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Airliners At U.S. Airshows?  
User currently offlineAdam42185 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 416 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4690 times:

I was wondering: Are any air shows in the U.S. in which airliners participate in fly-bys and such?
I always see pictures of airliners doing low passes and fly-bys at air shows in other countries, but I cant think of any from the U.S., and of the several air shows I have been to I have never seen an airliner as one of the planes displayed. Is it the case that either there isn't as much interest in commercial airliners in the U.S., are there other regulations why it may not be permitted, or not in certain areas, or is it just chance that I have never seen an airliner as part of an air show in the U.S.?

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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5428 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter):
Is it the case that either there isn't as much interest in commercial airliners in the U.S., are there other regulations why it may not be permitted, or not in certain areas, or is it just chance that I have never seen an airliner as part of an air show in the U.S.?

Well, I think you'll find it's because the airshows you are seeing these airliners doing fly-bys at, are predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft and such ... not a pure public airshow. Examples such as Farnborough, Paris, and Dubai, do not really have a comparable equivalent in the USA. You'll see Boeing or Airbus doing fly-by's in the USA, if they think they'll sell one by doing it.


Jimbo



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User currently offlineGift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4654 times:

Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter):
and of the several air shows I have been to I have never seen an airliner as one of the planes displayed.

The closest I've seen, is a Fedex 727 open for the public to walk through...as a display...never a fly-by though, nor an airliner, non-cargo on display.

-Tony@PVD



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User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4648 times:

Last weekend American Eagle had an ERJ-145 on static display at the Fort Worth Alliance Airshow, and they were letting people into the cockpit. It was very cool to see kids eyes lighting up as they sat in the flight deck!

I remember the REALLY old days when I was a kid, seeing Republic MD80's and United 727's buzzing airshows. As a kid, I longed to be in the cockpit of one of those jetliners much more than a fighter jet, and it was a thrill to see!



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

World Airways, Delta, and ASA have been doing stuff at the Great Georgia Air Show down @ FFC for a number of years now.


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I heard that WO did a flyby of FFC at this year's Great Georgia Air Show with their retro-liveried MD-11.


User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1696 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4604 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 3):
Last weekend American Eagle had an ERJ-145 on static display at the Fort Worth Alliance Airshow

I walked through it and asked the pilot how a normal day is. I also asked how long the flight from DFW to AFW was, he said 4 minutes at 297 kts. That was cool. American had a 767 scheduled, but it never showed up. There was a FedEx A300 open to walk through also.



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User currently offlineATA1011Tristar From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

There was a Midwest Connect 328 Jet at EAA's yearly airshow in Oshkosh, Wisconsin a few years back. I grabbed a picture before it departed.

328 Jet

A couple of years before that, also at EAA, there was an Air Atlanta Icelandic 747-300 parked on display at the Aero Shell Square. That was the first and only time I have ever been inside a widebody aircraft. My God, that thing was so huge, inside and out. It was just row after row of seats, and then the upstairs too! The spiral stair case was very cool. My family and I were able to walk underneath the wing and behold the size of the engines! Shnikees! Here is a picture that I did not take. I found it at the EAA website; it shows the plane at EAA.

747-300

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 3):
It was very cool to see kids eyes lighting up as they sat in the flight deck!

You might actually be remembering me when I poked my head in the 747's cockpit! Big grin

And then the Concorde that crashed in Paris was on its way to JFK and then EAA.

Can anyone confirm that NW brought a CRJ to EAA one year?


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9666 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

The US doesn't have a single huge airshow to attract the airlines and large jets. Airshows in the United States usually attract the public. The number one performer is usually the US military because they go after the general public to recruit.

You will see civilian planes at airshows. Stunt pilots enjoy flying their planes at shows and showing them off. Also FedEx is a common participant of airshows. I've been to multiple shows where they had a 727 Freighter on display.



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User currently offlineAdam42185 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 1):
are predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft and such ... not a pure public airshow

this makes a lot of sense to me as a reason, kind of a "duh" moment. thanks for the insight. Now if we could just get a big sales based air show in the U.S..... but it definitely makes sense why they would put on the display when sales are on the line and not when they're just public because of how expensive it is. I need to get to one of those air shows across the pond.


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3392 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4574 times:

Well, at the Air & Sea Show in Ft. Lauderdale, AA usually sends one of their aircraft to do a fly-by. I've seen 777s and 757s.

