AI will use a 773ER on this sector; BOM-JFK is on 772LR. This is enough time to advertise, and load up the flights in the system; hope they do a better job than BOM-JFK flight.
I wonder if they will keep the current DEL-LHR-JFK flight once the non-stop DEL-JFK starts.
Iluv747400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 368 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5406 times:
Those Heathrow slots could be put to better use for additional frequencies to India (or sold to the highest bidder).
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7342 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5401 times:
Since Air India sells very low fares on the JFK to LHR part of the route they would use the slots for India to UK flights only. Those are in such high demand they could fill 5 or 6 daily 777 or 744's to India from LHR.
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5408 times:
Quoting Iluv747400 (Reply 1): Those Heathrow slots could be put to better use for additional frequencies to India (or sold to the highest bidder).
The daily DEL-LHR-JFK originates from ATQ 4x week; perhaps it will become ATQ-LHR-JFK on those days and the other 3 days it could fly from AMD or BLR.
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5380 times:
AI should look at starting BOM-ORD non-stop next on a 773ER--ORD has a large Indian population originating from BOM.
Mk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5111 times:
I hope this one works for them, i think they need to look beyond the NY region, like to ORD (as LAXDESI suggests) and to IAD, AI is really stuck to the NY region, they really need to expand elsewhere. And their BOM-JFK non-stop should be a lesson learned.
Anyhow, i won't be a pessimist, good luck to AI on another non-stop
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4439 posts, RR: 43 Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5054 times:
Quoting PNQIAD (Reply 6): A DEL-IAD would make Mk777 very happy
it would make many ppl happy and it is a more feasible option than un-neccessarily adding more flights to the NYC market.
DEL-IAD with a B 77L or even B 773ER would no nicely as AI is going to join Star Alliance and IAD is a big Star hub for UAL especially so easy onward connections to Florida, Texas, Arizona and other East Coast cities will be provided via IAD on UA or US Airways!
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8737 posts, RR: 52 Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4784 times:
Quoting Iluv747400 (Reply 1): Those Heathrow slots could be put to better use for additional frequencies to India (or sold to the highest bidder).
Is AI allowed to increase flights? I'm not sure how the UK-India bilateral works. Could the extra slots be used for India service, or are they limited to a certain number of flights from specific destinations like the UK carriers are?
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LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4685 times:
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 10): Is AI allowed to increase flights? I'm not sure how the UK-India bilateral works. Could the extra slots be used for India service, or are they limited to a certain number of flights from specific destinations like the UK carriers are?
I believe Indian carriers are not fully utilising their LHR allotments; therefore AI could utilise LHR-JFK slots for LHR-India routes.
BoeingBoy From Bouvet Island, joined Jul 2007, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4643 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13): Air India has more important markets to cover in North American expansion - like San Francisco and Vancouver - before Seattle.
AI is going nowhere - the west coast is not really that interested in them.
BandA From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 336 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4602 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13): Quoting BandA (Reply 12):
Is it true that AI is also planning on launching DEL-SEA or BOM-SEA soon?
Air India has more important markets to cover in North American expansion - like San Francisco and Vancouver - before Seattle.
[Edited 2007-10-25 17:25:23]
I think my question was whether or not if AI was going to launch DEL-SEA or BOM-SEA... and not an implication that SEA was more important of a market than SFO and YVR... but thanks for the input!
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Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4568 times:
Quoting BoeingBoy (Reply 14): Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Air India has more important markets to cover in North American expansion - like San Francisco and Vancouver - before Seattle.
AI is going nowhere - the west coast is not really that interested in them.
Yes - you see anyone jumping up and down about it. AI has an inferior product to what other carriers offer.
Most of the clientele would rather go BA via LHR.
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4502 times:
AI better firm up its choice of alliance and hub in Europe for its one-stop flights to North America. All one-stop NA flights should go through a single hub--say Vienna, or Munich.
This would mean giving up routes like LHR-JFK and CDG-EWR, and offering more terminator flights to additional European cities from India.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4482 times:
Quoting BoeingBoy (Reply 18): Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 17):
...anything to back that claim up?
Yes - you see anyone jumping up and down about it. AI has an inferior product to what other carriers offer.
Most of the clientele would rather go BA via LHR.
