GlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 709 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 18268 times:
Well, just make it be true! That would mean, we got rid of to frequently upcoming questions concerning LH, that would be: "LH -- why no PTVs" and "LH and Seattle"..... in quite a short timeframe.
Atleast "LH's replacement of A300" would be left.
On a related matter: FRA-SEA would be quite the limit for the A333 wouldn't it? Would habe expected them to go with the A343 on such a route. I mean, to Portland they are flying the A343, aren't they?! So they would be serving Vancouver, Portland and just about 200km in between both Seattle, not bad.
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BA744PHX From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 290 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 18109 times:
So still no PHX what is taking LH so long to relaunch?
LH506 From Ecuador, joined May 2007, 416 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 18112 times:
Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 3): Have LH received new 330's or are they cutting down on any other routes using this type of aircraft?
LH will have for the summer '08 5 additional 333s and 3 more 346s. You can reduce 3 A343s which will be used for expansion ex DUS leaves 5 net. These services would probably require 2 a/c plus one for the on the other thread rumoured MUC-SIN, which would leave two more for other expansions/frequency increases, assuming everything else stays the same. Then there are the 300s which are/will partly be reconfigured and used on mediumhaul to Central Asia/Northern Africa.
GlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 709 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 18094 times:
Quoting BA744PHX (Reply 5): So still no PHX what is taking LH so long to relaunch?
I would guess that they don't have a 343 left for this service. Since they will be basing 3 A343 at DUS with the beginning of 2008 they will already be short of A343. They won't put a A346 or 744 on FRA-PHX and the A333 won't make it with a decent payload out of the hot PHX to FRA.
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Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5955 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 18062 times:
After years of flying to Vancouver Lufthansa finally crosses the border to Washington state.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5081 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 18044 times:
Interesting that LH will be flying to three of the major airports in the Pacific Northwest. I guess that would make three new international carriers potentially serving SEA next year, which includes Hainan Airlines and Vladavia.
Cyba From Rwanda, joined Nov 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17983 times:
Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 4): On a related matter: FRA-SEA would be quite the limit for the A333 wouldn't it? Would habe expected them to go with the A343 on such a route. I mean, to Portland they are flying the A343, aren't they?
Far from it. The 330 has quite a long range afaik. AF flies CDG-NRT which is 6048 miles. TAM flies GRU-LHR which is 5863 miles. FRA-SEA is only 5108 by comparison.
Stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2711 posts, RR: 11 Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17962 times:
hahaha I would say another myth is down!
after "LH and PTV" and "LH and A300" and "LH and SEA" and "LH and YYC" there is no discussions about LH anymore...
BUTas far as I know LH's A333 have the RR Trent engine and their range is s.th. around 4600-4700nm. a straight route FRA-SEA over Greenland has a range of 5100nm, so a A333 is not able to fly this route. but I'm not sure maybe LH have the the longer range version.
Stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2711 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17930 times:
Quoting Cyba (Reply 10): Far from it. The 330 has quite a long range afaik. AF flies CDG-NRT which is 6048 miles. TAM flies GRU-LHR which is 5863 miles. FRA-SEA is only 5108 by comparison.
these are flights operated with A330-200 which has a higher range than the A330-300 (which LH operates only)
PavlovsDog From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 653 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17917 times:
I remember when I lived in Seattle back in the early 90's reading an article that had statistics on foreign-languages spoken in the Seattle area. German came out on top!
I wonder if this spells the end of SK's long history in SEA. I have been a faithfull user of that flight but now that PDX has two flights to Europe it won't be my preferred option any more.
GlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 709 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17869 times:
Quoting Cyba (Reply 10): Far from it. The 330 has quite a long range afaik. AF flies CDG-NRT which is 6048 miles. TAM flies GRU-LHR which is 5863 miles. FRA-SEA is only 5108 by comparison.
As mentioned, these are flown by A332 as far as I know.... so I don't see LH putting a A333 on FRA-SEA and personally I can't see, where they will get A343 from for this route, as I would guess that there are routes that are more imminent than FRA-SEA needing a A343. In the end, LH is already serving two destinations in the north west of the US i.e. South west of Canada.
Personally, I would guess that LH would use a spare A343 for serving PHX rather than SEA. However, if there would be any delay, one A343 for the FRA-PHX run would be quite a close call.
