Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10225 posts, RR: 62 Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4218 times:
AA at one time flew up to 19 MD11s. They original had orders + options on up to about 50 aircraft, but stopped at 15 once they got the planes and were unhappy with the performance.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38592 posts, RR: 79 Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4148 times:
Quoting SRT75 (Thread starter): I would love to experience the "new and improved" version.
I see you live in Los Angeles.
During low season, KLM uses their MD-11 here to San Francisco.
Fly up here to SFO and fly KLM to visit Amsterdam and I am sure you'd have a wonderful time in Amsterdam once you get there.
As of right now, we get the 747-400 as you already get year around in Los Angeles.
777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5281 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4137 times:
Others were:
JAL
Korean Air
China Eastern
EVA ???
Malaysia Airlines
Garuda
Thai
Air Namibia
Martinair - still flying some Combi
Swiss International
Alitalia
LTU
World Airways
American
Seabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 4290 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4069 times:
TAM and World also still fly scheduled service with the MD-11. (World operates SonAir's Houston-Luanda Express.)
My one MD-11 experience was LAX-HEL-LAX on Finnair in 1991, shortly after the type's introduction into service.
Beautiful birds, and the takeoff performance is astonishing, but they were obsolete the second the 777-200ER came into service. It has better payload capacity, fuel efficiency, and range. The A340-300, although it lacks the ultimate payload capacity of the MD-11, is also more efficient on many missions.
Most gorgeous aircraft: Tu-204-300, 757-200, A330-200, 777-200LR, 787-8
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5704 posts, RR: 29 Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4004 times:
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2765 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3943 times:
Quoting Falstaff (Reply 10): I thought World still flew the MD-11
They do and did a fly-by at the Great Georgia Air Show 2 weeks ago...
OceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3864 times:
Quoting 777way (Reply 11): Quoting SK601 (Reply 7):all MP pax flights are with B767 (and until 31 Oct. A320). MP MD11s are used for cargo only.
Their website says they operate combis.
Unlike AZ, these are no MD-11s Combi but Convertible Freighter. These four are now since about two years operated for cargo only. Here they are. Even PH-MCP obviously carry cargo.
Halophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 623 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3755 times:
Don't forget US-Africa Airways operating IAD-JNB via SID... I think!
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2102 posts, RR: 6 Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3284 times:
Citybird was one of the last to order new MD-11 pax aircraft in '95 and '96. It's too bad they could not order enough to keep the line going before going bankrupt themselves. Also, SN used them for a few years in the late 90's although they may have been leased from H2, I forget. LY leased an -ER from WO to fly the TEL-LAX route, one of the longer MD-11 pax routes flown.
Quoting SRT75 (Thread starter): I would love to experience the "new and improved" version.
As Superfly said, since you are near SFO, flying KL would be a great choice. I am planning JFK-HEL on AY before they are replaced on this route.
Quoting SK601 (Reply 7): Kl will continue to fly the MD11 with pax until apr. 2012
First to leave the fleet in 2012, the last in 2015.
Quoting Seabosdca (Reply 8): they were obsolete the second the 777-200ER came into service. It has better payload capacity, fuel efficiency, and range.
True, but the payload difference is marginal. Hence the success as a freighter.
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 12): They do and did a fly-by at the Great Georgia Air Show 2 weeks ago...
This classic livery is much better, is it permanent? Thanks for sharing.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21679 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3262 times:
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 18): Also, SN used them for a few years in the late 90's although they may have been leased from H2, I forget.
Yes the MD-11s in Sabena livery were CityBird aircraft. I think they had CityBird pilots and SN cabin crews. I recall a couple of very nice flights in business class on those aircraft BRU-YUL.
Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 3): I think that LH only ever used them for cargo.
Correct. The MD-11F is the only type in LH Cargo's fleet if not mistaken. I think they have 19.
OceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2575 times:
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 18): Citybird was one of the last to order new MD-11 pax aircraft in '95 and '96. It's too bad they could not order enough to keep the line going before going bankrupt themselves.
