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Jet To Fly To LAX And IAD In Feb. 2008  
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6983 times:

Jet to connect LAX, and IAD via Brussels in Feb. 2008. Not clear as to the origin points in India for these flights. As BLR will not be ready until April 2008, I suspect HYD, AMD, and ATQ will be competing for these two origin points.

If everything goes as planned, then by Feb.2008 Jet will connect five Indian cities to five NA cities via BRU--this will provide a total of 25 one-stop city pairs between India and NA.

Quotes:
Jet Airways plans to fly to Brussels, its European hub, from five more cities — Calcutta, Hyderabad, Ahmedabad, Amrtisar and Bangalore.

Once the bilateral aviation treaty between Belgium and India is reviewed, we can double the number to 56 and include more cities. Jet has launched flights to Toronto and New York via Brussels. In the US, there are also direct flights to Newark, which is in New Jersey, from Mumbai.

Goyal said Jet planned to fly to three more US cities from February. The flights are to San Francisco, Los Angeles and Washington DC.The airline recently announced flights to Shanghai from Mumbai.

http://avindia.blogspot.com/

[Edited 2007-10-31 13:02:38]

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User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6911 times:

I guess thats good for PNQIAD and myself who would have another option to fly to India from IAD. We shall just have to wait for the formal announcements, time, date and equipment.

I guess they could do HYD-BRU-LAX and CCU-BRU-IAD and if they can get more slots, start AMD-BRU-ORD, BLR-BRU-YVR, ATQ-BRU-IAH.

This would be good additions, according to me, to their BOM-BRU-EWR, DEL-BRU-JFK, MAA-BRU-YYZ and the soon to be BOM-PVG-SFO sectors.

Can't wait to see 9W at IAD.



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6810 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
As BLR will not be ready until April 2008, I suspect HYD, AMD, and ATQ will be competing for these two origin points.

I just realised that the new airport at HYD will not be ready until April 2008. This leaves AMD, ATQ, and CCU in running for the two origin points. IMO, AMD has the strongest case, and CCU the weakest.

Smart move by Jet in not going for ORD first as there exists competition from AA and AI, and instead opting for LAX and IAD which are clearly underserved markets.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6793 times:

This is really great for BRU and Jet Airways.

Hope it will work well.

Will this be the first flight between BRU and LAX non-stop.



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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6781 times:

So Jet will add SFO, IAD, and LAX in the same month? Good for them. I like the growth, though I'd like to see an eventual BRU flight for SFO, perhaps to compliment the PVG flight.

User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7622 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6767 times:

Score one for the home team!!! Cant wait to travel from LAX-BRU with them!

There is one thing that confuses me, why is the SFO flight routed through PVG when the rest are through BRU? Wouldnt it make more sense to have the SFO flight through BRU too since BRU will have a larger bank to connect from? I know its 45 minutes further, but its still confusing.

Also will 9W have a FF relationship with any of the American Carriers?



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User currently offlineTravellin'man From United States of America, joined May 2001, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6767 times:

Any chances of them routing more West Coast US flights through a city in the East (China, Korea, Japan)? I can see the point of consolidating traffic through one hub in BRU, but I would guess there is room for more one-stops through East Asia between India and the West Coast?


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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6747 times:

Quoting Travellin'man (Reply 6):
Any chances of them routing more West Coast US flights through a city in the East (China, Korea, Japan)? I can see the point of consolidating traffic through one hub in BRU, but I would guess there is room for more one-stops through East Asia between India and the West Coast?

I'd guess LAX might see one eventually, just as I guess SFO will probably see one eventually via Europe.
Only time will tell.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6734 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 4):
So Jet will add SFO, IAD, and LAX in the same month? Good for them. I like the growth, though I'd like to see an eventual BRU flight for SFO, perhaps to compliment the PVG flight.



Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 5):
There is one thing that confuses me, why is the SFO flight routed through PVG when the rest are through BRU? Wouldnt it make more sense to have the SFO flight through BRU too since BRU will have a larger bank to connect from? I know its 45 minutes further, but its still confusing.

I think in due course, SFO will have a second flight via BRU. Jet's decision to offer BOM-PVG-SFO may have more to do with cornering the limited unused rights available between India-China.


User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6474 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 8):
I think in due course, SFO will have a second flight via BRU. Jet's decision to offer BOM-PVG-SFO may have more to do with cornering the limited unused rights available between India-China.

It makes sense. Plus, it can capture some of the local traffic in the huge PVG-SFO market as well.

I'd like to see a BRU flight though.


User currently offlinePNQIAD From India, joined May 2006, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6398 times:

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 1):

Excellent news...... If I had not booked tix for my Dec. trip - I would have been quite tempted to postpone the journey a bit  Smile

It's also a shame 9W beats AI in starting untapped US destination with a lot of potential for an Indian carrier.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25372 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6350 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 9):
Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 8):
I think in due course, SFO will have a second flight via BRU. Jet's decision to offer BOM-PVG-SFO may have more to do with cornering the limited unused rights available between India-China.

It makes sense. Plus, it can capture some of the local traffic in the huge PVG-SFO market as well.

To/from the west coast it's also shorter via the Pacific than via Europe. Not a huge difference but elapsed time via Europe would probably be longer than on other carriers via their Pacific hubs and thus not as competitive. Examples:

BOM-PVG-SFO 8052 nm
BOM-BRU-SFO 8525 nm
BOM-SFO nonstop 7305 nm


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6321 times:

Is this the first non-stop regularly scheduled California-Brussels service since People Express from SFO or Citybird OAK and LAX flights?