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Stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2711 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17809 times:
Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 14): As mentioned, these are flown by A332 as far as I know.... so I don't see LH putting a A333 on FRA-SEA and personally I can't see, where they will get A343 from for this route, as I would guess that there are routes that are more imminent than FRA-SEA needing a A343. In the end, LH is already serving two destinations in the north west of the US i.e. South west of Canada.
these are some routes which are operated with A343 at the moment, but could be accessable with A333 due to the shorter range:
I have heard from a pilot years ago (I do not recall exactly the reason) that the 333 could make that run but that contract restrictions with the pilots or LH internal safety restrictions do not allow LH to use the 333 flights of that length. I am not sure though since it has been a couple of years ago...
Aamr From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 38 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17700 times:
is anyone else still hoping to see this in print before jumping for joy?
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5955 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 17599 times:
Lufthansa finally crosses the border to Washington state after flying to Vancouver for years.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7488 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 17539 times:
I wonder why LH will use the A330-300 on the FRA-SEA route, unless they're higher MTOW versions that includes more fuel capacity. Given Lufthansa's 30-plane A340-300 fleet wouldn't using the A343 be a better choice?
GlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 709 posts, RR: 7 Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 17492 times:
Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 19): US is most likely going to pick up PHX-FRA with the A333's coming online from the new order.
Could the A333 actually do that trip with a good payload, looking at the hot weather in PHX?
Quoting RayChuang (Reply 20): I wonder why LH will use the A330-300 on the FRA-SEA route, unless they're higher MTOW versions that includes more fuel capacity. Given Lufthansa's 30-plane A340-300 fleet wouldn't using the A343 be a better choice?
They do have a big A343 fleet. However, LH is a bit short of long haul equipment, not as bad as other airlines but still. And looking at the fact that they are stationed at FRA and MUC and three of them will go to DUS doesn't make the situation much better.
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RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 7197 posts, RR: 50 Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 17197 times:
This will be wonderful. One thing for sure is thast the flight to SEA will have ALOT of passengers in transit to India. LH has extensive services to India, and if the connections work, I see this as a big money maker. There aren't that many options for one stop flights between SEA and India. BA has the market now, but that will change. BA's fares are very high.
I believe that when NW operates A333s on SEA-AMS, there can be weight restrictions, which helped instigate A332s operating the route.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
Robbie86 From Sweden, joined May 2006, 501 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 17167 times:
Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 13): I wonder if this spells the end of SK's long history in SEA.
I've heard that CPH-SEA is SK's most profitable route so I doubt they will end it now
Next flights: ARN-LHR-IAD on BA 319/VS343 EWR-LHR-ARN on VS346/BA319
25 Flyyul: bola... be careful about posting this kind of stuff on the internet, especially if you work @ LH FRA-YYC is a good idea, given the boom in the Alberta
26 Itsnotfinals: PHX-FRA is on the edge for the A330 for sure in hot conditions. I have a few HP pilot buddies that say that FRA is possible if not with the A330 then
27 Floridaflyboy: Yeah, everyone seems totally focused on SEA here! This is AWESOME news for YYC! Great to see international expansion there! I really hope it does wel
28 Bagoldex: Is there actually a source on this? Something about the phrase: "the most reliable source you can imagine" just doesn't do it for me especially from s
29 Kohflot: I agree. On the surface it would appear, with YVR and PDX flights to FRA and the connections from SEA, that SEA-MUC would have made more sense. I won
30 Thenoflyzone: To me neither !!! I'll wait for the offical LH press release.
31 Dutchjet: Before the celebration begins.........is there any comfirmation or anything offical concerning this announcement? Very true. And, SK has suggested th
32 Flysherwood: NWA flies to India from Amsterdam.
33 Stitch: I have heard the same for many years, but the most recent SK financial filing said that SEA was one of the five worst long-haul markets for the compa
34 PanAm330: Considering that they're starting MCO-FRA with A333s, I think their 'contract restriction' has been changed since then. And unless I'm losing it, I'd
35 Adicool: Don't forget "LH and Latin America?" respectivly "LH and GIG?" ^^
36 N1120A: It would They are flying to THE three major airports in the PNW I think you mean A332s, though are those aircraft still on order or what?
