Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21973 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12355 times:
I don't understand why they divert planes when this happens. There is no way to open the door in flight so she didn't do anything that endangered the flight, so just subdue and restrain the lady and continue on.
Although a few pax got lucky and got of at IAH, since that was their final destination anyway...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Hmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12285 times:
Why did the cabin crew feel it was necessary to stop her? Why not just let her try. She obviously was not liking the flight, and I don't blame her. Pulling on cabin doors is good therapy. I have a cabin door at home which I pull on when I am aggravated.
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HBJZA From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12183 times:
Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 5): Why did the cabin crew feel it was necessary to stop her? Why not just let her try. She obviously was not liking the flight, and I don't blame her. Pulling on cabin doors is good therapy. I have a cabin door at home which I pull on when I am aggravated.
I think that if a person feels the need to open a door in flight, her/his behaviour must be quite aggressive. So if the crew decided to divert it is probably because this person was out of her/his nerve and beeing very annoying for other passengers. Just my thinking though.
BMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 863 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 12152 times:
I guess it panics passengers if they see someone trying to open the door and not every passenger will know that its inpossible. Even passengers that do know might still feel uncomfortable by the whole situation.
Type-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11520 times:
Since the plane diverted to IAH, the story was on the news tonight.
It appears that the woman was screaming "I don't want to die!" and all hysterical. The F/A's put the handcuffs on her and diverted. They removed her from the aircraft at IAH. The news stated that it wasn't known for sure if she would be charged with anything at all until the investigation is completed. The story hinted that she may have been afraid of flying.
Sh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11139 times:
She sounds confused and maybe had mental problems.Maybe altitude and the stress of flying pushed her over the edge. Diverting does seem a bit of an over reaction, but maybe thats SOP in that situation. I've been on many planes and I've never seen anyone freak out like that; thankfully its a rare occurrence.
LOL! The prezels took her over the edge! The poor sap is probably locked up in a padded cell. Fear of flying is a very real thing. People catastrophise (quoting my shrink here) and they lose touch with reality. I've had a couple of mid air roller coaster rides and done the 'panic seat grab', then realise, eh, this is not helping!
Quoting RP TPA (Reply 11): Did anyone explain to the passenger that the restroom isnt THAT door, it's the OTHER door??
JetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1445 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10988 times:
Personally i would not feel comfortable with someone pulling on a door at 20,000 feet even though i know it wont open
but there are always what ifs... I remember when you could smoke seeing smoke go under the emergency door..
and some make whistleing noise or just get frost on the bottom,,, that doesnt make me feel to well..
I would probably have had to reach over and twist her neck.. Im just leary about someone messing with a plane in the air..
DLD9S From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10952 times:
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 4): One too many packets of those vile pretzels ! I can sympathise...
The pretzels are gone... AA now charges for anything that you might consider food in coach, like $3 potato chips. They even take credit cards right at your seat. Most of the cabin crew seem as excited to see a credit card as they are when someone pulls out a $100 bill.
Maybe this disturbed pax was looking for "something special in the air" not realizing that concept has been gone for a very long time.
NZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10773 times:
Quoting RP TPA (Reply 22): Quoting Ogre727 (Reply 22):
So you're saying they could have also used whips, poppers and such to subdue this passenger?
Well, if their layover was in NYC or SFO then it's a good possibility that the FA's might have had those items onhand.
Actually, I think it depends on the country.
I can't speak for the US but there have been media reports here in NZ of people being handcuffed on board aeroplanes for being disruptive, and then being met by the police at the destination airport.
F/As are allowed to use any reasonable means in their power to subdue unruly passengers and keep the cabin safe for other people.
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