mid 90s just before Star Alliance was born.
AC also have 5th freedom rights in Germany too if I do recall.


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