37 Blrsea: Yup, thats true!! I was waiting for this for a long time. LH offers more connections to India than NW. LH flies to BOM/DEL/BLR/MAA/CCU in India and t
38 Robbie86: Last year was the first year in a long time that SAS Intercontinental made a profit, so I personally don't belive they will end long-hauls. They have
39 ZRH: I was also wondering. I think on this route they will have a payload restriction with the 333 (probably no cargo). Of course they do. But you are spe
40 Behramjee: LH's new FRA-YYC-FRA flight timings are expected to be as follows : Dep FRA 1215 Arr YYC 1400 Dep YYC 1530 Arr FRA 0915+1 Thus enabling in both direct
42 A350XWB: FRA has much better connections to India, middle East and North Africa than MUC. So it's no surprise if they start this service in FRA and not MUC. B
43 PanAm330: Indeed they are, just reconfirmed by US a couple weeks ago. 10 332s on order, according to their website. They have the flexibility to change them to
44 717-200: Ditto on that. I checked this morning on LH's press releases and saw zilch on SEA or YYC new flights.
45 C172Akula: That seems to be a pretty quick turnaround for the 330 here in YYC. Think they can pull it off? Or do they have to due to gate space on the B/C pier
46 N1120A: It isn't THAT quick. They should be able to turn it in 90 minutes.
47 Mason: I too thought LH would operate SEA out of MUC. It is likely that the A346 will do PDX duty, freeing up a few 343s for the SEA run (esp. in the summer?
48 RoseFlyer: I've done SEA-LHR-BLR and thought the connection was rather painless. You stay within terminal 4, so it isn't that bad. You just have to reclear secu
49 Itsnotfinals: Yes, A330-200's my bad. yes the order is: 18 A350-800 * 4 A350-900 * 10 A330-200 (the press release specifically says these are newly ordered) * 10 A
50 Gigneil: US has A330-200s on order, no further A333s. There is no way an A330-300 of any variant could fly PHX-FRA. No. Not at all. They'd have to cancel it f
51 MAH4546: No, it's not. In fact, in 2005, it was their biggest money losing trans-Atlantic route.
52 Wedgetail737: Well, I didn't want to offend the folks near GEG and BOI...not that they have any serious int'l service.
54 DALCE: Me too, I have not heard anything about these new routings! YYC is imaginable, but at this point I don't see a MUC/FRA-SEA flight. With an airline st
55 LHPDX: So where is the official announcement? I'm not seeing it anywhere, but on airliners.net.....................
56 HB-IWC: The original poster, unlike many others in here, has in the past shown himself to be a very reliable source when it comes to Lufthansa network develo
57 LHPDX: With this new flight to SEA negatively affect Lufthansa present flights to YVR and PDX?
58 LHUSA: I really don't think so. PDX and SEA basically have their own catchment areas and SEA doesn't really feed much into LH's PDX flight. I think that any
59 EDDB: That's because you don't have access to LHs intranet.... But it's all true, times.... types.....frequencies.....dest.... Just wait a few days if you
60 RwSEA: I don't think it will at all. SEA, PDX, and YVR are all very distinct markets with their own draw. SEA already had plenty of options to FRA (via an e
61 Bobnwa: After reading this thread, I have a suggestion that we try to refer to the 330-300 and the 330-200 or 333 and 332. Just calling it a 330 leads to too
62 Someone83: Wrong, that's CPH-NRT I might be wrong, but I doubt LH will use 333 on FRA-SEA as the load penalties will most likely be significant.
63 Qantas744ER: BTW MUC-JFK-MUC is back to a333 from a346 for the winter. Leo
64 C172Akula: I have heard from a source that the YYC service would see an announcement before the 29th of this month. So this seems to be falling in line with tha
65 LHSTR: But MUC-EWR is now a A330 instead of the BBJ. So a lot of new capacity to New York, specially in Economy Class.
