Adam42185 From United States, joined Dec 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1947 times:
I was wondering: Are any air shows in the U.S. in which airliners participate in fly-bys and such?
I always see pictures of airliners doing low passes and fly-bys at air shows in other countries, but I cant think of any from the U.S., and of the several air shows I have been to I have never seen an airliner as one of the planes displayed. Is it the case that either there isn't as much interest in commercial airliners in the U.S., are there other regulations why it may not be permitted, or not in certain areas, or is it just chance that I have never seen an airliner as part of an air show in the U.S.?
Bond007 From United States, joined Mar 2005, 4459 posts, RR: 9 Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1933 times:
Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter): Is it the case that either there isn't as much interest in commercial airliners in the U.S., are there other regulations why it may not be permitted, or not in certain areas, or is it just chance that I have never seen an airliner as part of an air show in the U.S.?
Well, I think you'll find it's because the airshows you are seeing these airliners doing fly-bys at, are predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft and such ... not a pure public airshow. Examples such as Farnborough, Paris, and Dubai, do not really have a comparable equivalent in the USA. You'll see Boeing or Airbus doing fly-by's in the USA, if they think they'll sell one by doing it.
Jimbo
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Gift4tbone From United States, joined Dec 2004, 574 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1911 times:
Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter): and of the several air shows I have been to I have never seen an airliner as one of the planes displayed.
The closest I've seen, is a Fedex 727 open for the public to walk through...as a display...never a fly-by though, nor an airliner, non-cargo on display.
AndrewUber From United States, joined Jul 2003, 2361 posts, RR: 53 Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1905 times:
Last weekend American Eagle had an ERJ-145 on static display at the Fort Worth Alliance Airshow, and they were letting people into the cockpit. It was very cool to see kids eyes lighting up as they sat in the flight deck!
I remember the REALLY old days when I was a kid, seeing Republic MD80's and United 727's buzzing airshows. As a kid, I longed to be in the cockpit of one of those jetliners much more than a fighter jet, and it was a thrill to see!
Super80DFW From United States, joined Oct 2007, 1123 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1861 times:
Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 3): Last weekend American Eagle had an ERJ-145 on static display at the Fort Worth Alliance Airshow
I walked through it and asked the pilot how a normal day is. I also asked how long the flight from DFW to AFW was, he said 4 minutes at 297 kts. That was cool. American had a 767 scheduled, but it never showed up. There was a FedEx A300 open to walk through also.
Next flights: DFW-IAH-MSP-ORD-DFW [CO/AA] (735, ER4, 738, 772 in J seat), DFW-LBB-DFW [AA] (CR7, ER4)
A couple of years before that, also at EAA, there was an Air Atlanta Icelandic 747-300 parked on display at the Aero Shell Square. That was the first and only time I have ever been inside a widebody aircraft. My God, that thing was so huge, inside and out. It was just row after row of seats, and then the upstairs too! The spiral stair case was very cool. My family and I were able to walk underneath the wing and behold the size of the engines! Shnikees! Here is a picture that I did not take. I found it at the EAA website; it shows the plane at EAA.
RoseFlyer From United States, joined Feb 2004, 5517 posts, RR: 24 Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1848 times:
The US doesn't have a single huge airshow to attract the airlines and large jets. Airshows in the United States usually attract the public. The number one performer is usually the US military because they go after the general public to recruit.
You will see civilian planes at airshows. Stunt pilots enjoy flying their planes at shows and showing them off. Also FedEx is a common participant of airshows. I've been to multiple shows where they had a 727 Freighter on display.
Adam42185 From United States, joined Dec 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1839 times:
Quoting Bond007 (Reply 1): are predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft and such ... not a pure public airshow
this makes a lot of sense to me as a reason, kind of a "duh" moment. thanks for the insight. Now if we could just get a big sales based air show in the U.S..... but it definitely makes sense why they would put on the display when sales are on the line and not when they're just public because of how expensive it is. I need to get to one of those air shows across the pond.
EMBQA From United States, joined Oct 2003, 8116 posts, RR: 16 Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1652 times:
It does happen from time to time, but airliners don't make money sitting on the ground fir a static display or doing fly-by's... they loose money... lots of money and airlines hate to loose money
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
Isitsafenow From United States, joined Feb 2004, 4004 posts, RR: 28 Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1630 times:
I was lucky enough to be in a UA 727-200 fly by when UA pulled out of LAN in April of 86. I was on the last UA
out of town. We took off toward the west on 28L, circled and the pilot annouced what was to happen. We flew a runway heading on runway 24 at apx 500 feet....its was a night flight at apx 9pm....bound for ORD.
safe
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PITops From United States, joined May 2007, 1121 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1628 times:
Wings Over Pittsburgh usually has a FedEx A300 or A310 come in for a static display. You can walk inside and see the cargo areas and the flight deck. That's about it.
Ready5bird From United States, joined Oct 2007, 46 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1528 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18): Minor correction -- 707-138B. Only the 707-320 had a C model, designating the combi or freighter version with main-deck cargo door.
Thanks Viscount724...learn something new everyday.
HVAC...High Velocity Air Craft, oh well, one can dream.
Well, they are 'predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft'. I didn't say the only reason
Jimbo
I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
26 GoCOgo: At the BKL Labor Day weekend show, CO normally sends a 738 as a static display. You can do a walk though, sit in the cockpit, they open up the engine
27 DeltaRules: Delta brought N610DL (Pink plane) to the Dayton Air Show this year. There have also been FX 727s the last 3 years at least.
28 Nucsh: FedEx usually brings something to Oceana every year - It was a 727 last time I went.
29 Jeremy: A UA 737-500 did a fly-by at the 1994 Reno Air Races. Pretty cool!
30 CosmicCruiser: As a rule they bring whatever is in the city serviced by fedex. They may have to ferry it over to the airshow arpt but that's about it. They did do a
31 BlueElephant: I remember watching on TV on ESPN about the FLL show, and distinctly remember seeing an SAA 747....That was around the time that they were serving FL
32 Andz: If by "is that it?" you mean the only thing that SAA has done then no, ask anyone who was at Farnborough a couple of years ago (744), or at the rugby
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