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A380 And The Triple Jetways  
User currently offlineStealth777 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 372 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 11205 times:

Just wondering how many of the A380 airports have the triple jetways installed for the aircraft. SFO has one set installed currently and should have a total of 4 installed, 2 on the G side and 2 on the A side. Here is a picture I took when the aircraft was doing its ground testing at SFO (sorry about the poor non-airliners.net quality, sun was not in the ideal position for me). I may be wrong in this but I believe SFO is currently the only airport in the US with the triple jetway system.

-stealth

p.s. Let me know what you think of the picture. Thanks.




[Edited 2007-10-27 10:58:18]

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User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2424 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 11111 times:

I'm not sure of other airports, but here is another configuration.

http://www.tkaps.com/nextgenerationpic.htm



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User currently offlineMestrugo From Chile, joined Apr 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 10939 times:

Let's just hope that the airport authorities have at least the common sense to make a line for every jetway instead of making a HUGE line and then sort people depending on their seat. It may sound silly, but I see it coming. :b

User currently onlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7403 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 10880 times:

CDG has 6 parking stands designed for the A380 with a triple jetways at the brand new satellite S3, opened last June.

User currently offlineSpeedbird2263 From Jamaica, joined Jul 2006, 470 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 10737 times:

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 1):

I find the first schematic interesting, Im not quite sure if that set up would be more efficient than the current M1,M2 & U2 arrangement though, it may very well offer the same level of efficiency for a somewhat more expensive design. If I remember correctly, JXB has planned to install at least triple Jet-bridges at all its A380 gates.

With the seemingly "unlimited" cash flow it'd would be nice to see them incorporate the quad-Jet bridge design. I saw it in an airport planning document relating to the A380, its basically the current triple design being used incorporating an over-wing bridge as well as in the schematic shown by PC12Fan .

[Edited 2007-10-27 14:49:59]


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User currently offlineFlyboeingjets From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 10646 times:

Nice picture. I don't think any airports right now besides SFO in the US have triples. Only in the past few years have we even seen the return of duals at some of the newer US airport terminals.

Some of the old JFK IAB gates had triples, but the thing is, I don't think I ever saw a picture where all three jetways were being utilized. It was always just one or two in use. On a 747, it would have been the L1 L2 & L4 doors....L4 being accessed by an OTW bridge much like what AMS has.


User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 10632 times:

That is a good picture. I used to think it was something to see two jetways used. On a side note, they should make Airplane III using the A380  Big grin


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 10632 times:

Nice photo but it would be nice if the jetways were glass like in TLS . Those really are nice bridges.

User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 10577 times:

Do the A380s have to have specialized baggage claim areas built? I cannot imagine standing in a "normal" claim in LAX or JFK, etc. with all of those people.
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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 10541 times:

Quad would be ridiculous. Triple is overkill already. But 2 jetways are perfectly fine if they are designed so the second lifts higher and goes to the upper deck on the A380, or lowers to be the "2 door" jetway for single decker planes.

Certain airlines/airports will of course use the 3rd to segregate pax into a "premium boarding area" where they need not mingle with the rif-raf in Y.

But considering it doesn't take that long to board a 450 seat QF 743 from ONE jetway (since it has a wide door and two aisles, and boarding at 2L means many pax turn L), the need for 3 jetways for an A380 with 475 seats is greatly exaggerated, and I think over time you'll see airports install only 2 to save money, with the 2nd being of the type that can raise to the upper deck. Boarding will be via L2L and U1L.



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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 10525 times:

That photo in the link is of the jetbridges on stand 342 at LHR T3 !!. I remember just after they came into service, I raised the one nearest the camera up as high as it would go. It was amusing seeing the look on the 747 Capt's face as he taxied onto stand and I was at the same height he was !!. They were so used to looking down onto the jetbridges that it had taken him by surprise !!.

All the A380 gates at LHR have the standard 2 jet bridges.

 Smile



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User currently offlineFlexo From St. Helena, joined Mar 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 10514 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 9):
Certain airlines/airports will of course use the 3rd to segregate pax into a "premium boarding area" where they need not mingle with the rif-raf in Y.

I think that is exactly what happened in the scenario pictured by the OP. The first jetbridge seems to serve that "premium passenger" purpose. For fast turnarounds jetbridges 101C and 101A are way too close together.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 10444 times:

Quoting Flexo (Reply 11):
I think that is exactly what happened in the scenario pictured by the OP. The first jetbridge seems to serve that "premium passenger" purpose.

I think it's planned in the new DXB airport that there will be a whole terminal floor devoted to the premium pax. Basically a giant lounge or set of lounges. The premium jetway would be attached to this floor directly, with the other two jetways attached to the main "rif raf" floor.