66 ER757: Just checked with my contacts at Port of Seattle and the word is that LH has shown interest but there is nothing definite at this time. So, let's wait
67 9252fly: So what does the LH service to YYC mean for AC daily AC844/AC845 flights? Will AC withdraw service and codeshare,or will there be double daily service
68 Yegbey01: Since AC and LH have a joint venture on all flights between Germany and Canada, you would think that they would opt for YEG and dominate the market. T
69 C172Akula: What if it is just too good to pass up on doing a second flight to FRA from YYC? This seems to be indicating that this is the case. I'm sure in the n
70 Bakersdozen: I know the loads on YYC-FRA on AC have been really really good. Just had a friend fly in on LHR-YYC this afternoon and he said almost every middle sea
71 Sebring: They have a joint venture but it doesn't mean they have a veto over each other's route selection. This is what LH wanted. Period. They know how certa
72 SANFan: SAN can be added to your list of rumors. IF there is in fact any truth to this "announcement" of SEA service and IF PDX-FRA continues (which I would
73 FLYACYYZ: Agreed. But traditionally under Star Alliance agreements, AC & LH have divvied up Canada with the exception of YYZ, as traffic levels can sustain bot
74 C172Akula: Well then I would guess that they've decided YYC can sustain both carriers. It would seem to indicate that wouldn't it? My source also mentioned that
75 HUYfan: Can anyone provisionally outline LH's long-haul plans for MUC next summer? Regards Mike
76 Flysherwood: Would the relatively short length of the runway at SAN have any negative impact on that decision?
77 B747forever: Yeah, that was for 2years ago, now days it is maybe better.
78 Stylo777: during hot summer days absolutely YES! I heard that the 343 need more runway during take-off than a 380
79 Kiwiandrew: I always thought the problem with the 340's hairdryers - oops , I mean 'engines' - was climb performance once airborne rather than actual take off ro
81 LH423: Actually, 90 mins is fairly tight for an A330. Doable, absolutely but it leaves very little room for error. If the plane comes in more than 15 minute
82 Kiwiandrew: as much as I would love to take the credit for it the A342 and A343 engines have been referred to as 'hairdryers' for a long time - I am only copying
86 Gunsontheroof: Really surprised to see this, I wasn't expecting to see LH come to SEA for quite awhile. Nevertheless, great news! The prospects of a cheaper fare to
87 KPDX: Still waiting for the actual proof till I believe a word that is said......
88 PDXBJV: They seriously have this sign up there!?!??!?!?!?! Hahaha were they getting hopeful back when PDX and SEA were fighting over LH???
89 28L28L: After years of flying to Vancouver Lufthansa finally crosses the border to Washington state. Does anyone know when LH first began service to YVR?
91 Stylo777: could you take or show a picture of that sign? it is very interesting since LH doesn't serve SEA for years!
92 ThreeIfByAir: Grrrr.... Spring Break too early. If this proves to be true, it will be the end of a very successful campaign to bring more European flights to SEA.
93 Gunsontheroof: If my memory serves me correctly, the sign was there well before the PDX/SEA competition for LH service. It's on the same sign board as the United/Un
94 Viscount724: Ironically, considering the subject of this thread, when LH first began service to YVR using the DC-10-30 they stopped in YYC. The YYC service didn't
95 Ctbarnes: Hmmm... MU, as I recall, used to serve both cities from SEA in the 90's. Would be if a direct SEA-China service started again. Would be even nicer if
96 N174UA: If FRA-SEA on LH turns out to be true, it looks like Makes me wonder if a decision by SK to cut CPH-SEA has already been made. If the FRA-SEA goes int
97 Leskova: A bit similar to CO flying to FRA and CGN (about an hour apart by train)... or, using the Seattle-Portland train ride as a measure, a bit like CO fly
98 B747forever: Think it would be better if SK cut this service and instead they can open a new route.
99 RwSEA: If it's been a steady money-loser, then they should consider it. However, it would be a shame given that the route has been operated for decades, and
100 B747forever: Yeah, it will be a shame, but what to do when they loose money on that route???
102 B752OS: One would assume that this is going to spell the end of the flight. Why have 2 star carriers in SEA to Europe, especially when one, SK, is doing poor
103 BCAInfoSys: Actually.. I'm 90% sure that there's a sign for Iberia (IB) as well...
104 RwSEA: And SK/LH serve entirely different markets. SK can serve Europe well but they are non-existent in the increasingly important India market. I think th
105 B752OS: Well if you read his post more closely, he mentions busing people from one station to another, in this case PDX, SEA, and YVR. I was just simply poin
106 MAH4546: I agree it is being blown out of proportion and there isn't necessarily a link between them, but it is a reasonable possibility. SAS entire long-haul
107 AirCop: Same here in PHX, LH has a sign at the entrance to Terminal 2 with United/Ted/United Express..I should note the sign was still there when LH served P
108 Viscount724: If you're referring to direct AC flights from YVR to Europe, they actually only serve one destination in Europe with their own aircraft -- LHR. They
109 Jamincan: So, if I understand correctly, YYC will almost have as much European service as YVR once this new LH flight begins?