..your personal comments mean nothing......AI's new B772LR's and B773ER's have just as good as a product as the aforementioned carriers...including seats and services...
Mk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4433 times:
I agree with Jacobin777.
In fact, whenever an Indian carrier starts a service to IAD, i will be the 1st one to book my tickets to DEL. It would be fun starting my vacation as soon as i enter the aircraft, it will feel so much closer to home my
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4400 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 20): your personal comments mean nothing......AI's new B772LR's and B773ER's have just as good as a product as the aforementioned carriers...including seats and services...
Seats yes. Service will take many years to catch up. My wife refuses to fly AI--too many awful experiences related to service, delays and equipment failure.
I hope AI has put their best crew on the non-stops to provide decent service. Equipment failure and delays should be minimal given use of new aircrafts. I for one will continue to look at AI as a possible option.
Has anyone flown on the BOM-JFK non-stop flight? If yes, please share your experience.
BoeingBoy From Bouvet Island, joined Jul 2007, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4336 times:
[quote=Jacobin777,reply=20]..your personal comments mean nothing......AI's new B772LR's and B773ER's have just as good as a product as the aforementioned carriers...including seats and services...[/quote
The aformentioned carriers don't have a Curry smell stuck toilets and passengers who feign ignorance of the English Language.
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4311 times:
Quoting BoeingBoy (Reply 23): The aformentioned carriers don't have a Curry smell stuck toilets and passengers who feign ignorance of the English Language.
The tone of your post smells.
What you call curry smell is aroma to many of us--people of Indian origin and non-Indians too.
Stuck/unclean toilets are a different matter altogether. There are many of Indian origin--especially seniors--who do not speak english, including my mom.
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4277 times:
Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 19): AI better firm up its choice of alliance and hub in Europe for its one-stop flights to North America. All one-stop NA flights should go through a single hub--say Vienna, or Munich.
This would mean giving up routes like LHR-JFK and CDG-EWR, and offering more terminator flights to additional European cities from India.
Uh... why?
25 LAXDESI: AI may not be able to fill these routes once they have non-stops to JFK, especially LHR-JFK. CDG-EWR may still be viable. Jet's strategy of a single
26 Karan69: Hopefully they utilise the aircrafts properly and not as pathetically as the BOM-JFK flight---keeping 3 aircrafts for a route which requires 2 is rid
27 BigTom: And why should the passengers know the English language? I don't see that as a requirement to fly? Cheers
28 Desh: Nope - BA via LHR is a pain in the posterior due to the visa requirements, which are laughable. Its just too much hassle, $ and condescension from th
29 ConcordeBoy: ...which is little more than rampant speculation on your part, and thusfar unsupported by any tangible corroboration.
30 Karan69: Look like the prayers of PNQIAD and Mk77 will be answered soon enough http://www.business-standard.com/com...page_c.php?leftnm=10&autono=302421 Jet Ai
31 Mk777: When 9W formally announces BRU-IAD route, then i and PNQIAD will be excited, right PNQIAD?? ANyway, atleast they are taking baby steps toward launchi
32 PNQIAD: Absolutely - any non/1-stop from IAD to BOM on any Indian carrier and I will be using that for my next India trip....
33 LAXDESI: Rampant speculation!! Just google, and you will find many articles where AI CEO talks about setting up an European hub--Vienna and Munich were mentio
34 Dallasnewark: Neither do your personal comments. Service on AI is marginal at best, as it has always been. Let's not compare them to BA. We can take a public poll
35 Behramjee: One fails to understand the fixation that not only Air India has but also other North American carriers too have with the NYC-India market. There is n
36 Gr8Circle: Unlikely that AI could distinguish any of their crew as 'the best lot' and put them on prestigious routes....the unions would be up in arms.... You'r
37 Jacobin777: .....the burden of proof lies on the one who's making vacuous assumptions and allegations...of which were made by nothing more than personal opinions
38 LAXDESI: AI's NYC and BOM/DEL fixation should end in due course with mounting losses, and loss of monopoly on Gulf routes which it uses to subsidise other rou
39 Mk777: Who does route planning for AI, he or she needs to be fired...hehehehe!! I mean there are a lot of routes where the LR's can be used, aren't they gett
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