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Pax Tries To Open Door On AA Flight  
User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 11394 times:

Cnn is reportaing late Saturday night a pax tired to open an emergency exit door on a flight from Orlando to Dallas.
The plane diverted to Houston.. The Pax was not susccuesful

Well ge i guess he wasnt


i can see for 80 miles
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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 11401 times:

Quoting JetJeanes (Thread starter):
Pax Tries To Open Door On AA Flight

AA's service isn't that bad, is it?



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 11391 times:

I don't understand why they divert planes when this happens. There is no way to open the door in flight so she didn't do anything that endangered the flight, so just subdue and restrain the lady and continue on.

Although a few pax got lucky and got of at IAH, since that was their final destination anyway...



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17065 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 11387 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 1):
Pax Tries To Open Door On AA Flight

AA's service isn't that bad, is it?

OMG that is sooo funny

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

God help me, Can stop to laugh.



However good that no one got hurt.



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 11330 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 1):
AA's service isn't that bad, is it?

One too many packets of those vile pretzels ! I can sympathise...


User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2104 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 11321 times:

Why did the cabin crew feel it was necessary to stop her? Why not just let her try. She obviously was not liking the flight, and I don't blame her. Pulling on cabin doors is good therapy. I have a cabin door at home which I pull on when I am aggravated.


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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4552 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 11227 times:

Bill Maher said it best "Don't be gentle with him. Ass kicking is whats called for" Big grin


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User currently offlineHBJZA From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 11219 times:

Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 5):
Why did the cabin crew feel it was necessary to stop her? Why not just let her try. She obviously was not liking the flight, and I don't blame her. Pulling on cabin doors is good therapy. I have a cabin door at home which I pull on when I am aggravated.

I think that if a person feels the need to open a door in flight, her/his behaviour must be quite aggressive. So if the crew decided to divert it is probably because this person was out of her/his nerve and beeing very annoying for other passengers. Just my thinking though.


User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 11196 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 3):
However good that no one got hurt.

I'm glad you're being sympathetic, but there was absolutely no chance of anyone getting hurt in this situation. It is physically impossible to open an exit during flight.



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User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 11188 times:

I guess it panics passengers if they see someone trying to open the door and not every passenger will know that its inpossible. Even passengers that do know might still feel uncomfortable by the whole situation.


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17065 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 11157 times:

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 8):
It is physically impossible to open an exit during flight.

I know that, but that pax could hurt other passengers. Therefore I say good that no one got hurt.



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User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 11050 times:

Did anyone explain to the passenger that the restroom isnt THAT door, it's the OTHER door??  Smile

User currently offlineType-Rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4992 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 10556 times:

Since the plane diverted to IAH, the story was on the news tonight.
It appears that the woman was screaming "I don't want to die!" and all hysterical. The F/A's put the handcuffs on her and diverted. They removed her from the aircraft at IAH. The news stated that it wasn't known for sure if she would be charged with anything at all until the investigation is completed. The story hinted that she may have been afraid of flying.



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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 10496 times:

Why throw her off the airplane? All she needed was a hug.

User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 10477 times:
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This is when the FAs need to improvise and quickly convert the AED into a taser!


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User currently offlineSh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10175 times:

She sounds confused and maybe had mental problems.Maybe altitude and the stress of flying pushed her over the edge. Diverting does seem a bit of an over reaction, but maybe thats SOP in that situation. I've been on many planes and I've never seen anyone freak out like that; thankfully its a rare occurrence.

[Edited 2007-10-29 06:23:43]

User currently offlineOgre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10127 times:

Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 12):
The F/A's put the handcuffs

I didn't know FAs had handcuffs. Is it standard? does it vary depending on the airline?



Sigh
User currently offlineLucianflyboy From St. Lucia, joined Jun 2005, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10097 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 1):
AA's service isn't that bad, is it?

LOL! The prezels took her over the edge! The poor sap is probably locked up in a padded cell. Fear of flying is a very real thing. People catastrophise (quoting my shrink here) and they lose touch with reality. I've had a couple of mid air roller coaster rides and done the 'panic seat grab', then realise, eh, this is not helping!

Quoting RP TPA (Reply 11):
Did anyone explain to the passenger that the restroom isnt THAT door, it's the OTHER door??



Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 13):
Why throw her off the airplane? All she needed was a hug.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

OMG! That's horrible but still funny! I was in my normal Monday morning fog and I've laughed and feel great!

Thanks guys!


User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10024 times:

Personally i would not feel comfortable with someone pulling on a door at 20,000 feet even though i know it wont open
but there are always what ifs... I remember when you could smoke seeing smoke go under the emergency door..
and some make whistleing noise or just get frost on the bottom,,, that doesnt make me feel to well..

I would probably have had to reach over and twist her neck.. Im just leary about someone messing with a plane in the air.. Big grin  Big grin



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User currently offlineDLD9S From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9988 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 4):
One too many packets of those vile pretzels ! I can sympathise...

The pretzels are gone... AA now charges for anything that you might consider food in coach, like $3 potato chips. They even take credit cards right at your seat. Most of the cabin crew seem as excited to see a credit card as they are when someone pulls out a $100 bill.

Maybe this disturbed pax was looking for "something special in the air" not realizing that concept has been gone for a very long time.



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User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9952 times:

Quoting Ogre727 (Reply 16):
didn't know FAs had handcuffs. Is it standard? does it vary depending on the airline?

It all depends on what the FA and pilots have planned during their layover.


User currently offlineOgre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9919 times:

Quoting RP TPA (Reply 21):
It all depends on what the FA and pilots have planned during their layover.

So you're saying they could have also used whips, poppers and such to subdue this passenger?