110 Viscount724: Except YVR has KL nonstops to AMS. No direct AMS service from YYC since KL pulled out in the mid-90s sometime.
111 Gunsontheroof: Nope. Went through departures today, had a look and didn't see it (that's not to say it hasn't been there in the past). I think the only other airlin
112 Leskova: Just received an eMail from LH this morning, confirming FRA-SEA and FRA-YYC: LH490/LH491 FRA-SEA VT 1-7 LH/333 F8/C48/M165 starting 30.March 2008, LH4
113 JoFMO: May I ask how you arrange to get such letters? Because you are a senator, a moderator, or what is it?
114 Stylo777: this isn't loaded to Amadeus yet, but I believe you when you post this... VT 1-7 means daily or only Monday and Sunday operation???
115 GOT: Judging from a similar post in the thread about MUC-SIN which is to be 5/w I'd say that this means daily. Compare to: /Robert
116 C172Akula: Thanks for the information! So what does all this mean? I'm assuming the 333 is the A330-300, what are the letters and numbers after that referring t
117 Stylo777: configuration of the aircraft. 8 First Class, 48 Business and 165 in Eco...
118 C172Akula: That's what I was thinking it meant, thanks for the confirmation!
119 Leskova: The company I work for gets LH fare & schedule information fairly quickly... They'll be loaded by 5 November - sorry, I only posted that bit on the M
120 Mason: Can someone explain the logic of putting the A343 on the DUS-MIA route and the A333 on the FRA-SEA route. This seems a bit strange, given the range is
121 Leskova: Just a wild guess - they're stationing A340-300s at DUS, but no A330-300s... don't know why they're basing A340s instead of A330s there, but that's t
122 Blrsea: Leskova, can you please share the schedule information? The first post says when LH leaves FRA. When does it arrive in SEA and when does it leave SEA
123 Leskova: As strange as it sounds - that information was not included in the eMails I got, at least as far as I remember. I left my notebook at the office sinc
124 Bakersdozen: So that's awesome, the 2nd city in Canada that LH will fly to will be Calgary. Will be a nice change option from flying the AC 333 to FRA... AND I can
125 LHPDX: Nothing been loaded in the system yet about the new Seattle flight.......Now even an announcement on Lufthansa web page...............
126 JoFMO: You can already see LH in YYZ, YUL and YVR.
127 EVA777SEA: The Port of Seattle is announcing a major new international service monday, any guesses?
128 Bakersdozen: Oh, I remember someone saying they only flew on their own metal to YYZ. I thought everything else was code shared.
129 Gunsontheroof: Sounds like LH is coming to town! Good times!
130 JoFMO: That is definitely wrong! The only Canadian codeshare destinations they don't fly themselves is YYC so far.
131 Jamincan: I think it is simply that every other destination (except YYZ) has either AC to FRA and LH to MUC or the other way around, with the other airline cod
132 FlyingSikh: Having LH fly into Calgary would be great since at the moment I have to connect through YVR which is a pain when you live in Alberta
133 EVA777SEA: Well clearly it is a problem that has nothing to do with loads bringing revenue down. They had a 95%ish load factor in September. 14,018 pax/60 fligh
134 LHPDX: Oh those people in Seattle must be sooooooooooooo excited! Maybe now the constant complaints about "PDX cheating Seattle of what rightfully belong to
