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User currently offlineLrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 610 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10071 times:

OK it was friday and I was off an youtubing but,that does not even seem possible. He must of built up some speed during the flyby or something, seem just a scosh risky. Sorry if it has already been posted!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_vJliayH6co

Enjoy. BTW . . . what do you think?


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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10068 times:

There are a few reasons for this.

First, that was a "clean" flyby, so it was going very fast with all flaps retracted. Secondly, it isn't full of passengers and baggage (as far as I know), and since it isn't going anywhere long haul the fuel load is probably also relatively low. So, the plane was fast, light, and at a low altitude. This, along with the fact that it's a 757 in the first place, means that it has amazing climb power in this video.

However, I don't believe it actually got vertical. The 757 is relatively long and people tend to think a plane is steeper than it really is. I'd say that maybe it gets up to a max of 50 degrees pitch up, although someone with a better trained eye can maybe clarify that.

Now after talking about it, I think I'm gonna go try it in flight sim...  Smile


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11648 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9999 times:

Somebody forgot to tell the Air Force that 757's are not F-14s! Flippin' amazing video, sure is a great aircraft.  Smile


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User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9877 times:

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 1):

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It would be very difficult to determine what angle the aircraft is at from that angle and without a ground reference. That, coupled with the 757's climb ability and presumably light load (as AlexPorter mentioned), makes the aircraft appear vertical.



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User currently offlineMycrj17 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9799 times:

Quoting Lrdc9 (Thread starter):
OK it was friday and I was off an youtubing but,that does not even seem possible. He must of built up some speed during the flyby or something, seem just a scosh risky. Sorry if it has already been posted!

Yes it has been posted, many of time's. But it is still great to look at....
And that 757 belongs to the New Zealand AirForce..


Matt



GO CUBS GO!!!!!
User currently offlineADent From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1380 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9697 times:

With up to 87k LB of thrust and an empty weight in the 130k lb range, should be capable of some pretty impressive climbs in a military/airshow mode.

Anybody know which engines are on this bird?


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9685 times:

Quoting ADent (Reply 5):
Anybody know which engines are on this bird?

The good ones, RR for the win! Big grin


You'd be amazed what jet transport aircraft can do when put through their paces.


User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2696 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9623 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):
Air Force that 757's are not F-14s! Flippin' amazing video, sure is a great aircraft

I think the Rolls-Royce RB211-535's powering that beast are equally as amazing  yes  !

Regards, JetMech



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User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2434 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9306 times:

Detailed info here.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...ew+zealand+air+force+757#ID3157106



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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9296 times:

Hi!

Excelent video, excelent pilot and excelent display....merit to those that deserve it!!!
Regards


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30923 posts, RR: 87
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9259 times:
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In 1991 while on the observation deck at NRT I saw a 757 pull a serious climb of 45 degrees or better (I was almost perpendicular to her so it wasn't an optical illusion like that YouTube video).

User currently offlineBucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9171 times:

love that video. Love the sound of the engines. I would guess 50-60 nose up right at the end.

User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3509 posts, RR: 66
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8800 times:

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 3):
It would be very difficult to determine what angle the aircraft is at from that angle and without a ground reference. That, coupled with the 757's climb ability and presumably light load (as AlexPorter mentioned), makes the aircraft appear vertical.

Agree, but I have looped the airplane in a simulator. It does the maneuver quite handily (at light weight of course).



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User currently offlineCaljn From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8509 times:

Love the 757 ! So unfortunate manufacture has ceased...

User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8391 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):
Somebody forgot to tell the Air Force that 757's are not F-14s!

Perhaps Helen Clark should have indeed....  cheerful 


User currently onlineMD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6483 times:

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 1):
However, I don't believe it actually got vertical. The 757 is relatively long and people tend to think a plane is steeper than it really is. I'd say that maybe it gets up to a max of 50 degrees pitch up, although someone with a better trained eye can maybe clarify that.

I know it's hard to really tell for sure without a ground reference, but man, that 757 looks like it's darn near vertical or at least well over 50 degrees up. Look at that thing go!  biggrin 

I've been on an AA 757 taking off out of Long Beach, also a Delta 757 climbing out FLL and while they were nothing like that video, these were the closest I've ever been to being in a fighter jet. Both got off the runway fast and put a lot of distance between them and the ground quite quickly.

Cheers, Ralph



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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6323 times:

Very cool video!

Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 6):
You'd be amazed what jet transport aircraft can do when put through their paces.

Very true. In the CRJ sim (with the motion turned off of course), I've done all sorts of stuff..... snap rolls, loops, inverted flight, hammerheads, supersonic dives, etc. If very obvious when doing most of this stuff that the airplane was definitely not designed for it, but its capable.

When empty, at max thrust, the CRJ-200 has a thrust / weight ratio greater than some early jet fighters (ie: F-86), and is on-par with a fully loaded F-4 Phantom in afterburner. Its really quite impressive.


User currently offlineTango29 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5935 times:

Quoting JetMech (Reply 7):
I think the Rolls-Royce RB211-535's powering that beast are equally as amazing !

Awesome aircraft, i had an amazing departure out of LHR this week on a 30% full BA 757, i think it was the
most rapid climb i have ever experienced in a passenger aircraft.



Quoting Caljn (Reply 13):
Love the 757 ! So unfortunate manufacture has ceased...

A real pity, Boeing bring it back!!!



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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5678 times:

The camera zoom gives it that flat look which makes the angle look steeper than it really is. Just like on some photos from GA and military jets looking aft & down at the runway which appears almost right below the plane making the take off seem like it was almost straight up.

That's around 45 degrees which is still pretty high. This video is also old, saw it several years ago.

Now picture yourself in the toilet at 45 degree angle.


User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4290 times:

The 757 has a really distinctive sound, kind of like a rough chopping noise. Anyone know why?


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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5423 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2298 times:

You have to like this shot:

http://www.airframes.net/misc/CO757_9188.jpg



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineZTagged From Niger, joined Oct 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2174 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 20):
You have to like this shot:

http://www.airframes.net/misc/CO757_...8.jpg

I think I need a change of pants..  eyepopping 
That is pretty damn amazing, and just goes to show how powerful the fiddy-se'n really is.



Something awful.
User currently offlineBorat From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2071 times:

This onelooks pretty darn vertical to me.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fYZOByowrlU


User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1739 times:

Quoting ZTagged (Reply 21):
Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 20):
You have to like this shot:

http://www.airframes.net/misc/CO757_...8.jpg

I think I need a change of pants..
That is pretty damn amazing, and just goes to show how powerful the fiddy-se'n really is.

That's BFI and the 757 is empty.


User currently offlineClimb1 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1588 times:

Such an awesome video. The sounds of the engines at full pelt is just unreal. I remember seeing this perform at RIAT2003 and from what I remember it was one of the best displays there by far.
Its incredible looking at these videos just thinking that the B757s are commercial airliners, yet the RNZAF fly them as if they are something out of the Red Bull Air Race!!!  Big grin

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 18):
Now picture yourself in the toilet at 45 degree angle.


 rotfl   rotfl  Brilliant!



In my eyes the Boeing 747 will ALWAYS be the queen of the skies!
User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5423 posts, RR: 7
Reply 25, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

Quoting Visityyj (Reply 23):
That's BFI and the 757 is empty.

I believe the take off in the photo was part of the test program for the 757 winglet mod.



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
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