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Can This Be The End For The Dash8 Serie?  
User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

After SAS move to not operate the Q400s after the accident in CPH on the 27th Oct, I wonder if this can be the end for the Dash8serie???

it has been many problem with the Q400s for example ANAs Q400 had a problem, in South Korea something similar has happened in August and for a few weeks ago in MUC we has seen problem with the Q400.

Can this really be the end for the Q400s????


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User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1324 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3539 times:

I doubt it. Many airlines are still ordering the aircraft. (Bombardier must have loved last week.) Some (F9) are extremly anxious to put it into service. The problems mentioned are all isolated affairs. The problems at SAS: I question whether or not we can blame the aircraft quite yet, perhaps maintainence should be looked at.


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User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

People asked the same type of question after the 737 rudder problems which in comparison had more serious consequences at the time. I think this one will sort itself out as well.


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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

Overreacting again, are we? I see Q400s from QX and F9 everyday in BIL. Every crew member, every QX agent, and every GQ pilot I've talked to about the Q400 loves 'em. They say it's a safe, reliable aircraft.

User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

Your kidding right?

Also the Q400 isn't the only member of the DASH-8 family, ya know  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1208 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3275 times:

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 3):
Every crew member, every QX agent, and every GQ pilot I've talked to about the Q400 loves 'em. They say it's a safe, reliable aircraft.

If you ask them today I doubt they say that...

I do not think think is the end for the Q400, I just think Bombardier needs to shape up and address the problems rather than trying to wipe them away without action like they have done with SAS and others many times.



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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3259 times:

Nope, but their resale value will go down, this isn´t AN-10.
BTW I saw that some Q400s been converted to firefighters.

[Edited 2007-10-28 11:35:51]

User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3170 times:

Quoting Navigator (Reply 5):
If you ask them today I doubt they say that...

- of course, they will. That is what their experience tells them. They would definitely first ask, what the hell were those (SK maintenance) guys doing to have all these troubles.


User currently offlineMultimark From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3092 times:

Quoting B747forever (Thread starter):
After SAS move to not operate the Q400s after the accident in CPH on the 27th Oct, I wonder if this can be the end for the Dash8serie???

Hardly, an aircraft family which has been in operation since 1984 with a good safety record will not be sunk by a few recent incidents, which have not even been proven to be a fault of the a/c vs. the operator.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3045 times:

Quoting Multimark (Reply 8):
Hardly, an aircraft family which has been in operation since 1984 with a good safety record will not be sunk by a few recent incidents, which have not even been proven to be a fault of the a/c vs. the operator.

Exactly - look at it's record, across the 4 major types and subtypes there have been only 40-50 fatalities since it began operating over 20 years ago. Now, consider that this aircraft isn't one which always operates from large and well placed airports, and you'll see that it's a very good figure indeed.

There are definately issues with the landing gear, but most incidents for the entire series have been because of a landing gear malfunction, so really I don't think it's anything new - perhaps just a fault exasperated by the combination of a larger airframe and reaching a certain number of cycles.


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User currently offlineMultimark From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3019 times:

I forgot to add, this incident doesn't seem to have receieved much media attention in North America. So damage to teh Q's reputation may be limited to Western Europe. Even so, maybe BBD should scrap the Q400 designation and officially return to calling the series the Dash-8.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21531 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2961 times:

Quoting Multimark (Reply 10):
I forgot to add, this incident doesn't seem to have receieved much media attention in North America.

If you call daily news reports about flight cancelations and the grounding of 1/2 the fleet here not much attention, I'd agree. We heard about it, we just didn't over do the hysteria (for once).

But in reality, the SAS move is an overreaction based on media hype, not a deathknell for the type throughout the world. Most other airlines/countries will be more sensible.

If the early fatal DC10 accidents didn't spell the end for the type, not sure how non-fatal accidents will prematurely end this type's life. I can see the SAS fleet being taken up rather quickly by another airline...



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