135 Sebring: Why do you connect in YVR when there is already a YYC-FRA flight on which LH codeshares?
136 Super80DFW: SEA doesn't ALREADY have LH. Wow! Thats good then.
137 United777: This is great news for Seattle!!!! I flew LH to India for a trip and but had to take a quick flight down to Portland for my connecton to PDX-FRA. Not
138 Iaddca: AF reported recently that its new CDG-SEA service was seeing better loads than expected. SEA has been underserved to Europe, but that's changing quick
139 Gunsontheroof: I went back and read the Tacoma News Tribune article/interview from just after that service was announced (http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/business/sto
140 RwSEA: I haven't seen too many posts like that. Dude, you have some serious anti-Seattle issues that you need to resolve. I think PDX is sitting pretty righ
141 MAH4546: Yields on SAS' Seattle flight have tanked in the past few years. At the same time, it should be noted that all of SAS' long-haul routes, including Ne
142 Gunsontheroof: Say again? I can't recall anyone ever saying that. PDX won the LH route over SEA a few years back fair and square. That's what spurred the Port of Se
143 RwSEA: Well, the rumors in the local press are getting stronger for SEA-FRA, although they're being fueled by a.net http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/storie
144 FLYYUL: Now official... loaded on amadeus.. YYC & SEA-FRA
145 Iluv747400: LH 490 FRA: 10:05 AM SEA: 11:20 AM LH 491 SEA: 2:30 PM FRA: 9:25 AM +1 --- LH 494 FRA: 11:10 AM YYC: 12:50 PM LH 495 YYC: 2:45 PM FRA: 7:55 AM +1
146 Superdawg: According to Global News in Calgary there will be an official announcement today of new intl. airline service to Calgary. We all know what airline tha
147 Dolphinflyer: Too bad it's not SEA-MUC. That would a provided a) a nice complement to LH's existing MUC-West Coast gateways (LAX and SFO), b) would not have been as
148 Blrsea: Cool! There are lots of Indians working in software companies in the puget sound region. LH, with its connections to major cities in India will be a w
149 Gunsontheroof: I've heard this mentioned often enough in Lufthansa/Seattle threads of the past to make me wonder: is there any precedent for Lufthansa entering a ma
150 Leskova: Isn't the CLT flight MUC only? Though that's probably primarily a BMW-flight...
151 RwSEA: Plus US flies CLT-FRA, so there's already a star alliance connection.
152 LHPDX: Well congratulation Seattle! It's good to see more international choices added to the Pacific Northwest..........Either way you look at it, passenger
153 B752OS: How much does MUC-CLT rely on the BMW connection to sustain the flight? Or is it the Star Alliance connection that makes it work? As it has been ment
154 Cpharris5514: I highly doubt it. There is a large Scandinavian population in Seattle, especially in the Ballard District, and SK has flown into SEA for years (I'm
155 Gunsontheroof: I think so. Forgot about that one. Port of Seattle sez: http://www.portseattle.org/news/press/2007/11_05_2007_86.shtml The page is messed up right no
156 ER757: The page is working OK now. Good to see this official now. Another A330 to SEA, we're getting quite the collection of Airbus widebodies these days (s
157 MAH4546: Extremely, extremely unlikely. Air France's 777s are in a 3-class configuration for high-yield business markets.
158 RwSEA: As mentioned its unlikely due to the fact that the premium demand might not be there. Additionally, SEA is adding new service at a rapid pace and I t
159 Gunsontheroof: Is BA going 14x a week this summer? I thought it was staying at 10x year-round...
160 United777: This will no doubt be one of the most popular US-India routes. SEA already has British Airways, Air France and Northwest/KLM who have a good number fl
161 B752OS: Having a large local community does not translate into huge demand between the two countries for air travel. If such was the case BOS would have 6-7
162 Gunsontheroof: Because India is churning out highly-trained IT workers that promptly get hired on at IT companies based in the Seattle area. He's not kidding about
163 MAH4546: There is no question they will be hurt, and yields will suffer, even though filling the planes should be no problem. Though my prediction is that one
164 ScarletHarlot: Service starts March 30, 2008 - happy birthday to me! I'll be spending my birthday at SEA watching for the LH plane to come in. We went to SEA when AF
165 Airnerd: Two thoughts about the choice of the 333 for this great new route: 1. As others have expressed, I'm a little surprised they think the 333 can handle t
166 Alexinwa: LH website shows range for the 333 at 6200nm. More than plenty for SEA-FRA at 5108nm!! I'm so excited about this service......I just hope that the win
167 B752OS: I doubt that will happen now that LH is on FRA-SEA.
168 Viscount724: Airbus shows 333 range as 5650 nm. And if not mistaken, manufacturer range figures normally only consider passengers and baggage, without cargo, and
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