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4528 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 4):

I heard that WO did a flyby of FFC at this year's Great Georgia Air Show with their retro-liveried MD-11.

And what a beauty she is.

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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 11, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4487 times:

Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter):
I was wondering: Are any air shows in the U.S. in which airliners participate in fly-bys and such?

Canadian did a fly-by with a 747-400 at the Abbotsford Airshow years ago...that's not the U.S. but it's darn close.

Tom.


User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

AA did a flyby with a 757-200 in formation with a DC-3 at this year's Chicago Air & Water show just before the show started...

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4395 times:

It does happen from time to time, but airliners don't make money sitting on the ground fir a static display or doing fly-by's... they loose money... lots of money and airlines hate to loose money


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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4373 times:

I was lucky enough to be in a UA 727-200 fly by when UA pulled out of LAN in April of 86. I was on the last UA
out of town. We took off toward the west on 28L, circled and the pilot annouced what was to happen. We flew a runway heading on runway 24 at apx 500 feet....its was a night flight at apx 9pm....bound for ORD.
safe



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User currently offlinePITops From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

Wings Over Pittsburgh usually has a FedEx A300 or A310 come in for a static display. You can walk inside and see the cargo areas and the flight deck. That's about it.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4368 times:

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 11):
Canadian did a fly-by with a 747-400 at the Abbotsford Airshow years ago...that's not the U.S. but it's darn close.

And a DC-10-30 one year.


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CP Air and Wardair also made a few appearances at the Abbotsford Airshow, also Pacific Western if memory correct.


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User currently offlineReady5bird From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter):
and of the several air shows I have been to I have never seen an airliner as one of the planes displayed.

A nice surprise fly by of a former airliner, John Travolta's Boeing 707-138C N707JT at the 2006 Reno Air Races.



[Edited 2007-10-29 18:59:50]


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

Quoting Ready5bird (Reply 17):
A nice surprise fly by of a former airliner, John Travolta's Boeing 707-138C N707JT at the 2006 Reno Air Races.

Minor correction -- 707-138B. Only the 707-320 had a C model, designating the combi or freighter version with main-deck cargo door.


User currently offlineReady5bird From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4271 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
Minor correction -- 707-138B. Only the 707-320 had a C model, designating the combi or freighter version with main-deck cargo door.

Thanks Viscount724...learn something new everyday.



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User currently offlineUPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (6 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4194 times:

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User currently offlineFlymad From South Africa, joined Jun 2006, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4139 times:

It's a pity you guys don't get to see events like this!

PS I hope the links to the thumbnails work - first time I'm doing it!


User currently offlineFlymad From South Africa, joined Jun 2006, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

Quoting Flymad (Reply 21):
It's a pity you guys don't get to see events like this!

PS I hope the links to the thumbnails work - first time I'm doing it!

Apologies gentlemen & ladies - lets try again

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User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

Northwest Orient flew a Boeing 747 at the 1986 Oshkosh, WI Airshow.



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (6 years 12 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3974 times:
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Quoting Bond007 (Reply 1):
the airshows you are seeing these airliners doing fly-bys at, are predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft

Not entirely true....



Quite fitting that this is the same 742 which is now parked at Rand, which is where this airshow was.



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25 Post contains images Bond007 : Well, they are 'predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft'. I didn't say the only reason Jimbo
26 GoCOgo : At the BKL Labor Day weekend show, CO normally sends a 738 as a static display. You can do a walk though, sit in the cockpit, they open up the engine
27 DeltaRules : Delta brought N610DL (Pink plane) to the Dayton Air Show this year. There have also been FX 727s the last 3 years at least.
28 Nucsh : FedEx usually brings something to Oceana every year - It was a 727 last time I went.
29 Jeremy : A UA 737-500 did a fly-by at the 1994 Reno Air Races. Pretty cool!
30 CosmicCruiser : As a rule they bring whatever is in the city serviced by fedex. They may have to ferry it over to the airshow arpt but that's about it. They did do a
31 BlueElephant : I remember watching on TV on ESPN about the FLL show, and distinctly remember seeing an SAA 747....That was around the time that they were serving FL
32 Andz : If by "is that it?" you mean the only thing that SAA has done then no, ask anyone who was at Farnborough a couple of years ago (744), or at the rugby
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