User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6288 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
To/from the west coast it's also shorter via the Pacific than via Europe. Not a huge difference but elapsed time via Europe would probably be longer than on other carriers via their Pacific hubs and thus not as competitive. Examples:

BOM-PVG-SFO 8052 nm
BOM-BRU-SFO 8525 nm
BOM-SFO nonstop 7305 nm

Kingfisher has stated that it plans to offer only non-stop flights to NA. In that case Kingfisher's BOM-SFO--when offered-- will be about 5 hours shorter duration than Jet's BOM-PVG-SFO.


User currently offlineToxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6246 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
Jet to connect LAX, and IAD via Brussels in Feb. 2008.

No one's said a word about this around the office. I will have to ask about it tomorrow...


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 6152 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 13):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
To/from the west coast it's also shorter via the Pacific than via Europe. Not a huge difference but elapsed time via Europe would probably be longer than on other carriers via their Pacific hubs and thus not as competitive. Examples:

BOM-PVG-SFO 8052 nm
BOM-BRU-SFO 8525 nm

Wouldn't prevailing West winds make SFO-BRU-BOM-PVG-SFO the quickest round trip?


User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 6097 times:

Quoting Toxtethogrady (Reply 14):
Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
Jet to connect LAX, and IAD via Brussels in Feb. 2008.

No one's said a word about this around the office. I will have to ask about it tomorrow...

We will be eagerly awaiting the news, do let us know  Smile

Quoting PNQIAD (Reply 10):
Excellent news...... If I had not booked tix for my Dec. trip - I would have been quite tempted to postpone the journey a bit

I am planning a trip in april, i think i will go with 9W, lets see  Smile

Quoting PNQIAD (Reply 10):
It's also a shame 9W beats AI in starting untapped US destination with a lot of potential for an Indian carrier.

I have said many times before and will say it again-they have no strategy for their routes, someone needs to make the management sit down and discuss routes before putting the new planes on the NYC runs.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25372 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 6078 times:

Quoting Comorin (Reply 15):
Wouldn't prevailing West winds make SFO-BRU-BOM-PVG-SFO the quickest round trip?

Agree, for points where eastbound and westbound mileage is roughly equal, an eastbound round-the-world routing would generally be the fastest due to the most usual prevailing winds.


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 6070 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 12):
Is this the first non-stop regularly scheduled California-Brussels service since People Express from SFO or Citybird OAK and LAX flights?

Not a all, now defunct Belgian carrier, VG Airlines had several LAX-BRU runs a week (3 or so years ago) using A332s...what colorful jet and too bad they're no longer around.

But lookin' forward to 9W 77W svc here (LAX) and trying them out! Did Air India...and they'd better get their act together STAT!!! with 9W movin' in with all new equip. and probably more frequencies-


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[Edited 2007-10-31 19:35:31]


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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6035 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 2):
just realised that the new airport at HYD will not be ready until April 2008

Actually that might not be such a constraint, as I don't think the current Begumpet airport (HYD) is slot constrained at the midnight hours that 9W will want.



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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2379 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5980 times:

So, is this the current forecast for Jet's schedules?

AMD-LHR -- A330-200 (3x weekly)
ATQ-LHR -- A330-200
BOM-LHR -- 777-300ER (2x daily)
DEL-LHR -- 777-300ER
BOM-PVG-SFO -- 777-300ER
(India)-BRU 5x daily -- 3x 777-300ER, 2x A330-200
BRU-LAX -- 777-300ER
BRU-IAD -- A330-200
BRU-JFK -- 777-300ER
BRU-EWR -- 777-300ER
BRU-YYZ -- A330-200


User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5960 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 20):
BRU-LAX -- 777-300ER

Will be looking fwd to seeing this 77W at LAX!

Question: which terminal would they use? TBIT, or would they go with T2?

Charles


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2392 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5663 times:
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Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 20):
So, is this the current forecast for Jet's schedules?

AMD-LHR -- A330-200 (3x weekly)
ATQ-LHR -- A330-200
BOM-LHR -- 777-300ER (2x daily)
DEL-LHR -- 777-300ER

Are those segments already effective as of today ?



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User currently offlineBuck3y3nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5466 times:

GREAT news for 9W and the IAD community. I'm sure the people living in the Fairfax, Manassas area will appreciate another choice of carrier to fly home with  Smile There is a flux of indian population in that area and kudos to 9W for tapping this potential.

AI seems like its really lagging behind in this race and 9W is fast growing. I won't be surprised to see that in the near future, when people think of going to India, 9W will strike their mind first rather than AI.

Kudos to 9W again  Smile


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5434 times:

Quoting Buck3y3nut (Reply 23):
I'm sure the people living in the Fairfax, Manassas area will appreciate another choice of carrier to fly home with There is a flux of indian population in that area and kudos to 9W for tapping this potential.

Between Virginia and Maryland, the Indian-American population is around 100,000 as per 2000 Census. The total Indian population in USA is projected to double by 2010 which would take the DC area Indian American population to about 200,000.


25 Post contains images AirbusBoeing : Amritsar to LA....balle balle
26 Cloud4000 : What no flights to ORD, IAH, or DFW! These cities have bigger Indian populations than IAD, I believe.
27 LAXDESI : The top five states with Indian population as per 2000 census are: California - 314,819 New York - 251,724 New Jersey - 169,180 Illinois - 124,723 Te
28 Comorin : Looking at the 2000 data from a market perspective: CA is two markets - SoCal and Bay Area - approx 160,000 per LAX and SFO. NY+NJ is one market so 4
29 LAXDESI : I lived in NJ for four years around 1996-2000, and hardly took any flights to India out of JFK. I suppose SFO is a stronger business market. Texas ma
30 Aarbee : There was some talk of discontinuing this in Jan 08.
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