In 1997 or 1998, H2 intended to order two MD-11Fs, that could have been used to replace the Gemini DC-10s flying for SR, but in the end, in 1999, H2 took the two white tail A300C4-605R ordered by KU but never delivered and stored at TLS since 1995-1996.
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 18): Also, SN used them for a few years in the late 90's although they may have been leased from H2, I forget.
These two were delivered new in SN colors back in April 1998 (OO-CTS) and month later (OO-CTC) and remained with SN until the abrupt end of the contract in February 2001. At first they were used on flights to YUL, GRU, EWR, JNB and NBO, but later all this changed and one aircraft used to JNB, while the other operated the BRU-BKO-CKY-BRU route. OO-CTS was a PW-powered MD-11 while OO-CTC had GE engines....
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19): The MD-11F is the only type in LH Cargo's fleet if not mistaken. I think they have 19.
Indeed, 14 new (including the last 8 MD-11 produced), and 5 second hand MD-11 PAX converted to freighter.
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16598 posts, RR: 11 Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2493 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19): The MD-11F is the only type in LH Cargo's fleet if not mistaken. I think they have 19.
Correct, LH has 19 MD11F.
I would love to get on a MD-11. Hopefully I will do it before KL retire their MD-11s.
When will the last MD-11 in AY´s colour fly?? Is it in 2011???
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16598 posts, RR: 11 Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2410 times:
Here is a list with all Airlines that operates the MD-11
26 FlagshipAZ: B747Forever...great list you provided on Reply 23. But I'm wondering if you can account for 4 missing MD-11s. Your list totals 191 airframes when I kn
27 Andaman: The first AY's MD11 will go 2008, the last one March? 2010. My MD-11 flights, all on AY: 3x HEL-BKK return 1x HEL-STN return, in 1990s AY used MD11 f
28 OceansWorld: Three are now stored in Italy and intended to be converted to freighter for Aeroflot Cargo, including the one that has had a landing incident last at
29 FlagshipAZ: Thanks OceansWorld. I can always count on you for such fleet numbers and info. Regards
30 B747forever: It is 4 that are stored in Italy as OceansWorld says. It was a total of 200 build MD-11s and 191 is still active.
31 OceansWorld: I don't think so. Well UPS doesn't use 34 MD-11Fs at the moment. 30 are active indeed, three are stored at ROS before the freighter conversion as wel
32 B747forever: They are there at the moment, right ???
33 OceansWorld: Yes they are in Italy, but what I meant in my not clear enough answer was that only three are in Italy, not four.
34 AGRflyer: I flew LAX-ZRH on SR back in 1998 as well as ZRH - ORD in 2001 shortly before they went bust. I also had flights with MD11 of AY on the route HEL-BKK-
36 RoseFlyer: I think the MD11 will be removed from passenger service way faster than the 747SP was. The main reason is that it is in high demand as a freighter. S
37 Vald: The Aer lingus bird, was a World Airways aircraft & only flew for a summer. Its was one of the nicest colour schemes on a MD11 though
38 OceansWorld: So ? Over the years at least ten airlines have used MD-11P leased from World Airways. N272WA has flown for EI during the summers of 1998, 1999, 2000
39 BSBIsland: MD-11s used to be so popular in Brazil with Varig and Vasp (and now TAM) flying them. I have flown many domestic flights on MD-11s through the years w
40 TrijetsRMissed: That's kind of odd, what was the reason? By then it was well known the PW powered airframes were more fuel efficient.
41 OceansWorld: Yes indeed, and PT-MSJ of JJ is perhaps unique in its kind, as it has only been operated by Brazilian airlines to date. VASP, VARIG and now TAM. I do
42 CV990: Hi! I flew once in the MD11 and the way I flew makes me one of the most luckiest guy in this earth!!! After flying many other airplanes when I finally
44 Lexy: I love that livery. Thanks for the quality pics!
45 Finnaviation: And these two great birds will fly about two years more for Finnair and then it is time to say good bye... ex OO-CTB as OH-LGF ex OO-CTC as OH-LGE (l
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