Rw From Netherlands, joined Dec 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1066 times:
I have the impression that the A330 has sold more and more in the last years compared to the beginning of the program. Any ideas why? I think one reason was development of the A330-200. But this is a "shrink" which usually doesn´t sell very well, due to operating wheights. Do the airlines invest in this airplane hoping that there will be further developments (A330-300X / A330-400)? I think so, but I also think these would be a strong competitor to the A340-200/-300. On the other hand I don´t believe Airbus will build the A330-500. Any thoughts?
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1027 times:
I agree that the A330 will be a strong competitor to the CFM56-5 powered A340-200/300. The A330 will have the same power with just two GE CF6, P&W 4000 or RR Trent 700 series engines vs. four CFM56-5s on the A340-200/300.
Johnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 985 times:
i don´t think airbus will develop any longhaul variant of the a-330 with the size of or even larger than the a-330-300. such an aircraft would compete against it´s a-340s and that doesn´t make much sense in my eyes. but who knows.
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Airbus_a340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1563 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 987 times:
The A340 and A330 are not made to compete each other are they? I dont think so. A340 specifically for long haul and A330 specifically for short and medium haul. Thats what it says here in this cathay pacific book.
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Gearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 979 times:
yes it does seem that the A330 is doing very well now as compared to when it first saw service. A possible reason for this is that it has proven to be an exceptional performer. Take Aer Lingus for example: When the 3 B747-100's were nearing the end of their economical lifetime and a replacement was needed, the best option open to Aer Lingus was a lease on A330-300 which as far as I remember were available right away and fitted in with their planned retirement of EI-ASI, -ASJ & -BED. Aer lingus's profitability took off with the introduction of the A330 and allowed them to open several major new destinations. I know other economic factors contributed to this but Aer Lingus were never able to achieve this with the B747 (That being said, the B747 gave them many years of exceptional service). Aer Lingus played a major role in the A330 gaining 180 minutes ETOPS approval. They also opened up a US West coast destination with the -200 model (LAX and I believe they are considering others), a first for them. So all in all, the A330 has proven to be an outstanding aircraft for them and I would say that other carriers are finding the same thing. Opinion: It is easily the most beautiful looking passenger airliner in existance!
Gerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 946 times:
A first boost to the A330 program was for sure the A330-200 with the longer range and exceptional economics. The further developments of the A330-300, which led to a longer range thanks to more MTOW was a second boost, above all in the last two years. Remember, that the first A330-300 had a MTOW of 217t while now the A330-300 is offered in a 233t version and apparently will be offered even in a 240t version.
Perhaps, one day the A330-300 will replace the A340-300, leaving the (ultra) long range high capacity market to the A340-500/600. But this would need more development costs (new wing, engines, ...) and would be a break in Airbus' strategy, according to which, twins are good for routes up to 5500nm and quads more economical on routes longer than 5500nm.
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BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (14 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 933 times:
Ever since the launch of the Boeing 777X Family, Airbus is planning on developing an A330 that would be able to meet the range as the 777X (10,000NM). Off-course, nothing has been said. But as we all know, Boeing and Airbus CONSTANTLY compete with each other. If Boeing comes out with an improved aircraft, Airbus will develop and aircraft to compete with it. That is why Boeing developed the 737NG, to compete better with the A320, and to take some of its orders.
You just gotta love competition, or else we wouldn't have all these great aircraft like the A380!
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