But for practical purposes, it's just not necassary to have 3. 2 is plenty. Many airports board 777s and A330/340s with 1 jetway. So if you think of the main deck of the A380 as 77W and the upper as an A340-200, 2 jetways should be plenty, right?



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User currently offlineCaspritz78 From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 10382 times:

Don't forget if the jetbridges' layout is somehow smart that you can handle at least tow 737, 320 or similar at the gate. Remember that from CDG where two AF 737 used the same gate. Left jetbridge was to DUS (if I remember right) and right bridge was to FRA.

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7991 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 10271 times:

I believe that SFO will probably get a second triple jetbridge gate (most likely on the Concourse G side) some time in 2008. They only need one for now given that it will service the Singapore Airlines A380's once they starting using the plane on the SQ 001/002 route (SIN to SFO via HKG).

User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 10236 times:

Quoting Stealth777 (Thread starter):
p.s. Let me know what you think of the picture. Thanks.

Thanks for the picture. Gives a great perspective.



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User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 806 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 10165 times:

I thought there was a picture at Sydney with tripple jetways. Is in the database somewhere.

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9629 times:

What about overwing jetways at e.g. AMS? Could those be used for deboarding of A380s, if they were to come to AMS on a regular basis? Or can AMS's jetways only be used for 747s?

User currently offlineHSV From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9551 times:

Quoting Mestrugo (Reply 2):
Let's just hope that the airport authorities have at least the common sense to make a line for every jetway instead of making a HUGE line and then sort people depending on their seat.

In Singapore for the first commercial flight there was only 1 queue... and then there was a sign where the jetways split to indicate whether that particular jetway led to the main deck or the upper deck.

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 8):
Do the A380s have to have specialized baggage claim areas built?

On arrival into Sydney, bags for Suites, Business and priority passengers came out on carousel 4 while the bags for everyone else came out on carousel 3. So basically, nothing special has been built for the A380... they just use 2 carousels instead.


User currently offlineWingedMigrator From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2212 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9492 times:

Cool pic.

Quoting Speedbird2263 (Reply 4):
I find the first schematic interesting, Im not quite sure if that set up would be more efficient than the current M1,M2 & U2 arrangement

The schematics are also interesting because they show the older configuration of the A380, when it was still supposed to have a door at the front of the upper deck. That door was deleted from the A388 to save weight, but will be featured on the A389 (if built).


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 9004 times:
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Quoting Stealth777 (Thread starter):
p.s. Let me know what you think of the picture. Thanks.

Great photo, Stealth777. Will you be placing it in the data base here on A.net?

Does anyone know if the 388 gates @ LAX will be dual bridges or will they do it with three? It was hard for me to tell when I flew in last week from ORD as I just saw the steel frame.

LACA773


User currently offlineSpeedbird2263 From Jamaica, joined Jul 2006, 470 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 8789 times:

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 19):

Good observation Wink It certainly didnt click to me that the schematic was showing more doors on the Upperdeck than there should be. I agree that that door would most definately be added on the A389 if and when its built. Although Ikramerica pointed out earlier that a quad jet-way system would be rather unnecessary, I'll admit that it would be quite something to see in operation, if i recall from the planning document I had read sometime ago, the configuration would most likely be M1L, M4L, U1L and U3L.



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User currently offlineGBan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 8673 times:

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 8):
Do the A380s have to have specialized baggage claim areas built? I cannot imagine standing in a "normal" claim in LAX or JFK, etc. with all of those people.



Quoting HSV (Reply 18):
On arrival into Sydney, bags for Suites, Business and priority passengers came out on carousel 4 while the bags for everyone else came out on carousel 3. So basically, nothing special has been built for the A380... they just use 2 carousels instead.

Now that's a boring solution, isn't it?  Wink


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 8646 times:

Quoting GBan (Reply 22):
Now that's a boring solution, isn't it?

They do the same at LAX for the 744s. At least in my experience.

Of course my bag didn't come out at all. They told me after I waited the whole time that it was on a different flight...



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week ago) and read 7530 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 12):
The premium jetway would be attached to this floor directly, with the other two jetways attached to the main "rif raf" floor.

That is really only supportable if all premium seats are located on the second floor. Otherwise, boarding the upstairs Business section is done most efficiently from door 1 and up the staircase.

NS


25 BA0284 : Out of interest, which gates on the A side at SFO will have the triple airbridge configuration? If BA use the A380 to SFO, the BA terraces lounge is c
26 RayChuang : BA0284, I think only the gates at the very end of Concourse A at SFO will get the triple jet bridges, because they were designed with the 80 x 80 mete
27 Ikramerica : Actually, we are talking about jetway "A" here, the one that attaches to door 1L. This door has access to the grand staircase which brings you up to
28 Stealth777 : From what I have heard it would be at the very end, identical to the layout on the G side. When I go back to work next week I'll check and see how th
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