SAA201 From South Africa, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 17732 times:
What will probably the last ever flight operated by an SAA B747 will touch down this afternoon.
SA055, operated by ZS-SAK, from Luanda is scheduled to land at 18h25, bringing to an end 36 years of continuous B747 service with SAA (well, 35years, 360 days to be exact!).
Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 6311 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 17650 times:
Sad, but memorable, day for South African aviation. I flew only once on their 747s and, as airline experiences go, the service was great and crew were terrific, if a little inconvenient, having to fly around "the bulge".
And I loved the swanlike paintwork around the flight deck:
CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 17402 times:
Quoting QF744ER (Reply 6): Forgot ZS-SAK l/n 1162 and delivered 06/98 so also another newish bird as far a B744 pax birds go.
So that's SAK, SAY, SAZ, SBK and SBS that are looking for new homes.
I dont think they'll be sat around for too long. They have been as well looked after as any 747 on the planet - they are in lovely condition mechanically - kudos to SA Tech who are some of the best in the business.
I would think VS would look at one or more to bolster the LGW/MAN leisure stuff. Oasis Hong Kong are desperate for 744s and I would think LY and PK would be interested as well. Perhaps SV as well? TG may look at the two newest birds as they are more than ten years newer than TG's oldest 744s which are looking rather tired and long in the tooth now.
They may also go for conversion - a lot of that happening now.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
Flymad From South Africa, joined Jun 2006, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 17133 times:
Quoting Avek00 (Reply 9): Doubtful - SAA has already indicated that the LHR routes lose money, and the increased competition on the route means that additional capacity would likely prove futile.
IIRC the LHR route was only losing money because of the B744 and this was only because the lease costs on the aircraft were so high. I do not think it had much to do with operating costs as much as the actual cost of leasing the aircraft. IIRC there was a huge annual increase built into the lease agreement that could not or would not be re-negotiated so the only solution was to ground the aircraft. I stand to be corrected, but i think this was the jist of the reasoning behind it.
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 11491 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 17026 times:
Quoting QF744ER (Reply 6): So that's SAK, SAY, SAZ, SBK and SBS that are looking for new homes.
I guess the RR-powered aircraft will go to Transaero as well, I doubt they´ll stay with a single 744. As for the others, they´ll be picked up soon. 744s are still in hot demand, mainly as conversion objects nowadays. Currently there is not a single 744 in longer-term storage anymore.
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 11491 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 16918 times:
I´ve very good memories with SAAs 747, flying First Class on ZS-SAV (now a CX freighter) a few years ago.
Does it mean, no First Class on SAA aircraft anymore? The A346s have an excellent Businessclass though, which, for nighflights, even make a better bed than the First Class.
Legoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3317 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16655 times:
Excuse my ignorance but what will happen to the SAA 747 pilots? Will they be trained to fly the A340's or will they move airline, or perhaps even retire? Sad to see the 747's leave their fleet however SAA is left in good hands with the A340's.
Anything on future possible SAA orders? Such as the A330, 787 and A350?
Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
Acelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 876 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16632 times:
Where is SAA getting the A340's from to cover all the LHR flights? Have they rehashed some
schedules to get better use of them?
Last time I was at LHR (April 07) think there where 3 SAA 747-400's in...
from the Island with sun and great photo's.. Why not visit Lanzarote
Quoting Richie72 (Reply 2): I didnt realise that they would be gone so soon
Me neither, quite surprised to hear this.
Quoting QF744ER (Reply 5): Personally I think it's a very odd decision of SAA management to withdraw the B747's from the fleet.
Yep, not so much an odd decision as there are alternatives on the market as we know, but i would say perhaps more unusual because they have already enjoyed having them on their fleet. So they become a world passenger carrier not having a 747 when so many competitors have, seems surprising that they have ultimately called it a day.
There isnt really a dark side to the moon, as a matter of fact its all dark!