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User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9875 times:

Quoting Ogre727 (Reply 22):
So you're saying they could have also used whips, poppers and such to subdue this passenger?

Well, if their layover was in NYC or SFO then it's a good possibility that the FA's might have had those items onhand.


User currently offlineNZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9809 times:

Quoting RP TPA (Reply 22):
Quoting Ogre727 (Reply 22):
So you're saying they could have also used whips, poppers and such to subdue this passenger?

Well, if their layover was in NYC or SFO then it's a good possibility that the FA's might have had those items onhand.

LOL!
Actually, I think it depends on the country.
I can't speak for the US but there have been media reports here in NZ of people being handcuffed on board aeroplanes for being disruptive, and then being met by the police at the destination airport.
F/As are allowed to use any reasonable means in their power to subdue unruly passengers and keep the cabin safe for other people.



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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5222 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9763 times:

On the one hand, it is virtually impossible to open a door, whether a cabin door or emergency exit over the wing, of an aircraft while the cabin is pressurized.

On the other hand, if someone feels the need to try opening a door while airborne, that person may pose a hazard to other passengers and crew.

In today's world, airlines aren't about to restrain passengers and proceed to the destination. They will divert a flight to remove a passenger that has posed a threat.


25 Beagleboys : Open a doors while in flight is never a big problem... im an f/a and i tried that on b737 (whit pilot supervision) and nothig happen! you can easly mo
26 KELPkid : If I had to make a guess, the FA's probably tried to stop her first, and ordered her to sit down, hands off of the emergency exit. If she didn't comp
27 GeorgiaAME : MAYBE had mental problems??? This sounds diagnostic to me. Have you been reading the posts on this web site? Sounds like 3/4 of everyone flying has m
28 Varigb707 : LOL It sure is. AA is the worst. I loathe that airline. I (still) have a pending bad experience with them and the way it is being handled, it will ne
29 KELPkid : I'll bet it's a safe bet that, at the very minimum, she gets blacklisted by AA and will never be able to board an AA plane again...
30 Ogre727 : Sounds a little harsh coming from a physician... don't take it wrong, I agree with you.
31 Contrails : I guess at some point the airlines will have to arm the FA's with some tranquilizers. I'm glad nobody was hurt, and I hope the offending passenger get
32 Twal1011727 : Superman himself could not open the door. All he would do is either break the handle off or bend/break the door mechanism KD
33 Post contains links Mauiman31 : Another passenger sitting next to her got kicked off in Houston also and had to drive home. Local Dallas CBS TV reported. http://cbs11tv.com/topstorie
34 Post contains images NWADC9 : They're these: Good enough to hold a nut until the cops come on board.
35 Bloodyrascal : I agree by far the worst. I could understand the guy but what was going through his head making the situation worse? tsk tsk tsk. Isnt DFW closer tha
36 Type-Rated : This came from a passengers description to the news media of what happened onboard. She said they were clear plastic handcuffs. Could very well have
37 Bohlman : There's about 1700 lbs of pressure on the door at altitude. The problem isn't that a person will succeed (though people have been known to do extraor
38 Hmmmm... : The door can not be opened at any altitude. Even on the ground, the plane is positively pressurized a bit that prevents the door from opening. Perhap
39 Jetdeltamsy : Because you have a nutcase in an airplane. Rocket science.
40 Post contains images Starlionblue : Indeed. Fair enough. But that's what the PA system is for. All it takes is for the Captain to say it is impossible to open the doors in flight due to
41 WNCrew : No, the cabin is not pressurized on the ground (though some of you may bring up the AA A300 incident)...but once a plane is on the ground ALL exits h
42 Starlionblue : That's pretty much the way it works. Outflow valves deal with it. There are of course special cases for high altitude airports.
43 NEMA : I was aware of this simply from what i,d read but it leads me to ponder another question. I thought the emergency exits and doors could not be opened
44 Post contains images ZTagged : You all need to start doing stand-up. I'm laughing my ass off! Could it be she went insane, or just felt like a rapid de-pressurization?
45 Type-Rated : The doors are actually a little larger than the opening. If you notice the doors tilt a little when they are opened. This is so they can clear the op
46 Bohlman : Nothing can fully prevent anything if you apply enough force. It's a simple math equation. Take the pressure differential between the inside and the
47 Sh0rtybr0wn : Numerous? Ive never heard of it. Do you have some examples? Any recent injuries?
48 Starlionblue : As mentioned, newer emergency exits are not plug type. They do have safeguards against opening at altitude though. True, but a plug type door at 30k
49 NEMA : Interesting answers guys, and thanks. Can you offer a conclusion here in your own belief therefore, or maybe theres an official one that someone migh
50 Post contains links SABE : What a nutcase... Here's the ground track for the flight in question http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...5/history/20071027/2253Z/KMCO/KIAH Can any
51 Starlionblue : No. The only danger is that of brown trouser moments for the pax.
52 Post contains links Bohlman : Agreed. Even disregarding the safeguards, the depressurization valves on the doors operate at a slower speed than the aircrafts outflow valves, and a
53 JBLUA320 : I don't have the specifics, but not that long ago I believe an AA flight attendant was killed when opening a pressurized A300 door. JBLU
54 Bohlman : I guess I forgot to mention that they actually talk about this and other incidents in the article I linked.
55 JBLUA320 : Sorry, didn't have time to read the article, so I was just recalling from memory.
56 Post contains images Bohlman : 56 replies now, I can understand you not clicking on an obscure link in one of them You remember correctly though.
57 Neuroticdave : Priceless, I love it!
58 HAWK21M : It never stops,does it. regds MEL
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